Winter Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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Originally Posted by Özim

He's just signed a new deal, what an odd character.

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"We give you big bucks now, you don't kick up a fuss in January and we won't stand in your way in the summer if we finish lower than 4th"
*headbutts Ayre*

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Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann

Thoroughly agree.

Stopgap loanee is the most realistic expectation, or someone like Berbatov.

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Yep, that's pretty much how I see it at the moment. I would love a world class striker but the chances of it happening in January are extremely slim.

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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice

That is one way to look at it and they were established goal scorers in La Liga...... and yet none of that lot (or at least not all) were THE top scorer in Spain. Costa is the leading scorer with Cronaldo.

Would Costa represent a risk? Absolutely he does. Pretty much any player you sign out of Spain barring Cronaldo or Messi or Bale are going to be a significant risk. Aguero and Torres were both risks themselves. You might argue for different reasons to Costa, but the fact is you take a risk on any player for any substantial fee 90% of the time. And you are wrong, Costa has 2 international caps for Brazil.

When you aren't taking a risk, or at least not so much of one, that is precisely when you are paying 50 million plus for a player, hence the transfers of Cavani, Falcao and others this summer gone.

Ozil himself, is a player who has divided opinion amongst our fans to an extent himself at 42.5 million. Was that not a risk?

Calling the leading scorer in Spain, who Spain are trying to nationalise 'wasting' 30 million on a gamble is a bit of a stretch. Using the word 'wasting' on a gamble in the context you used it, implies you are under no doubt that he will be a dud, which I find curious too.....

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Ok, so I probably didn't explain myself properly regarding being capped at International Level. My argument regarding a player being capped at International Level was more geared towards the player being established at that level, or at least to the extent of playing more than earning 2 caps.

Sure every player purchase is a risk, but when spending upwards of 30million I personally feel a player has to have shown his true worth over a period of time across every level, E.G league, european & international level.

30million is a hell of a lot of money for a club like Arsenal to be spending money on an unproven talent, it's not like we can write it off in the summer and go splurge again, we are not Chelsea or Man City.

Sure Ozil was a risk as said above like every player purchase, but Ozil is a PROVEN world class performer, he has done it on the big stage (world cup, cl, bundesliga, la liga etc), he has done it over a sustained period of time. he is established quality.

Spain can nationalise whoever they like, it doesn't cost them a dime and gives them extra options upfront which in fact is a position they are not blessed with talent.

Point taken on me using the word "wasting", "spending" is more the correct term. I personally would not feel that comfortable with us "spending" 30 million on him just yet.

If we wait for him to prove himself at every level his price could double and he'd be out of our price range. What's more is that Real, Barca, Bayern etc are likely to join in on the hunt and there's no chance of him choosing us over them. I wouldn't fancy our chances over Chelsea and City either who can offer him insane wages.

Of course it's a gamble, you have to at some level. I'd rather see us take a chance on a potentially world class player than buy two safe £15m bargains.

YouTube ain't the most reliable of places for scouting...:lol:....but I'm underwhelmed and say 'nay'.

He looks very unpolished. The strikes aren't clean and he doesn't look like the sort of striker that's going to make a huge difference to us. I'd have to watch him in full but I haven't seen a goal that I can't see Giroud, Theo, Pod or even Bendy scoring from.

What about his overhead kick against Getafe? :lol:

Giroud try as he might, is unlikely to get a wondergoal.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost of Xmas Past

What about his overhead kick against Getafe? :lol:

Giroud try as he might, is unlikely to get a wondergoal.

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I haven't seen that and you watch more La Liga than me but is be that much of a step up beyond what we have? A overhead kick takes skill but also some luck. Sanago scored a great overhead kick in the summer. Can't really judge players on that sort of strike unless it's consistent.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost of Xmas Past

What about his overhead kick against Getafe? :lol:

Giroud try as he might, is unlikely to get a wondergoal.

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I've watched him a fair amount and he's more of a battering ram type player than a player with finesse. He's about strength and determination more than anything else.

Just seen that strike. Fantastic goal but I haven't seen anything thing to suggest he's super clinical and will punish half chances. You'd probably know. Better than Higuian?

I wouldn't say he's better than Higuain who is a more natural finisher and has better technique. He's a powerful hard working type of striker.