You know things have hit a new low when even a loss to West brom does not result in a match reaction thread more than 5 pages! :lol:
I hope we lose all our remaining games. Only way that thick c*** is going to be fired. :pray:
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You know things have hit a new low when even a loss to West brom does not result in a match reaction thread more than 5 pages! :lol:
I hope we lose all our remaining games. Only way that thick c*** is going to be fired. :pray:
He won't be fired regardless of results, the board want him to stay as it makes their lives a lot easier. Saves them having to lift a finger.
The only hope is that the atmosphere becomes so poisonous he does a u turn and thinks fuck it, can't face another 2 years if this. He's a stubborn old git though so I won't be holding my breath.
I'm starting to think we have more hope of Stan and Ivan pulling the plug on Wenger's career here. I'm hoping their silence and lack of statements is sign of hesitation to fully back the manager. I doubt it but that's the last hope. Says something when you're hoping for complete vultures to take a clinical and objective look at this situation and see it's bad for business. From a business perspective, they must see no CL football along with fans threatening boycotts or just losing interest in 'brand Arsenal' will spell the death of their bonus money. But maybe not. Sounds like they're just rolling with things.
I called them and asked. They told me they hadn't realised there was anything going on - but now they'll, "get right on that".Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
As much as I loathe both of them I can kind of understand why Stan is silent, he's been quite clear in that he has no interest in getting involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Ivan should be way more proactive though, where on earth is he? He literally has gone into hiding!
Imagine you were a chief executive and your company was about to unload a massive turd sandwich on its customers, cowardly as it is you'd go into hiding.
Yeah I know we are fans and not customers, I think the club would treat us better if we were just customers and likely to take our business elsewhere.
I have my own suspicions with Ivan. I don’t know where he stands with Wenger at the moment and I’ve had my doubt about Ivan being Wenger’s biggest supporter. I’ve always suspected some tension between the pair. Ivan is aware of the criticism, in the past, he’s spoken to the bloggers, Arsenal Fan TV and spoken at the AGM meetings to try and make things more clear. His silence throughout this period makes me even more suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Silent Stan – I can only hope he’s learned from the LA Rams/Fisher situation and decides not to renew Wenger’s contract to save himself the embarrassment of having to sack him :lol: fresh into the season. From what I heard of the Rams situation, attendance dropping at a new stadium and the outpour of criticism and mockery from the media forced Stan’s hand. Why he decided to offer Fisher a new contract in the midst of this, I have no idea, but it at least shows his hand can be forced. Maybe he’ll pay attention now that we may go without CL football and the fans are pissed. A big maybe!
Ivan Gazidis seems to me essentially powerless to do his job.
That if he tried to take any action regards to Wenger, Wenger would just bypass him
We know that he brought in Shad Forsythe and Wim Joncker without Wengers blessing. And it's likely Wenger has not bothered to utilise them and has stuck within his own comfort zone.
I wonder if Wenger does sign on, Gazidis will play the long game or he will just leave. The latter wouldn't surprise me
The papers often report Wenger is the only one at the club with footballing knowledge, I genuinely don't think that's true though....Gazidis was part of the management structure for the MLS
Whatever their motivations, it's outrageous how the club has been dumped into a state of limbo at the business end of the season. Wenger is shockingly culpable for this with his bullshit secrets and winks as if this is some trivial joke. Who the fuck does the guy think he is? Arsene Wenger?
Oh, wait...
The world revolves around him. The world waits on him. He fucking loves it, doesn't he? As the shitball stinks the place out and the team slides down the league and out of contention. This last few weeks alone is a sacking offence. Forget about the decade of under delivery and broken promises. His hijacking of this situation and the resulting damage is negligence on a scale that warrants action from his bosses.
And what about those bosses? I don't think it's at all reasonable for Silent Stan to be silent in the face of this. He's got a responsibility to the shareholders at least. Where's Usmanov? Why isn't he, at least, complaining about the uncertainty and the effect it is having on his investment?
The only thing that makes sense here is they have all had an agreed outcome stitched up for some time now. There's no real question of Wenger leaving and there never was. That can be the only explanation for the almost total lack of activity from the board and the shareholders. And this idea Wenger has told Pulis and not Kroenke what his intentions are, pure bullshit.
What we have here is the board and it's usual bungling. The 2 year deal has been on the table for months, they want him to sign it, he's agreed to sign it and between them they've been cooking up a plan to make the announcement at the least offensive opportunity. Trouble is, Wenger's such a shit manager these days he hasn't been able to give them that opportunity. So the board has said, your problem Arsene, deal with it, and Wenger is left doing his nod and wink routine, trying to string it out as far as possible to prevent nasty scenes that could distract sponsors and other money interests.
I guess they have calculated the fake uncertainty makes better headlines than the stadium erupting in protest. And they seem to have cajoled the media into their way of thinking too, with the nicely coordinated 'respect' campaign in support of poor old, victimised Wenger. "He's still a great manager! He's still a great manager!", just don't look at the results, just take our word for it.
Ultimately all involved have made themselves look like clowns, such is their desire to protect the money interests as compared to their longstanding lack of ambition on the pitch.
At the end of the day, the football will speak louder than anyone of them can bear. We are a shit team badly managed and without motivation. Even with the best of wills Ramsey, Walcott, Giroud and Xhaka are a motley crue of incapables. Without Sanchez we are truly abysmal. If Sanchez is out I can see us losing 2/3rds of all our remaining games. Not even almighty Wenger could survive us ending behind West Brom in the league