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We need a different option to Giroud, not another tall striker lacking pace.
No thanks.
Then why even get another striker? We got Walcott if you want pace
We should buy fat Ronaldo
Theo's not good enough, or at least untested as a lone striker in our system. Wenger tried him there last season but moved him back on the wing in no time so he clearly isn't keen. He'd fare better if we played with two strikers but we aren't likely to change formation.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonasTC
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Originally Posted by milla
He's not like our CAMs. He's a fast, direct and a proven goalscorer. He'd be perfect for us on that left side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
I can't see him going for £30m though. That will be the starting point for a bidding war and considering we need to buy a CF too I can't see us getting him. It would be a kick in the teeth to see him go to one of the Manc teams or Chelsea.
Theo will soon find himself in no mans land with Arsenal. He's altered his game dramatically on the right side since last season where he's no longer trying to take on his wing back by dribbling past. He spends even less time with the ball at his feet now and just hangs off the should of defenders looking to be thread through.
That sort of game isn't helping his development and it's why he won't get a game up front either. Wenger doesn't like classic number 9 strikers in that central role and that's what he's playing as on the right. But playing in that area and in that way means he's not learning how to play and move in the box, what to do against bigger defenders and how to get around the height and strength difference or how to drop deep and link up with his team mates.
If we really have the money in the bank, we can afford to look for a winger that can stretch play, has pace, score goals, create for others as well as space for himself. As for strikers, we can do better than Giroud and look for a player that has that triple threat we're looking for. No need to have players that excel in one area but drastically lack in others. Theo needs to look at what's going on around him. He has the potential to be a polished number 9 that would have been useful 15-20 years ago! I think we're the only club that's going to play him in this unique role. He'd be screwed anywhere else. We're like a company that's made use of a windows 98 pc somehow in this modern era.
Eh? Because Theo's not a striker yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonasTC
Nor will he ever be. In 5 years time Theo will be playing for Villa or Sunderland, and be often referred to as the former England winger. Hell, he might not even make Englands squad for the next WC.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Or he could be collecting £200k/week tax free in Monaco. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Anythings possible. I'll get back to you in 5 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by milla
when his competition is Andros Townsend, Theo's seat is already booked on the flight to brazilQuote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Theo's never going to be a great, but as long as he stays fit and is playing in a vibrant Arsenal team, he'll score goals. And lots of them. One dimensional players are extremely useful. Especially if Theo hones his one dimension (finishing).
He's massive for our team right now, we're far too narrow , and he'd give us a much needed outlet on the wings if needed.
He's scored over 60 goals for us, with the majority of those coming from the wings and scored 21 last season. He's a big player for us.
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Originally Posted by Munchies
Exactly! I dont think he is a great player for us, but at the moment, he is exactly the type of player we need. We are getting too predictable and we need him, Ox and Pod to put in some pace in the team. We are too slow!
That's true but its partly because our team is stacked with tons of CAM's. We've got an unbalanced squad. Of course we miss Theo when we're resorting to use Ramsey and Wilshere on the wings!
Walcott had 21 goals and 19 assists last season, show me another Winger/Wide foward that did that last season on the highest level. People need to show some respect in here, he's an Arsenal player and he's a damn good one.
His numbers are phenomenal. No other Arsenal winger has scored more in a season. He works hard on his game but as said, I think we can get more out of him. If he keeps playing on that right side, he'll never get the due credit because he's playing an unorthodox role custom made for Arsenal. Half winger, half striker. I'll always maintain that he should be developed as a striker or played as an inverted winger. He's valuable to us now,but if we'd have bought Bernard, I'd worry about his future in football.
I would love to see Walcott play from left wing, he's scored a bunch of nice goals running down that side. With Özil in the middle and Cazorla on the right, we would see perfect through balls to him all day, which will probably happend anyway, no mather where he plays, but i just think he would benefit ALOT more, if he ran down left side. But maybe Wenger wants to convert the Ox into that role instead? All respect to Walcott, but i think Oxlade has a much higher potential than him, he's almost as fast as him, is stronger and got better technique, i could see him develop into a dangerous inside forward from the left side.
Oxlade has always been talked about as being a CM though, probably because of his athlete ball qualities. Do not forget the performance against Pirlo and Ambrosini.Quote:
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Woy. :haha:
You could say the same about Wilshere tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Moureen wants to get rid of Torres in January so he can buy falcao.
Worth a punt?
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He wouldn't even lend us Ba.
Maureen wouldnt even sell us a virus...Unless it was EbolaQuote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
We should tempt City to give us Dzeko.
Nah.
Similar to Giroud.
Dzeko IS similar to Dzeko.
I don't get Dzeko.
Whenever he starts a game he seems to be a bit of an oaf, but whenever he is needed as a sub he's brilliant.
I just don't see him changing our game dramatically, which is what we need from a second striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss
Can you let us have Borini, 22 years old italian International, or are you still pissed off at us over Vlad the impalerQuote:
Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss
I was of the opinion we needed a different kind of striker but it's evident that Giroud is possibly the reason our style of play is working at the moment. If we're going to play with a sea of ball playing midfielders we're going to need a focal point to it, so another tall striker would be ideal for consistency.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
I don't think it's Girouds's tallness that makes him excellent for our system, tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Is it his beautiful face and chiselled abs?
Well just his overall presence and work rate really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
I'm sure Wenget could fine tune Dzeko. I don't really think artificial environments like City is the best place for any player to hone their ability.
No, its his big dickQuote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
There's a picture of it doing the rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
It's...big.
doesn't he play for galatassaray (sp)Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Goetze was like 18 back then, tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
German players tend not to leave Bundesliga unless they get ridiculous money offer because they get paid very well in Germany.
Once upon a time on ahfc, Theo's numbers were passed off as merely the result of RvP's brilliance. His numbers subsequently improved the season after when the Skunk was no longer there any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonasTC
I think his lack of technical ability at times has meant many gooners are quicker to slight him in a football sense, even to the point where they marginalise what he does have going for him.
Part of the genius of Wenger is to recognise that players with natural attacking ability do not so much need coaching as their skills need honing. To put it differently, he is wary of formulating or overly contriving a method in which they can use their skills. Rather he sets an adaptable framework. The flip side of that is that Wenger is less likely to tell Cazorla/Ozil/another to play on the shoulder to stretch the game a little. He may say things that imply to the player that they should consider it but he won't necessarily expressly and explicitly state it to a player directly. That is why so many players under him feel 'liberated' imo.
In Theo's absence somebody needs to be trying to stretch the play by varying their own play and getting beyond the oppositions back line. Wenger likes Rosicky because he seems to have a natural knack for sensing when he should do as much, when to drop back, when to push on and when to look for a ball behind the lines. That is hard to coach. We have enough intelligent players on the field at any one time to make it work, but Theo's persistence and speed with stretching the play means a defence never gets a rest and the lines between the oppositions back line and midfield are wider for longer periods of time. That liberates others who need not worry so much about varying their own game. Que the on rushing midfield wizards we have in midfield. Give them an inch and they usually take a yard.
Djeko's ability is a little marginalised too because of his bit part of role, but he is a well rounded player in my view. In an ideal world the next forward through the door would offer something significantly different to Giroud, but I'd take two Giroud's over one + Bendtner....that's not to say that Djeko precisely the same player though.
He was 19 and his age was part of the reason he represented such a good acquisition. He was reasonably expected to improve for some considerable time at his age and as much as we hate to think about it, he would probably retain an incredible and increasing resale value in business terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84
At the time he was already a regular at this club and one of the best players in Germany and that was the reason why the wages he was on was made public at all. As a player and as an economist he represented the sort of deal Wenger looks to do and I am pretty sure Wenger was watching him closely, although he was a lot more hesitant shall we say about parting with the sort of money he would have cost.
We pay Podolski 100k and we signed him from Cologne, so yeah, we have to pay good players accordingly, but Goetze's scenario was quite a unique one at the time really.