Yeah he's a quality player but he's been out of sorts with us to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
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Yeah he's a quality player but he's been out of sorts with us to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Yeah we did and yes we started well but we didn't score our chances and noone really knows how it would have ended had we had 11 men, the fact is Chesney made a mistake and unfortunately he got sent off (some deem it harsh others think it was a bit reckless).Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It's all very good starting well etc but if you don't score when you get chances you're not going to win, we had the opportunities to go ahead but didn't take them, this more than anything highlights the lack of quality up front.
We competed to an extent, but I think Bayern felt the tie was won and didn't overly extent themselves, after equalising had we been at their level we'd have turned the screw and put them under pressure, don't really think we ever threatened a comeback.
No shame in it but we're below the level of the best sides IMO, that's why we need a few more top quality signings in the summer.
Ox is brilliant no question, however you can't discount Robben's talent, yes he does dive a lot (a lot of players do) however if you look at what he's done in his career and his performances in big games you can't argue about his ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I can remember him when he first came to Chelsea and use to beat 4-5 men at a time before lashing home a shot, Van Basten also rated him and RVP as the biggest young talents in Holland when they were young.
Like him or loathe him you can't deny he's talented and a matchwinner.
Ben Johnson was an Olympic gold medallist until the sporting body that takes cheating seriously threw him out in disgrace. Unfortunately the football authorities, the media and (I see) some fans condone cheating and the authorities have made no moves to throw out the cheats. Look at how it's stacked. A goalie comes out and brushes against a striker, down goes the striker, red card and ban for the goalie, penalty for the cheat. A triple punishment. If the ref decides not to give it then he is at liberty to ignore the cheating and more often than not there is no sanction for the cheat. You can't get a bigger endorsement for cheating than that.
There are huge rewards to be gained for cheating, at almost no cost. The ref won't punish you, the authorities won't punish you, the media has to literally see it happen time and time again right under their noses before they'll mention it - unless it is Gerrard, Rooney or Chimpy in which case they resort to ridiculous excuses and apologies on the cheat's behalf.
And Robben is far and away the biggest cheat in the game. Nobody else comes anywhere close. So do I have to acknowledge anything about the cunt beyond this glaring fact? Actually no. Somebody who cheats on this scale deserves no leeway. It is not valid to say (as you are) that okay, he is a huge cheat but he is a good player. What is that supposed to mean, that we brush his cheating under the carpet?
Anyway, hopefully he'll shatter his leg and it will end his career. That way nobody will have to worry about his cheating any more.
10 men/11 men....I'm not sure it would have made a difference. Just looking at the stats over both legs. Not one player managed make over 30 passes in the first leg with 10 men. It was the same for the 2nd leg. Not a single player completed over 30 passes.
I think we got it wrong playing Ox in the middle. With that sort of game we'd have to look to counter from the flanks and exploit the space out wide. Oh well. I didn't see us getting past Bayern this year either way.
Shit first leg against Milan
Shit first leg against Bayern
Shit first leg against Bayern.
Good improvement that.
Next you'll be saying there is some sort of pattern...Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
What are the odds we make that a nice even shit hattrick against Bayern next season?. We are well known for not learning the lessons of previous years. Heck! Ollie the Loverboy may well be our lead striker again next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Shit post that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
when we had 11 v 11 we did match Bayern in both legs to a certain extent. I can't think of very many clear cut chances for them last night, nor can i from the first leg before the penalty incident. While they are clearly the better team, if the ref hadn't bottled sending of boetang in the first leg before the penalty (which he should have done) then the result could have been very different. in both legs the team did well, there is no shame in losing to a side as good as Bayern, but we gave it a good go and there is a slight sense of what might have happened had the ref not bottled that red card.
as we said, we were never going to win the competition but we leave with our pride intact and the boys put in two very good performances. On to the cup now.