Match Reaction vs Everton (away).

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Originally Posted by Vieira

If Wenger was in charge of liverpool they'd finish 10th. If klopp was here we'd win the league.

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Can't argue with scientific "facts" like that :good:

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Originally Posted by Özim

Give it a rest will you, Everton are absolute rubbish this season, everyone is beating them, if you think this is some sort of proof we're not average you're sadly deluded.

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You are correct, for once. It isn't. How we did the last 3 seasons is proof of that :good:

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

You're putting spite and politics ahead of football and what's needed for a performance. It boils down to how much more bullshit performances you can stomach from the midfield.

It's a catch 22. Why should the club play him if he hasn't signed a contract? Because Wenger should live by what he preaches. Wenger says a player should be committed regardless of the contract situation. It works both ways. For this one last season we need to put our best foot forward.

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I agree and I think based on yesterday's performances from them Wenger should take the hit and keep both of them until the summer and then lose them both on a free.

Make no mistake, without those two performing at the level they did yesterday we are a very average side, Iwobi and Welbeck are no replacements for these guys, if we want to replace them properly then it's going to take big money, no "projects" or "internal solutions".

I accept that this performance was against a woeful Everton team but Sanchez and to a lesser extent Ozil have proved what they are capable of when they up their game.

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Originally Posted by Letters

You are correct, for once. It isn't. How we did the last 3 seasons is proof of that :good:

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Quite the opposite, we've been awful in the last 3 seasons, so it doesn't prove that at all.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Quite the opposite, we've been awful in the last 3 seasons, so it doesn't prove that at all.

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3rd and the FA Cup
2nd
5th and the FA Cup.

Average :bow:
Awful manager :bow:

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Originally Posted by Letters

Average :bow:
Awful manager :bow:

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What you fail to add in is any context, in none of those seasons have we been anywhere near the title, in addition other teams imploding were more of a factor than our great performances for us to end up in those positions.

So you're spot on with the comment about our mediocrity.

There doesn't have to be any context. In terms of the PL we have not been average, if you understand what average actually means.
Over the course of a season you pretty much end up where you deserve. The season we finished 2nd was because of Spurs' amusing capitulation. So fine, let's say we really should have finished 3rd. That still isn't average.

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Originally Posted by Letters

There doesn't have to be any context. In terms of the PL we have not been average, if you understand what average actually means.
Over the course of a season you pretty much end up where you deserve. The season we finished 2nd was because of Spurs' amusing capitulation. So fine, let's say we really should have finished 3rd. That still isn't average.

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We had a poor season that year Letters, you can dress it up anyway you like but we capitulated after Christmas. The fact that all of our traditional rivals were all in crisis made it even worse, we had little to no pressure that season and the league was there for the taking. We stuffed it big time, we were top going into the New Year too.

What made it worse was we were a distant 2nd, it was digusting.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Me too. Shame not all Arsenal "fans" did.

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Uh oh - check this out. Letters is doing a Wenger.

Well let me clear it up for you Arsene.

Great win, loved it. Entertaining, some great goals, enjoyed it.

Now get the fuck out of our club you cunt! Because 3 games a season that are worth the watch is not good enough for a club like Arsenal. Any "real" fan, as opposed to money-grubbing, seat-hugging cunt, would know that.

And why did you sub Lacazette?

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Originally Posted by selassie

We had a poor season that year Letters, you can dress it up anyway you like but we capitulated after Christmas. The fact that all of our traditional rivals were all in crisis made it even worse, we had little to no pressure that season and the league was there for the taking. We stuffed it big time, we were top going into the New Year too.

What made it worse was we were a distant 2nd, it was digusting.

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Agreed on all counts. But if we had an "average" squad and an "awful" manager, as Zim maintains, then we wouldn't be finishing anywhere near the top 4.