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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Godin I wouldn’t have minded, wage demands would have been an issue though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Hummels is finished, we would have been stuck with another veteran player on huge wages who isn’t performing.
Im shocked Dortmund have bought him, Bayern must be laughing their heads off at them in the boardroom!
As MO said, if we were selling to sign the same level of player fine, but to sell a guy who scores a hatful and then sign a player who is nowhere near that level and doesn't score a lot is madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
This club has done stranger things though, so don't put it past them, we've sold to our rivals numerous times, something other big clubs never seem to do.
Pretty much, but the 72 million was just pulled out of the air and then picked up by a few, he never said he wanted that, he said he didn't know how much he was worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Selling to a rival would be crazy, if we did sell we'd need a lot of money and somebody top notch to lined up to replace him, not Zaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
I'm sure Arsenal would never do anything so stupid...Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
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Sounds like Lukaku is off to Inter Milan.
Meanwhile shady Gazidis has negotiated for Milan to sit out the Europa as ‘punishment’ freeing them up to push for a top four spot without distraction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Sky are reporting that we are expected to make an offer for Zaha.
10m and a pack of Monster Munch?
Ornstein said this yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Palace will want £80m, we can't afford it.
I wish we'd just leave this one and not waste our time or our entire budget on him. He's not that good and I doubt we can pay the money anyway, Man U have a 25% sell on clause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We do seem to go after these deals we have little chance of completing (and shouldn't be completing in the 1st place anyway). What's happened to Tierney, is that deal dead in the water now?
Ziyech is available for 25 million, he'd be a good bet.
Weirdly, I agree with Zim :unsure:.
Zaha’s good but he’s not *that* good and scoring goals isn’t our issue.
They also reported Noncebele was visiting the Spuds training ground and the signing for £65m was imminent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
It’s very quiet everywhere so all they’ve got at the moment is making stuff up.
Zaha has no end product. Apart from 'winning' penalties, but refs have clocked onto him now.
He's not even going to be cheap. For the kind of money Palace want we can surely do better than him?
Would be happy to see Nelson get a crack in the team. That money should be invested in a CB and CM.
Zaha - no thanks. If we were talking about a 21yo then you might get value, but £80m for a player who’s going to be 27 in November is a luxury we can’t afford (and the same kind of poor recruitment that’s got us into our current mess). Better, younger, cheaper players out there...
The price they'd want makes it a complete non starter, so almost don't know why we are wasting anytime with this one.
Reports saying the 40 mill budget includes wages!
He will probably get more pens and score more with the ridiculousness of how VAR is being used and handball rules though....
Not sure why there’s so much talk about it - there’s barely any substance to the reports aside from Ornstein saying Zaha would like to play for us. It’s not a transfer that’s going to happen.
It just shows how surprisjgly quiet the market is the PL so far that this is being talked about so much.
Although saying that, I reckon the Noncebele deal will still happen.
I wonder if Real would swap Ozil for Bale? :d
Bale is reportedly on 600k euros. Wtf?. Plus we would have to increase our medical staff by at least 1 doctor and 2 physios. Will a recently married Ozil be a bit lighter on his feet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Seems like we want Zaha or Balde, why are we after this rubbish?
Yeah, that’s a given, although I’m pretty sure the club’s definition of a ‘budget’ is very different to the way the media usually paint it, and is more about how much we can afford to add to our *annual* operating costs, rather than simply subtracting agreed transfer fees from a starting pot. (If we signed a player for 30m on a 5yr contract worth 70k/wk, for example, then it would only account for about 9.6m of that 40m increase in operating costs, i.e. 6m in repayments every year over the next 5 years + 3.6m/yr in wages).Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
It’s still a pretty measly sum for a club of our size to be working with, and we certainly won’t be shopping at the 80-100m+ end of the market, but it’s not quite as bad as the rags and the click-bait sites would like us to believe either.
We know there’s been confirmed bids for Martinelli (6m), Tierney (15m) and Saliba (22m) - if you chuck in wages on top of the fees then we’re already miles past that 40m figure (and two of those figures are just opening bids), so something clearly doesn’t add up there.
Which is why this whole net spend argument does my head in. It’s Championship Manager accounting that bears no real relation to the way money is accounted for by clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
Makes for good headlines, though, and gets a reaction, which I guess is the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
I reckon we can probably get 3-4 deals done at the 20-30m / 70k-a-wk mark (with maybe a nominal deal or two like Martinelli chucked in for good measure). Getting it done might involve a bit of a juggling act, as anything we bid for player A will affect what we can bid for player B (or what we can offer existing player C on a contract extension, etc), but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if several deals suddenly all drop at the same time, once we find that balance.
I’m not expecting anything stellar here - pretty much more Guendouzi- or Torreira-like signings, i.e. young players of immense potential who are already operating at first-team level, or smart buys in the 22-23 year old age bracket (plus a good shot of internal promotions). That’s absolutely fine with me though - as long as everyone is a) good enough, b) a proper fit for a role that the team needs, and c) on sensible wages then I’ll be happy with our business. What I’m desperate to steer clear of is players like Carrasco and Rabiot - that mix of sky-high wages and questionable attitude feels like everything we should be avoiding like the plague right now!
As expected, Spurs have apparently agreed a £55m plus add on fee (which seems to be the ‘in thing’ now) for that Bele player.
He might get to visit the training ground this time.
Not read it yet, but here are Swiss Ramble's thoughts on our current financial situation:
https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/stat...83489103945728
We are apparently in talks with Yacine Brahimi. According to Sky.
A 29 year old freebie.
Not a pot to piss in. :haha:
Sounds like he’s a direct winger though so might be of some use.
Tony Daley was a direct winger, just might mean he runs fast in a straight line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Bumped into a colleague, fellow Gooner, who said that he's heard we are about to release some very poor financial results - a combination of a loss of CL money and poor transfer/contract management, I imagine.
Oh. Just saw this! That's what my colleague was mentioning.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
It's very lucid and informative and utterly painful.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
So Saliba who may be loaned back and if he isn't may be far from ready, then Martinelli who is basically for the academy and then a left back with promise but a little too much hype.
Looking great so far to get back into the CL.
It makes a mockery of everything this club has preached itself to be over the past decade, self-sustaining means nothing when you're pissing money away and seeing no return. It also sounds like Gazidis was an utter failure of a CEO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unai Tea
On the pitch decline swiftly followed by off the pitch decline.
We’ve spent 458 million over the past 6 years and it has been terribly wasted. No club bar City and Utd (who just offload it onto debt) can piss away that much and not have it affect them.
Anyway, we are where we are now and whatever manager we have in place has to make the best of it.
https://youtu.be/TmBgrfHnSOk
Are we touring Hong Kong during pre-season? Need to up our game a bit on the protesting side.
If Kroenke doesn't put in some of his own money then Arsenal will not win anything and its very unlikely they will get into the CL, by any means, ever again.
Anybody who doesn't want Kroenke to put in his own money is not a real Arsenal fan.
I don't think we'll ever win a game again. Time to close the club.
Do you honestly think that Arsenal will win a trophy or get into the CL next season ?
Last season we got to the Europa League Final and finished a couple of points outside the top 4. We weren’t a million miles away from those thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
What makes you think we will be far away next year?
People keep creaming themselves about Spurs. They finished a point above us, they’re not all that