Match Reaction: Arsenal vs Man Utd - It Will Never Change While Wenger Haunts Us

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Also that’s a third of our games lost this season.

Really poor.

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Really expected

At least another 3 years with him :coffee: Let that sink in:lol:

12 home wins in a row :bow:

That's his new contract sorted :bow:

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

The point is the two defenders put us in the position of being two nil down. I think you can blame both those players and Wenger for that without any doubt. Why try and play out from the back when you’ve got a team that is pressing high and will punish sloppy errors.

The point on display is that you can’t fault the performance of most of the players after that point

Yes we’ve seen that kind of result a lot and it is totally tactically naive and I don’t believe anyone thought otherwise

Your contention however seems to be that United were under no pressure, which is just demonstrably false

No I don’t think it was luck, we took an injured defender off and stuck an attacking player on so we always left a risk of being caught on the break. But I don’t buy the idea that the finishing was consistently poor, my contention is simply that we lost ourselves the game in first ten minutes despite doing everything possible to remedy that afterwards

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I don't know what you're reading.

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yes we played well but at the end of the day we were horrible defensively and didn't put our chances away.

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so out of the title race well before Christmas and a decent performance in a game we lost really doesn't change anything.

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There isn't much to argue about in either of Zim's post.

We lost but put in a great performance..:ilt::doh::whistle:

The story of our Wenger existence. Put that along with narrowly defeating Barca and Bayern away after being tanked at home.

Tha sad part is that it's fans waxing lyrical about an abysmal loss and not even Wenger. There were absolutely no positives to take from that game. None whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Cech needs to be replaced now, not really good enough anymore, prone to errors and rarely makes those matchwinning saves, too easy to beat.

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Thats basically one of the differences between Wenger and the Elite coaches, Elite coaches are proactive Wenger is reactive. An Elite Manager identifies weaknesses in the team and resolves them ASAP, Wenger does nothing but amble on and make the required change often too late or in some cases just buys the wrong type of player. The Top 3 teams all have young elite keepers we have an ageing one who is in decline. None of this has anything to do with money either, Wenger has wasted millions on garbage over the past few seasons Lacazette aside.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Also that’s a third of our games lost this season.

Really poor.

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It’s going to be another car crash season, I think we’ll end up losing around 10 or 11 games. What do people expect when half of the team want to be somewhere else, they don’t care.

I wouldn’t be surprised if yesterday’s game is the start of some sort of collapse, Southampton away next, happy days, it’s our bogey ground.

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

I don't know what you're reading.





There isn't much to argue about in either of Zim's post.

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Zim's contention last night was that United were under no pressure, quoting his post is just so i'm replying directly to him

Plus i think the AFTV responses were largely about how naive we were defensively, and unlucky was in context of how many saves De Gea made

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Zim's contention last night was that United were under no pressure, quoting his post is just so i'm replying directly to him

Plus i think the AFTV responses were largely about how naive we were defensively, and unlucky was in context of how many saves De Gea made

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We were definitely the better team but our finishing and defending let us down, they were clinical on the counter although a lot of that was to do with our poor defending and lack of awareness.

We’ve seen this all before many times so it’s not like yesterday was some kind of freak of nature result/outcome.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

So before our resident apologist chimes in.

YES. Utd have a bigger wage bill and more money than us.

But you actually WATCHED the match, right?

So now you can see how little that actually means when two ULTRA RICH clubs go head to head.

You need a plan. A competent manager. A well drilled squad. A good mentality.

We have Wenger.

Don't listen to those Wenger apologist bullshit artists when they come knocking with their eternally crappy excuses.

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Careful the self proclaimed bullshit police will be back soon policing the forum for any 'extreme' anti Wenger views:lol:

On a side note is de gea one of the best goalkeepers the premier league has ever had? Top 5 surely