Match Reaction - 0-2 chelski

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Then where are the performances to back that up, NQ? Where?

He's not setting the world on fire for the German's either and their fans have quickly turned on him.

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No they haven't quickly turned on him - that was media bullshit.

He's put in plenty of decent performances, two in the last few weeks when played centrally. Plenty more before that but this media hype has stuck and now the myth is cited as fact.

But he hasn't had as much influence on games as he ought to have had, that's true enough. Being stuck wide hasn't helped. He's the ultimate luxury player, the guy who adds the icing to the cake if everything else is set up properly around him (like at Madrid).

But you;re claiming he's garbage and not up to it - plainly that's bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Also, if the guy cost £4m instead of £40 odd, you'd be ripping into him like you do with the other non-performers.

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How do you know that?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Doubtful. Wenger will have to get with the program whether he likes it or not. Now the money is in there's no excuse for the results not arriving.

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You really think they'll sack him? No chance

FUcking hate losing to these cunts

Fuck sake

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

You really think they'll sack him? No chance

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No, he'll be quietly pushed if he can't move the team on any further - even with funds. Won't even be "by mutual consent", they'll allow him to walk with some grace I would think. He might not want to go but Arsenal are on the gravy train ride now, cash coming in from all angles. We'll have to have some sort of results on the pitch to keep the train on the rails.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

How do you know that?

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Because I've seen the amount you talk about Monreal and other lesser players without making excuses for them.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Because I've seen the amount you talk about Monreal and other lesser players without making excuses for them.

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What other players?

Monreal and Santos were the last two I've really laid into (ignoring Sanogo as he's not a player). Both are turds. I'll lay into any player who is a turd, regardless of fee.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Because I've seen the amount you talk about Monreal and other lesser players without making excuses for them.

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I'd have Monreal over Ozil any day. Ozil is on par with Denilson and Santos for me. Offers absolutely nothing and in many cases, he is a huge liability.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

No they haven't quickly turned on him - that was media bullshit.

He's put in plenty of decent performances, two in the last few weeks when played centrally. Plenty more before that but this media hype has stuck and now the myth is cited as fact.

But he hasn't had as much influence on games as he ought to have had, that's true enough. Being stuck wide hasn't helped. He's the ultimate luxury player, the guy who adds the icing to the cake if everything else is set up properly around him (like at Madrid).

But you;re claiming he's garbage and not up to it - plainly that's bullshit.

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Believe what you want on the German fan thing. I won't debate that.

Decent performances aren't great performances and let's not even get into performances against top opposition even when played in his best position.

Yes, am saying he's garbage because that's how he's playing. If he's up to the task, he'll prove me wrong. But how long does he need to get his act together?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

What other players?

Monreal and Santos were the last two I've really laid into (ignoring Sanogo as he's not a player). Both are turds. I'll lay into any player who is a turd, regardless of fee.

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Sure.