Pretty much, it was clear all they do is defend once they scored. They got Villa next week, watch how they will get a beating (then again maybe not)
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You're obsessed with brothers, brother.
Maybe we do Underestimate teams. Like NQ says lots of footballers don't care once they get paid. Don't matter which club they play for only diffrence is unlike out team there is lots of quality in other teams so they can get away with it.
Clubs like Newcastle etc have something to play for so they will go for it.
We always have a chance, its whether we take it is the issue. The comps are aim now, lets hope we take them seriously. But hey we can only take it game buy game. We need to beat reading in thr 4th round of the cc before we worry about winning it.
I just still can't belive their brothers lol still shocked.
the players 'lacked sharpness'? you get paid £7m a year, what the fuck are they doing in training?
Utter wank is the best way to describe that game/team/manager
Santos looked better than anyone of our attacking players going forward. How in the hell has this manage to score goals this season, with this bunch. Awful, predictable, clueless, and down right mediocre attacking football.
And nothing against the young man, but I seriously hope Wenger wises up and just get rid of Gibbs, Jenkinson, and Sagna. Fullbacks who don't have the ability to produce anything positive gong forward in today's football are just useless, it's not like fullbacks actually have to defend anymore.
Hallmark of a Wenger team. The team is unrecognisable and has been stripped to the bone, but that performance was just bad as some of the Arsenal teams that player 3-4 years ago. No point in moaning about players lacking character and effort. We've been through so many different players now, it all points towards the manager and our playing style.
Not really, were just going through what we went through last season, only we had a better start this season. lets remember even with RVC we got beat 8-2 at Old trafford.
So when we did so well at the start of the season it looked like we turned a corner well to me anyway and i was willing to give it till the end of jan to see where we were and who be brought in, then it would have been easier to see what as what.
We lack character, because of Wenger yes, not because he does not have any, because he did not buy any. Wenger is not mentally strong and this for me was shown along time ago. Us blowing everything after the CC final showed he is not a great motivator.
Lets be honest though. this is not the 1st shock result we have had or even before the last 7 years. We had them in the days of Hamiltion Ricard, or when Quinn used to play for sunderland and these team would beat us at home cause of stupid mistakes.
Lets not forget when Edu arrived how many times he messed up.
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Nah thats unfair Gibbs and Jenks have been awesome this season, personally i thought Santos was poor yesterday. But i don't see him as a LB anyways more as a LM. Sagna is the best RB in the league.
You may have a point and most times id say we are disadvantage from the start if you look at the team we put out and the subs which most of the time has not quality in it for when needed. However in games against teams like this you should not need that.
I want is to win every match we play and that will always be my mindset ahead of games. However, I feel the only escape from this rut will come from a failure to qualify for the ECL or the real prospect of doing so ahead of negotiation of commercial deals.
There will be no impetus on the money men to do anything while the cash rolls in.
It is depressing to think our hope of reform lies in how the Board views the potential value of assets and income
Wouldn't it be nice to have a Club run by those who want to win on the pitch instead of the balance sheet?
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We'll see. Ramsey is a nothing player since his injury. Worrying because at this age he should have been able to recover. Jack isn't going to step back in at the same level he was at when he picked up the injury. It will take time. And when you watched how blatantly Norwich took Ox out of the game yesterday you can be sure Jack will be getting plenty of the same. Cazorla got it too yesterday but he looks a tough little bastard. Still missing Vieria - a nasty bastard who can dish it out to teams who come hunting our playmakers. Song did some of that, Diaby for all his size is a girl's blouse, Frimpong looks like he couldn't blow his own hat off if his brains were made of dynamite. Maybe that bastard De Jong would have been a good signing after all.
Being at Arsenal is like any other day job. You're there because you need to pay your way in life, but if you work hard (at certain times) and catch the eye then an exciting company that's going places might come along and sign you up. You can't go over half a decade with zero ambition to win anything other than the share price sprint and expect there to be a culture of desire in the club. It starts at the top with those vile ****s who configured the club in such a way as to ensure their pay day. Now we have a new **** in charge who's setting us up for round two. Wenger seems to pride himself on being able to sustain mediocrity while shovelling cash as his paymasters, the players soon learn the score and take the money while they wait for a knock at the door. This is a limbo club and not in the dancing way. All about the money. Football doesn't even register here any more. Tip tap, tip tap, slllooooooooow, 99% possession, aren't we wonderful, just look at all those past glories we have to live on. We need Mourinho in here just to disrupt everything and cause a bad atmosphere. I'd rather have chaos than this self satisfied complacency. We have players that know they won't play but won't leave either. Chamakh. That's an incredible indictment of any sporting outfit and shows just how badly wrong the focus is.
I think a lot can be said from the fact that even the consistent 7/10 types (Arteta, Mertesacker) were terrible. You know things won't go well when that happens. Awful performance, one of the most listless of the Wenger era. Gnabry stuffed up a couple of times after coming on, but he did two things most others couldn't manage all night; a forward pass into space to create a chance (for Gervais), and the impression that he wasn't actually running through treacle. Really there was nothing more to be taken from it.
Just about right. But Mourinho wouldnt touch us with a bargepole. Can you imagine him having to listen to fat, stuck-up, bloated, red-faced Old Etonian toff Hill Wood telling him what a great club we are, and how happy the board have been over the last 8 years coming fourth each season and getting into the Champions League. Mouirnhou would shit himself laughing and walk out.
Didn't think Arteta was bad at all. Thought he fought well in a fairly violent encounter where space was a rare commodity. Same with Cazorla. But they had nothing to hit. The front three were invisible. Ox caused a fuss when he came on so Norwich quickly kicked him out of the game. It's tough fighting these half-football/ half-wrestling teams that populate the lower half of the table. You have to be up for it. Our lot plainly weren't apart from the couple I mentioned who seemed okay in the fight. Cazorla's corner taking, that will have to improve though.
Was it me or did Wenger not even seem pissed off when he was inteviewed on the box. Maybe he doesnt really give a toss anymore.
Anyone want a ticket for RPQ?
Letting RvC go to Utd has damaged this club in several major and fundamental ways. The message that sent won't be shaken off easily. You couple that with a string of false dawns and even a good run won't shake the doubts. The atmosphere around this club stinks. For the past 3-4 years anyone who has been paying attention could have predicted the outcome of each season in advance - same goes for this season. So it must eventually get difficult to muster enthusiasm for the inevitable.
In fact why not do this.
Whew! We got 4th. Thank fuck for that, thought we were going to be caught and we would have been if the season went two games longer. So then, does anyone think Cazorla will stay? He says he loves the club - I think (hope) he'll stay. Word is Messi is coming, don't think it will happen but you never know. Roll on 2014.
Wenger is delivering the goods so to speak. To make the club profit and achieve top 4 football. That's the reality. I mean when was the last time you heard anybody from within the club confidently speak about the club challenging for the title?
We've given up, we won't and can't compete with the "financially doped" clubs so instead of trying to do as much as we can to bridge the gap we sell them our best players.
If they don't care why should we?
We probably just need to forget about all that shit now and just watch the games for love of football and the entertainment it provides... oh shit, tip, tap, tip, tap, Chinese water torture, any second now he'll pass it forwards, any second now, any second now...
That's the rub of it though innit. It's not just one shit game.
It's happened too often, year after year. I can accept defeat. It's enevitable sometimes....I wasn't happy about Chelsea game, but I could just about stomach it...even though I thought we should have won the game (they were there for the taking IMO).
I can't take watching shit like we saw yesterday though. I'm still fuming at it. It was possibly in the top ten of the worst performances I've watched since I started supporting the team.
No desire. No quality. No thought.
We were a shambles at half time. The whole team should have been kicked up the arse. But we got 45 minutes of exactly the same...possibly worse.
Utterly disgusted with the lot of them.
You'll have married life to keep you calm soon.