Ay, but rather that than manure, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
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Ay, but rather that than manure, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Yeah bit if Cesc goes, and Nasri goes, and all we buy is Gervinho, I might be loosening my bowels with a fahl before heading to Arsene's front door.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
the problem though is that the chap has got only a year left on his contract which it appears he does not want to renew (and i don't think it's for the sake of wages).
if united are the only idiots willing to fork out 20mil or any thing close to that sum for him we have no choice whatsoever. Should he be sold to barca,milan etc for 5mil?
The issue was letting his contract run down in the first place; selling him to the highest bidder now is a mere insult to an already morbid injury that's been sustained.
Swap deal for the duchman tbh (Wesley)Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
You sit there bitching and moaning about us acting on financial grounds rather than footballing grounds and then suggest selling one of our best players to the Mancs purely on the basis that no-one else will pay us the same money for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by budesonide
read my post again buddy! take your time this time around :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
:shrug: Doesn't seem that ambiguous to me.Quote:
if united are the only idiots willing to fork out 20mil or any thing close to that sum for him we have no choice whatsoever
I pretty much agree with the rest of your post, that part just didn't seem to chime with what I remember reading from you before.
Whichever way we look at it we're pretty screwed with the Nasri situation.
:sulk:
The situation with him is worse than that of Flamini, Nasri with a long term contract IMHO would fetch in excess of 25million in the current market.
We lose him and we've lost a very important player in the team who will not be immediately replaced like for like. :sulk:
if you agree with the context within which you extracted that statement, then what is your issue with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
we have already fucked up with the nasri situation; the best that can be done now is sell him for as much money as we can and re-invest the money back in the squad.
I don't have to agree with the club's idiotic policies on the whole to see that that is the best we can make of a pretty dumb situation in which such policies have gotten us into in the first place.
I agree that we maybe should have been more pro-active last summer to give him an improved contract but just because we have let Nasri's contract run down we shouldn't sell him to the Manc purely because they're offering the most money, that was what you were saying, right? If not, then fair enough I've grabbed the wrong end of the stick but it sounded like you were wanting us to put the financial wellbeing of the club ahead of the footballing side of it, strange given you're so outspoken about the club doing things exactly that way.
I'm less concerned about Cesc and Nasri leaving than I am if we don't buy some solid backbone players. If we lose those two but get a decent CB (or two) and some solid driving players in the middle, I think we will be better off. It's not the skill factor that is killing us, it is the tailing off in the last thrid of the season and no-one on the pitch seeming to give enough of a toss to drive themselves and the others forward.
We drew at Newcastle not because their players have more skill than ours - no way is that true - but what counted was the will to push hard and push again, to keep at it till the final whistle. The same reason why spuds have embarrassed us sometimes in recent seasons - like the 4-4 a couple of years back. That will to win is what is missing.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...e-i-play-anzhiQuote:
Anzhi Makhachkala midfielder Odil Ahmedov has claimed Arsenal scouts are watching him at every game.
The Uzbekistan international, who is on loan from Uzbek League club Pakhtakor Tashkent, has reportedly been on the radar of a number of European clubs since his eye-catching form at this year’s AFC Asian Cup.
The player has confirmed there is interest from Gunners manager Arsene Wenger, and says it would be a success for Uzbek football if a move were to materialise.
“It is true that Arsenal are interested in me. Now I am watched by the English team’s scouts. They are watching me in every game,” Ahmedov said to RIA Novosti.
“If I move to Arsenal, it will be a success not only for me, but for the whole Uzbek football.”
The 23-year-old has made 38 appearances for his country, scoring six goals in the process.
His performances were key to the country’s fourth-placed finish in the 2011 AFC Asian Cup – their highest ever placing in the tournament – and he was named Uzbekistan Player of the Year in 2009.
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racistQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
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Maybe we should go for the winner of Uzbekistan Player of the Year 2010 instead?
I have never suggested that -- let's clear that up first. I have asserted that there should be a balance in the club's approach to running the club. And that the austerity and so-called 'self-sustainble model' nonsense is impractical,pretty daft and lacks any real-world foresight -- and there is a balance to be had. And I have not seen any post on here by anyone suggesting that we splash cash like there is no tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
On the issue of nasri: selling him to the highest bidder regardless who they are and re-investing the money in the squad is the sensible option if he doesn't want to be here. That satisfies both financial and football sensibilities considering the situation we are in. I believe that is a balanced view and not the 'one or the other' shi*te that is so often characteristic of this board.
Meanwhile we find no takers for our dross. If this summer doesn't improve I fear I may be arrested and banned from the club following the action I feel I would take.
And no, there isn't any balance. Your either rich or your not. It's already clear that the divide between us and those ahead of us is wider than ever. Were totally fucked if FFP is abused. In the meantime teams are attempting to use there advantages to produce lasting effects.
Im sure Milan and Madrid are jus looking at dumping Pirlo and Ronaldo to fit Denilson in.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
The Denilson situation makes me laugh. End of season he or his agent come out with the `im a winner/champion im wanted by top team in Europe` (dont remember exactly) now its `i will be staying at Arsenal`. Thats because you are sodding shite you cretinous sideways passing non tracking back mong. What a friggin knobber.
(im not a Denilson fan btw)
For all those who feel Clichy is easily replaceable, please read:
http://www.footballfancast.com/2011/...og_item_129623
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Originally Posted by alexander
Fair enough, I believe balance is the way to go so I can't argue with that but selling one of our best players to a team that is ostensibly our rivals by far outweighs any potential gain we could get from the 20m imo. I guess I couldn't see any possible gain for the club in terms of football so assumed you were just being a hypocrite; I mistook you for one of the crazies, apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by budesonide
There was a blog on 7amkickoff defending Clichy a while back as well, http://www.7amkickoff.com/page/3/ worth a read.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Apparently Cahills move has been called off due to wage demands according to twitter.
Also
http://t.co/QYjibfu
7m is a bit shit if we are flogging him to City.
Should make him sign an extension so we can cash in properly.
7m is not good considering the player and the clubs involved
Won't be happy if true
The price doesn't surprise me entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironing
Gibbs will be Clichy's replacement as I don't think we'll be able to get a credible replacement for a decent price (in Arsene's eyes).
Gibbs is AW perfect replacement anyway, can't defend, always injured...perfect fit really.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Wouldnt say perfect but close to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
For it to be perfect, Gibbs would have needed to be bought from France and be of African descent
According to twitter, Lille and arsenal cant agree a fee for Gervinho, neither can we for or Alverez.
He is of African descentQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
What the fuck is this club doing?Quote:
The departure to Arsenal, Gervinho is currently still a player of the LOSC. If negotiations are still ongoing, Michel Seydoux, the president Lille, indicates that nothing is done on this issue:
"We know that the player wants to experience the Premier League. It's an open secret. The discussions are open. But in the face, they do not seem too eager. We. We will see over time. But honestly, you can rest easy this weekend. "
All humans are of African decent. :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironing
Negotiating, probably. When you want to buy something, you don't start by rushing in your knees offering everything you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Quelle surprise rodney :ilt:Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
FFS, that's all we need. We're content with paying substandard junk like Denilson and Bendtner a generous wage, but when it comes to a player who would substantially improve the squad and help rectify some of the glaring flaws in the team, we're unwilling to go the extra mile to get the player we need.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Absolutely pathetic.
penny pinching again are we arsene?
even for relatively cheap players and unwanted players like Alvarez and Gervinho, this is a joke
Nah, it's not smart, it's not clever. To have any chance with the fixtures WE HAVE BEFORE THE TRANSFER WINDOW CLOSES. We need to have all our targets signed and settled before preseason. Were probably thinking that because they're free next year, we probably have the upperhand... I guess we can write off next season and another bunch of stars then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney
Aside from the fact that we do not have any independent verification that this is the problem, the question is not whether the club pays fringe players too much but how much was Cahill asking for? How far apart we they? Was he asking for 110,000 a week? Fabregas levels? Was he asking for van Persie levels?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
I can see this summer being a repeat of January 2009, with us trying to get the price down as much as possible, hoping that the other side will eventually give in and accept a transfer fee significantly lower than their initial estimate. The problem with this tactic is that there is a huge risk of it failing, and us running out of time and unable to sign the players we want.
Our excessively parsimonious approach is going to prove to be our undoing, no doubt about it.