Kim Kallstrom (official)

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Originally Posted by WMUG

Wenger's saying he only knew at 5pm on Friday. :shrug:

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I believe he said he knew about the injury before, but didn't know of the full extent until the medical.

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Originally Posted by WMUG

Wenger's saying he only knew at 5pm on Friday. :shrug:

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Didn't he say they had from 5pm to make the decision? Supposedly they got the word 2 days previously. Unless he's saying he pulled Kallstrom's name out of his arse at the last minute. Surely we did at least some cursory groundwork on this deal?

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Originally Posted by WMUG

Well we didn't know he was injured until he had the medical, by which time it was too late to go after anyone else. He was a last resort, and we were banking on him having a clean bill of health.

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Still not a good enough explanation, and doesn't explain why we were hunting around in the last few hours to sign an injured player we really didn't need, when we had the whole of January to get our shit in order.

As it stands, signing Kallstrom is the equivalent of using a chocolate teapot.

There is no excuse for this at all.

Add to that the fact that Kallstrom has hardly been a prolific player in the last.......er.......fuck knows!?!

Its utter madness.

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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist

even after Arsene's explanation of signing him knowing about the injury, it makes sense to me. not a player i would have myself signed but its clear he has been signed as cover for the title run in. makes sense. It did make me laugh though seeing people moan about signing a 31 one year old on twitter then the next tweet saying they can't wait to see Rosicky back on saturday who is 33 :lol:

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:haha: Ollie!

You do make me laugh sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist

even after Arsene's explanation of signing him knowing about the injury, it makes sense to me. not a player i would have myself signed but its clear he has been signed as cover for the title run in. makes sense. It did make me laugh though seeing people moan about signing a 31 one year old on twitter then the next tweet saying they can't wait to see Rosicky back on saturday who is 33 :lol:

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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist

even after Arsene's explanation of signing him knowing about the injury, it makes sense to me. not a player i would have myself signed but its clear he has been signed as cover for the title run in. makes sense. It did make me laugh though seeing people moan about signing a 31 one year old on twitter then the next tweet saying they can't wait to see Rosicky back on saturday who is 33 :lol:

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Yep, same people who said we should sign 31-year old Berbatov and his amazing 18/4 game/goal ratio :D I seriously think some people in here, only know Arsenal through football manager or smth, because they have absolut no form of realistic vision on arsenal or football in general. The logic is non-existent :D

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Originally Posted by JonasTC

Yep, same people who said we should sign 31-year old Berbatov and his amazing 18/4 game/goal ratio :D I seriously think some people in here, only know Arsenal through football manager or smth, because they have absolut no form of realistic vision on arsenal or football in general. The logic is non-existent :D

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Need a striker? So, buy a midfielder who is injured and has 3 goals in 30 appearance for a team playing in Russia. Logical much? Of course..

Intelligence is just becoming a very rare commodity these days. For some, AW could kill a kitten and do a mass massacre, he just cannot be wrong!

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

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Need a striker? So, buy a midfielder who is injured and has 3 goals in 30 appearance for a team playing in Russia. Logical much? Of course..

Intelligence is just becoming a very rare commodity these days. For some, AW could kill a kitten and do a mass massacre, he just cannot be wrong!

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End of January, have 2 of your 3 injuried midfielders, who was suppossed to come back, have setbacks in their recovery and are out for longer time, a 3rd one get 3 match suspension suddenly and last one just comming back from injury, going into a tough run? Check. But ofc we should get a striker instead! Fakeyank you're the football god, why do we have Wenger, when they could hire you? :D

Any quality strikers available in January transfer window? Nope. Hell even the silly money clubs couldnt get a striker, even tho' they wanted to. But hey, i guess its fun sitting on goonersweb saying "LOOOOL WENGER OUT, IN FOOTBALL MANAGER I JUST BOUGHT LIKE 5 STRIKERS NO PROBLEM".

But if you're such a football oracle, please tell me who we should have went out and signed instead? :)

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

For some, AW could kill a kitten and do a mass massacre, he just cannot be wrong!

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Or he could be top of the league, manager of the only team seriously competing with City and the Chavs and do no right. :whistle:

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Originally Posted by JonasTC

End of January, have 2 of your 3 injuried midfielders, who was suppossed to come back, have setbacks in their recovery and are out for longer time, a 3rd one get 3 match suspension suddenly and last one just comming back from injury, going into a tough run? Check. But ofc we should get a striker instead! Fakeyank you're the football god, why do we have Wenger, when they could hire you? :D

Any quality strikers available in January transfer window? Nope. Hell even the silly money clubs couldnt get a striker, even tho' they wanted to. But hey, i guess its fun sitting on goonersweb saying "LOOOOL WENGER OUT, IN FOOTBALL MANAGER I JUST BOUGHT LIKE 5 STRIKERS NO PROBLEM".

But if you're such a football oracle, please tell me who we should have went out and signed instead? :)

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Here is our midfield options- Arteta, Flamini, Rosicky, Ozil, Wilshere, Santi, Ramsey and if needed, we could use Ox, Zelalem and Frimpong. Ramsey out of that lot is out for the season.. that leaves us 6 players to play in 3 positions. Why on earth do we need another player? Let's say we do, why do we need a player who is for sure out for 6 weeks and doesnt help us in ANY way?
As for strikers... didnt Fulham sign a striker? Didnt 'money bags' Monaco get Berbatov? We needed a striker the most.. I am sure thats not debated. If Giroud is out, the back up names are atrocious! Heck, even bringing back Chamakh made more sense than getting a midfielder who has never played in england and most importantly, someone who IS injured! Might as well not have signed anyone than to wind up the fans! Kallstrom is on the level of Bischoff in terms of absolute garbage value signing.

And since you asked, who we couldve signed as striker for the short term- fulhams striker, berbatov, michu, eduardo, Vucinic or just ANY FIT striker. Sure, the names are not world class out there but they definitely make more sense than Kallstrom, an injured midfielder in his thirties playing in the Russian league. Agree?

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Originally Posted by Steve French

Or he could be top of the league, manager of the only team seriously competing with City and the Chavs and do no right. :whistle:

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Not saying he has done 'no right' but what he has done in the transfer window is criminal. I have said this many times, I hope I am wrong and we remain top after 38 games but history (last 8 years) suggest I will be right. This window was awfully similar to the time when we didnt get a GK in place of Aluminium or when Eduardo got injured. We were screaming out for players in obvious positions... Arsene did fuck all and we won fuck all. Its just a sense of deja vu.. I hope I'm wrong!

To even have the thought of having Giroud injured gives me the shivers, in terms of who will start... Oh dear Lord no! :pray:

Read on the BBC this morning that Spartak are going to continue paying his wages for six weeks. So, we're not wasting any money on an injured player yet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26000458

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

Here is our midfield options- Arteta, Flamini, Rosicky, Ozil, Wilshere, Santi, Ramsey and if needed, we could use Ox, Zelalem and Frimpong. Ramsey out of that lot is out for the season.. that leaves us 6 players to play in 3 positions. Why on earth do we need another player? Let's say we do, why do we need a player who is for sure out for 6 weeks and doesnt help us in ANY way?
As for strikers... didnt Fulham sign a striker? Didnt 'money bags' Monaco get Berbatov? We needed a striker the most.. I am sure thats not debated. If Giroud is out, the back up names are atrocious! Heck, even bringing back Chamakh made more sense than getting a midfielder who has never played in england and most importantly, someone who IS injured! Might as well not have signed anyone than to wind up the fans! Kallstrom is on the level of Bischoff in terms of absolute garbage value signing.

And since you asked, who we couldve signed as striker for the short term- fulhams striker, berbatov, michu, eduardo, Vucinic or just ANY FIT striker. Sure, the names are not world class out there but they definitely make more sense than Kallstrom, an injured midfielder in his thirties playing in the Russian league. Agree?

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Again with the logic. our #10 position has nothing to do with our 2 central midfield spots. For the 2 central midfield spots we have Arteta and Flamini who can cover the #6 spot and Ramsey/Wilshere who can cover the #8 spot, then Ox can do a job at the #8 spot, but its still a project, since he have never played there in his proffesional career, Rosicky can do a job at the #8 spot aswell, but certainly not for 90min. So with 3 of our 4 normal midfielders suddenly out for longer than expected in the end of January, it was the highest priority to get someone in who could cover both midfield positions, Wenger himself told us yesterday that all this happend super fast, so they had less than a day to find someone who could do a job, be cool with a 6 month loan deal and sit on the bench for most of that time. Kallström were probably the only one who fitted all those expections, when it turned out that he might be injuried, they were forced to take a gamble, since they had no time to get someone else in.

For strikers, there's probably a reason Fulham and West Ham were the only one after that guy. As much as you hate Bendtner, he's on par with or better than 3 out of those 4 you mention (same 3 being "old as fuck", the part you didnt like about Kallstrom) and Michu rather wants to play #10 role and he's injuried so that was not an option.

So please tell me again, who should we have signed instead? :)

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Originally Posted by saintnickle

Ollie i admire your optimism but even you cant believe what you have just posted.Would you as arsenal manager with over £50m at your disposal with the season as it stands and not won a trophy in 9 long years,sign an aging 31 year old on the last hour of a transfer window knowing that he was injured and only be available of 1 month at the end of a season??I thought not..This sort of move would be normally be asscotiated with a relegation threatened team without a pot to piss in ..Get real..

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Mate - I think that's a big disparaging of relegation threatened teams :lol:

Hear the sound of our transfer window http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPHDUaFXdaE

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

Not saying he has done 'no right' but what he has done in the transfer window is criminal. I have said this many times, I hope I am wrong and we remain top after 38 games but history (last 8 years) suggest I will be right. This window was awfully similar to the time when we didnt get a GK in place of Aluminium or when Eduardo got injured. We were screaming out for players in obvious positions... Arsene did fuck all and we won fuck all. Its just a sense of deja vu.. I hope I'm wrong!

To even have the thought of having Giroud injured gives me the shivers, in terms of who will start... Oh dear Lord no! :pray:

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It was a joke.

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Originally Posted by JonasTC

Again with the logic. our #10 position has nothing to do with our 2 central midfield spots. For the 2 central midfield spots we have Arteta and Flamini who can cover the #6 spot and Ramsey/Wilshere who can cover the #8 spot, then Ox can do a job at the #8 spot, but its still a project, since he have never played there in his proffesional career, Rosicky can do a job at the #8 spot aswell, but certainly not for 90min. So with 3 of our 4 normal midfielders suddenly out for longer than expected in the end of January, it was the highest priority to get someone in who could cover both midfield positions, Wenger himself told us yesterday that all this happend super fast, so they had less than a day to find someone who could do a job, be cool with a 6 month loan deal and sit on the bench for most of that time. Kallström were probably the only one who fitted all those expections, when it turned out that he might be injuried, they were forced to take a gamble, since they had no time to get someone else in.

For strikers, there's probably a reason Fulham and West Ham were the only one after that guy. As much as you hate Bendtner, he's on par with or better than 3 out of those 4 you mention (same 3 being "old as fuck", the part you didnt like about Kallstrom) and Michu rather wants to play #10 role and he's injuried so that was not an option.

So please tell me again, who should we have signed instead? :)

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The problem is that yet again we are being cheap ass and looking at cover for 6 months instead of adding a permanent quality player to the squad.

Kallstrom is neither.

I'm sure we could've picked up a capable striker if we put up the money. Everyone thinks it's impossible, but for £30m+ we could've got Costa or Martinez. Improbable is right but not impossible, money talks. However it's more than likely the case that it wouldn't fit in with Wengers plans of turning Draxler into RVP 2.

We must have known it would have been tough to sign him though and should have had a plan B as a back up (if need be loan option) striker to help up front where we are in a worse position than we are in midfield.

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Originally Posted by Mirror

But I must tell you, to describe Kallstrom as a panic buy is little bit disrespectful. Kallstrom has 108 caps for Sweden. He also has 78 pairs of shoes, 34 shirts and 15 coats. We have to be patient. I remain absolutely convinced Kallstrom will be ready by late February, in the middle of March, next April.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...7#.Uu96jj2KWSp

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Just burst out laughing in the middle of the office at that Syn! Everybody thinks I am crazy.:lol:

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Originally Posted by JonasTC

Again with the logic. our #10 position has nothing to do with our 2 central midfield spots. For the 2 central midfield spots we have Arteta and Flamini who can cover the #6 spot and Ramsey/Wilshere who can cover the #8 spot, then Ox can do a job at the #8 spot, but its still a project, since he have never played there in his proffesional career, Rosicky can do a job at the #8 spot aswell, but certainly not for 90min. So with 3 of our 4 normal midfielders suddenly out for longer than expected in the end of January, it was the highest priority to get someone in who could cover both midfield positions, Wenger himself told us yesterday that all this happend super fast, so they had less than a day to find someone who could do a job, be cool with a 6 month loan deal and sit on the bench for most of that time. Kallström were probably the only one who fitted all those expections, when it turned out that he might be injuried, they were forced to take a gamble, since they had no time to get someone else in.

For strikers, there's probably a reason Fulham and West Ham were the only one after that guy. As much as you hate Bendtner, he's on par with or better than 3 out of those 4 you mention (same 3 being "old as fuck", the part you didnt like about Kallstrom) and Michu rather wants to play #10 role and he's injuried so that was not an option.

So please tell me again, who should we have signed instead? :)

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Other than Arteta and Flamini, no other names I mentioned plays the traditional 6, 8 and 10 role in our team. All of them are equally capable, some better than the other. If it was about cover in Arteta and Flamini's position, why not go with someone who has played in England and we have in-house: Frimpong. I dont rate that guy much but surely he is a better bet than Kallstrom who has never played in England and who is past his best and may I add again- Injured!
Sure, things happened at the last minute but here are 2 things: He had the whole month to look at players plus time before the transfer window, why wait till the last moment? Again, if he is not going to offer anything in the short term (and his deal is short term), why even get him?

As for strikers, like I said, we needed a striker. Short term, Berbatov made more sense. As for W.ham and Fulham being interested... well West ham were the only ones interested in Tevez and Mascherano once... that does take away his stats and his form. As for you rating Bendtner, I really cannot argue with you on that, because what you just said is just not true! He is decent when he has game time but nowhere is near the quality of players like Vucinic, Berba etc. Heck, even Kevin Mirallas makes sense!