Season's Progress

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Originally Posted by Letters to Santa

That's fine, but plenty of people facepalm at my cheery optimism as if that's a bad thing.



I think that's probably right and I'm not exactly doing cartwheels about our performances but results so far have been fine. I'm just hoping they start clicking again, we really shouldn't be this dependant on Carzola, we've got enough good players.

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Because people want rid of Wenger, they love this club and they are frustrated and frankly bored shitless by the football and the near predictability of our seasonal trajectory.

They don't see reasons to be cheerful, because they are sick of watching tripe getting the minimal results from sub par performances, a no frills airline might get you to where your going but it's a mode of transport and what's the point of being a fan of an entertainment format which you are deriving no entertainment from.

I'd love for this club to win major honours, but also frankly I want rid of Wenger now come what may. I don't feel any personal animus to him the way others do (and that's there choice) but I could do without watching my team play and constantly shaking my head or sighing in frustration....where is the enjoyment there?.

And as I made the point it's not because Wenger is a blithering incompetent, no he's the very model of efficient conservative consistency but his consistency is only capable of taking us so far and his stubborness, unwillingness to adapt quick enough to the modern game and what appears to be a lack of both innovation and inspiration that he puts into his teams it's just turgid.

Chelsea is the only game this season which I really got a lot of pleasure out of watching, granted Chelsea were poor but we gave them no chance to be anything else and really with 21 games played this season I dont think it's much to ask to enjoy watching more than one of those games.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

The sites dead. Whose whining? We've managed to squeeze 8 pages out of the cup loss thread. People are switching off from Arsenal. It's deja vu.

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I rarely post now because what is there left to say about Arsenal?

For the first time since I've moved to London in 1991 I've not gone to a single match and have no wish to do so.

I've kept my silver membership in the hope that things will improve some time in the future.

But it won't be this season.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Because people want rid of Wenger, they love this club and they are frustrated and frankly bored shitless by the football and the near predictability of our seasonal trajectory.

They don't see reasons to be cheerful, because they are sick of watching tripe getting the minimal results from sub par performances, a no frills airline might get you to where your going but it's a mode of transport and what's the point of being a fan of an entertainment format which you are deriving no entertainment from.

I'd love for this club to win major honours, but also frankly I want rid of Wenger now come what may. I don't feel any personal animus to him the way others do (and that's there choice) but I could do without watching my team play and constantly shaking my head or sighing in frustration....where is the enjoyment there?.

And as I made the point it's not because Wenger is a blithering incompetent, no he's the very model of efficient conservative consistency but his consistency is only capable of taking us so far and his stubborness, unwillingness to adapt quick enough to the modern game and what appears to be a lack of both innovation and inspiration that he puts into his teams it's just turgid.

Chelsea is the only game this season which I really got a lot of pleasure out of watching, granted Chelsea were poor but we gave them no chance to be anything else and really with 21 games played this season I dont think it's much to ask to enjoy watching more than one of those games.

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Even in that Chelsea game It was a typical 2nd half. Cruising in the first half, we reverted to type and did not press our advantage in the 2nd, typical Wenger as if we were so surprised at how well we played, we didnt want to risk ballsing it up by playing as we did 1st half. You can be sure if the tables were turned, Chelsea would have put 5 or 7 past us.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I'm not the one conflating results and performances, I think counter attacks, pace and pressing is actually better to watch than fannying about on the ball and constant short passes.

It seems mystifying to me that people forget what a counter-attacking team Arsenal were at it's best under Wenger. No we weren't defensive but what we were adept at is maybe defending a corner and then thirty seconds later having the ball in the opposition net...we were great at it and it worked.

Wherever we won the ball back on the pitch we'd drive forward ratherf than tippety-tappety (i repeat i hated watching Spain do it and i hate even more watching us with far less technical ability do it)

Spurs been dreadful to watch in Europe, but in games like City at home and even for spells in the Chelsea game they have more purpose and dynamism in their passing and overlapping than we have shown in any game.

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Praising the Spuds got me banned when I was Ashburton 2006! Ban him! Bloody favouritism!

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Originally Posted by Chippy

Praising the Spuds got me banned when I was Ashburton 2006!

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lol no it didn't.

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Originally Posted by Bauble Loblaw

I rarely post now because what is there left to say about Arsenal?

For the first time since I've moved to London in 1991 I've not gone to a single match and have no wish to do so.

I've kept my silver membership in the hope that things will improve some time in the future.

But it won't be this season.

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There isn't much to say that has't already been said. Your opening post sun's it up. It's same the pattern. It's not just here that's dead, I hardly talk about Arsenal with family or friends these days. We've all lost interest.

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Originally Posted by Chippy

Praising the Spuds got me banned when I was Ashburton 2006! Ban him! Bloody favouritism!

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They'd only be doing me a favour :haha:

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

There isn't much to say that has't already been said. Your opening post sun's it up. It's same the pattern. It's not just here that's dead, I hardly talk about Arsenal with family or friends these days. We've all lost interest.

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Im not sure if it Arsenals fault, or if Ive just grown up and have different interests/priorities. Im 36 now, supported them since I started going about 8 (1988) Dad who is 70 has supported them for 60 years. We used to love going, went to 12-14 games a season, it was quite a part of our life. Today I went over to see me folks and I brought Arsenal up. All my dad said was why "why did Wenger change up the team so much for the Southampton game? We should try to win everything. Same old stuff boy, November, we are out of EFL cup, 4th in the league, come second in the CL group satge and will be knocked out in the next round. Oh and why do we have so many injuries. Its shit." And that was it. Its a shame, but we do seem to go through EXACTLY the same stuff each year.

I will always invest something of myself in Arsenal, but its not much these days.

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Originally Posted by alexander

Im not sure if it Arsenals fault, or if Ive just grown up and have different interests/priorities. Im 36 now, supported them since I started going about 8 (1988) Dad who is 70 has supported them for 60 years. We used to love going, went to 12-14 games a season, it was quite a part of our life. Today I went over to see me folks and I brought Arsenal up. All my dad said was why "why did Wenger change up the team so much for the Southampton game? We should try to win everything. Same old stuff boy, November, we are out of EFL cup, 4th in the league, come second in the CL group satge and will be knocked out in the next round. Oh and why do we have so many injuries. Its shit." And that was it. Its a shame, but we do seem to go through EXACTLY the same stuff each year.

I will always invest something of myself in Arsenal, but its not much these days.

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Ask your dad to have a word with Letters would you?

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Originally Posted by Chippy

Praising the Spuds got me banned when I was Ashburton 2006! Ban him! Bloody favouritism!

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Nope. It got you banned for being a spud.

Funny, I did smell spud on you in your new guise.

Fucking massive co-incidence.

Lollerz. At least you have.....nothing to gloat about.