I must admit, I find myself hating them less each week and don't mind watching them play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
It may have something to do with the players I have in my dream team at work - but still.
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I must admit, I find myself hating them less each week and don't mind watching them play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
It may have something to do with the players I have in my dream team at work - but still.
Charles Watts:
Not the first time I've heard it. Was in conversation with someone very well connected to the German camp a couple of months ago and he was convinced Low would be manager next season.
Just need to get Wenger out the door, any semi competent manager will do right now. And if hes not good enough we move on to the next one.
Does Ozil now get the no10 off from jack?
Looks like we signed a truck driverQuote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
SAS:bow:
Was Ozil signing dependent upon Alexis leaving?
Are we trying to push Jack out? A pay cut and then take his shirt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
The writings on the well for our lad jack. I think no 13 is available. Quite the fit for a chap with the luck of a Doughnut a a cop convention
I suppose any day now he'll be made captain and that will be that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Nah the Arsenal website is selling Ozil #11 shirts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
To try to clear stock no doubt. Come on - wouldn't that be class[ic] Arsenal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Spot on, they're discounting them to get rid of them, you have to pay £1 more for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Arsene Wenger has offered no assurances to Alexandre Lacazette that he will keep his place in the Arsenal side following the arrival of Pierre Emerick-Aubameyang.
:lol: so no planning went into the transfer and now we have an unbalanced squad :lol:
:lol: #OneArseneWenger
No one should have such assurances. You should have to earn and retain your place.
But this being Arsenal....
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Did Laca ask for any assurances, or has Arsene offered them up as desert for the constant subbings and sticking him on a desert island up top? Relentless. Hard not to think he doesn't like the guy much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
We can't forget how often Wenger subbed Lacazette to really break his stride and confidence. Everything Wenger used to be good at is now the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42916936
Why does he talk about these things as if they are in anyway pertinent to him
We have failed to win more games than we’ve won in the league this season
Money has spoilt the game but it’s had no bearing on his catalogue of failures
Anything to take the spotlight off his failure to compete with millions at his disposal.
I doubt he arranged a press conference just to talk about this.
He's basically right although given that we are one of the "haves" it doesn't excuse our failure to compete.
Yes, I yearn for the good the 90s when it was a choice between Man Utd and Man Utd for the league title. ;)Quote:
Wenger said it was clear that "unpredictability has gone down".
Ha. Well, strangely the billionaires barging in have actually meant the English league is more competitive than most.
But that is pretty much the only way of achieving success in the game these days.
What Leicester did was remarkable but they don't have the money to sustain success.
The game has been screwed for years.
:faint:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Always complaining and making excuses, he's got it hard though getting his millions a year whilst his team are not performing and never competing for the top prizes, ironic that he doesn't even mention managers and players getting paid too much ruining the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ
Personally I prefer the model of those other clubs, at least they're not fleecing the fans, our net spend is shocking, that's not being self sustaining, it's being greedy and not willing to put any of your own money in, a billionaire owns us just like every other club but ours is happy to take and give nothing back, at least the billionaires at City, Chelsea, PSG put their own money in.
The guy has all the excuses under the sun, as MO said anything to take the spotlight off his failures, from Arsenals point of view alone Wenger is destroying football, pound for pound worst manager in football.
I don’t like either modelQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I think financial doping has stratified football more than it ever was
The only clubs that can break into the European elite are the ones owned by oligarchs
Look at the domination of the champions league of clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona
The fact that he makes it an excuse for turning us into an easy to beat Joke is a joke in itself , but it doesn’t make what he says untrue. Maybe we are crying for the moon but football has lost its lustre.
There’s always been dominant teams, United dominated English football in the 90s. But what we have currently seems to be a matter of Chelsea and City passing the title between each other.
The Champions League has always been dominated by Real and Barca. It's always been a competition for the biggest clubs. A major factor to why we're seeing the two Spanish giants feature so often comes back to the Italian and Dutch leagues falling apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ
Also, the Messi and Ronaldo factor is a strong one. These two freaks of football have gone on longer than most. Great players of the past often wind down once they've won everything...these two just keep on going.
I don’t disagree but I think it’s become increasingly stratified as a result of money.
In addition look at the Bundesliga, whilst Bayern were the dominant team no team has ever won the Bundesliga more than three times in a row in the post war period but Bayern are nailed on to win six times in a row.
No they aren’t an oligarch owned club but essentially what you have now is that unless you’re a historically giant club or you’re owned by a foreign potentate you have no chance.
Yes it’s always been hard, but now it’s almost completely a closed shop.
Taken from Facebook:
Ornstein talked to Arseblog, here are the important points:
-Alexis Sanchez fought with Koscielny in training. He was a problem in the dressing room, even though Arsene Wenger denied it. As Wenger would never criticize his players in public. Alexis wasn't very popular in the squad, kept to himself. Also, Alexis was never given a contract extension after the summer window as his relationship with his teammates wasn't good, which is very different from Ozil's case.
-Alexis did love his time at Arsenal.
-Mino Raiola is the one who gave United and Arsenal the idea about Mkhitaryan/Alexis swap
-Sven Mislintat pushed the Aubameyang deal. Gazdisis, Sven and Hussy getting photographed put a lot of pressure on them as Arsenal fans knew they were in Germany for Auba so to return to England without him would anger the fans.
-BVB got annoyed by how low the first offers were.
-Giroud was not pressing for any move. He was happy at Arsenal. But he was needed to make the Aubameyang transfer happen.
-Arsene Wenger has never been totally convinced by Alexandre Lacazette. Arsenal were looking at both him and Auba in summer, but Lacazette was cheaper so the board pushed the Lacazette deal.
-Ornstein has heard Arsenal are looking to offer Elneny a new contract.
-It really takes a horrendus result in a game (like 8-2 vs United) to make Arsenal active in the transfer market.
-Mustafi was offered to WBA in a swap deal for Evans last summer.
-Arsene Wengers power is being diluted. Gazidis preparing for the post-Wenger era. But his power being diluted is not a bad thing for Wenger, as thats how it was when David Dein was here.
We should have screwed Chelsea to haedes. That interview was interesting though.....
Especially the part about us not actually offering Sanchez a contract he was actually happy with....
In addition Ornstein reiterated that after the Aubemeyang deal that the club stated there was no significant money for transfers remaining, although he speculates that a low ball offer came in for Evans on the 31st after we sold Giroud because the sale bolstered our coffers.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
So where the fuck is all the money?
We have about 180million in cash reserve but no business is ever going to blow its entire cash reserveQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
Plus unless we clear the wage bill first, that money has to be used towards wages as well
Plus there is the signing on fee and agents fees....the actual transfer fee to buy a player out of his contract is often the tip of an iceberg.
I would say if we clear out more of the shit in the summer off the wage bill and maybe get some transfer fees for some of them, we can spend most of that amount and still strengthen the squad quite a bit.
There are some very large back pockets at Arsenal, you should be able to find the money in those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
Thing is other clubs spend much more than us, I'd beleive this is not for the fact we've been trimming the wage bill and our net spend has been very low for years, not being funny but TV money has gone through the roof so we make ample to cover salaries, fees etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ
The cash reserves don't pay the wages, the income does and we're always in profit so that's money over and above, fees, wages etc.
Bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ
We spent fuck all for 10 years.
We've been breaking even since.
Where the fuck is all the money?
In offloading Sanchez, Walcott, Coquelin, Ox, Giroud, Debuchy off the wage bill that’s cleared about 25 million a year off the wage bill.
But Ozils new contract, Aubemeyang and Mkhitaryan have easily replaced that.
Between 2013 and 2017, we spent near on 300m on transfer fees and made very little in the way backQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
So to answer that question. Wenger has spunked a good deal of it up the wall.
Little in the way back :lol:
Unless you’ve found a sexual innuendo in there I’m not sure what the joke isQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
Between Van Persie in 2012 and Ox in 2017 can you name me a player that we got more than 15 million in cash for?