So let me get this right:
Cesc 31mil
Then we buy:
Gerbilo 14mil
Cahill 17mil
What the actual fuck.
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So let me get this right:
Cesc 31mil
Then we buy:
Gerbilo 14mil
Cahill 17mil
What the actual fuck.
Inshallah we get Thiago or Villa as part of any deal.
From the same article.
Yeah, thank god he's not had the opportunity to impair the Board's sterling performance over the past six years.Quote:
On her Twitter account, Lady Bracewell-Smith said: "No Dein. Root cause of all the troubles at AFC. Unable to work with other board members."
Villa wont come here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss
Thiago might come, do well and then pine for Barca and we have Cesc part 2 in a few years so no thanks.
£50m and Cesc is theirs.
I really don't think Barca are going to up their offer significantly, they have been quite stubborn and adamant over this. I think we will probably accept the 35m limit they put on him.
Hopefully this happens soon so we can get on with the rebuilding process.
Cesc. :wave:
I'd take £31m. Sell him before our position gets too weak, build the team around someone like Wilshere who actually wants to play for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13928823.stm
it realy is the laziest article ever to be honest, an invented source saying exactl what every body else has been saying for nearly 2 years :doh:
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Originally Posted by Ach
how and when?
Overmars, Petit, Henry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
£16m for Henry? Wtf? Wenger should have been sacked for that alone
£31m was a joke last season and it should still be a joke this season.
Even if we keep him for two years his value won't drop that much and might even increase with Barcelona needing a replacement for Xavi sooner rather than later.
Let's not forget this is the same club that spent roughly $94M on Ibrahimovic.
Yeah cos he has ripped shit up for them and NYC hasnt he, he was wank the last season and a half he was here and had sciatica which took his pace, perfect time to sell and a good price. Also We got £30mil+ for Overmars (knee) and Petit (back) AND i also notice you miss out the £13mil they had to pay us for Hleb, who couldnt get a game at Birmingham last season. In fact if anything we have given them the full meat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
If you are going to make such ridiculous declarations as least try and qualify them in an informed manner.
Not exactly. PHW has confirmed that there has been contact and there is no firm message of intent from the board. Last year we made it clear that he is not for sale. It's not the same this year and we're waiting for an improved bid. We may do something stupid like sell on the last day of the window and have no one lined up for a replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
Who cares what Henry done for them? That was after they bought him. Got f all to do with it. Fact is, he was one of the worlds best players when he was with us and we sold him for a pitiful £16m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
We dont live in the world of hindsight as you seem to do but if you want to play that game then so shall i. Henry was Barcas top scorer in his first season there and scored 30+ in his 2nd season when they won the treble
I think he'll go this summer for something between 35-40 million which is a pretty low fee given the absurd amounts the likes of Henderson & Carroll have been trading for.
This story has no legs left...he wants out, we know it, he knows it, Barca knows it.
has to be at least 40 million or Wenger can fuck right off
Anything over £30m for Fabregas wouldn't be horrendous, really. You will always have a few transfers in which the buying team pay over the odds but that doesn't set a precedent. We have never been in a strong position in negotiations because Cesc wants to go to Barca and Barca only. If it was a similar situation to Torres where he might be willing to go to any good team, then we could've got about £348579457m from Man City. Things change very quickly in football and his performances last season hardly qualifies him as a £15m player. Another year bad habits certainly brings down his price a fair bit. He is still an excellent player but I think it's necessary to change things dramatically now and replacing the captain and a key figure of a relatively unsuccessful spell for the club is at least an effort to make that change (even if it is a forced one).
its an article of "mights" and "mays" mate like all the shit this summer. of course we are preparing for an improved offer, they started obscenely low. And yes we "may" sell him and we "might" let him go for £35mil we also "may" sign Lionel Messi and "might" play the ladies team in the carling cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Shit journalism, shit broadcasting company
Might not be his call of course, Stan and Ivan might over rule himQuote:
Originally Posted by Fats
Torres was terrible for Liverpool but still went to Chelsea for £50m. Kaka went to Real Madrid for £50m half injured. Ronaldo wanted to go to Real Madrid the season before he had that record breaking season, had a bit of an off season for his standards but still went for £70m. We're being soft and we still hold the cards but some how Barca have pulled a Jedi mind trick.
I am surprised they havent offered Keita in the deal, he seems redundant there with Busquets and Mash in front of him and that Thigo kid coming through as well. Maybe we are after Maxwell to replace Clichy as well?
The BBC only puts credible stuff on it's site though, it's not really lazy...it's confirmation he's likely to go this summer and by the sounds of it not for the price we're really after.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
Anything that goes on the BBC site can be taken seriously, they don't post any old rubbish.
Its the first time to my knowledge anyone from our side has come out and said
It was all "Cesc wont be sold no matter what the price" before thatQuote:
Possibly yes, and if it's enough then I expect we'll have to sell."
Yeah we've heard this before, one minute the club say he's not for sale and then next he's off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Been happening for years.
Looks like Wenger has bent over for them againQuote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Any chance we can sell them Cesc and give them Wenger as well?
Exactly. The clubs stance isn't the same and the writing was on the wall when Wenger decided to leave him, Nasri and Clichy out during the final few weeks of the season. He wanted to see what we'd look like without them. I hope he's doing he's changed his mind about Nasri and Clichy now. We can't afford to lose three first team players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
If they offer £40m then we have to sell him.
He's given us good service and now wants to go home and join the best team of all time - you can't deny him that opportunity.
Cesc is worth more than £40m, he's worth £60m all day long. But we'll never get that for him as there's only one club he'll join and they're (quite rightly) reluctant to spend over £40m on a player we poached from them for peanuts.
How we got him has f all to do with his price now and we shouldnt sell for less than £45m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
And hes under contract with us for a few more years yet so we can deny him any move unless we get the money we want.
We wont do that though cos Wenger would never stand up against his players
apart from how arsenal were going to get assraped by the belgian authorities regarding financial irregularities with FS beveren that turned out not to exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
mihir bose is a cunt
If they are 'quite rightly' entitled to act like a bunch of douchebags and not meet our valuation, we are 'quite rightly' entitled to tell them to go to hell.
We don't owe Cesc damn all for his good service, we pay him wheelbarrows full of money each week.
i can see thiago being part of the deal, with the mancs wanting him too can just see AW trying to get him 1st. We should be calling more shirts in terms of players we want in return.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
henry was so shit for them for most of his first season that their brass said "whoever signed him deserves a slap."Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/7353306.stm
I get the impression that Tiago wants to have a crack at trying to break into Barca's first team before he considers any move away, especially one to a new country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I have heard that said as well. However, there have also been comments that his few chances in the first team are going to get even fewer with Fabregas there. He might not even get onto the subs bench for many games.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
However, do Arsenal really want a player who will be agitating for a move back to the team of his DNA in 3 years or so?
That is nowhere near as true as it used to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
The BBC's standards are pretty low these days.
That's the thing. Disregarding for a minute that Henry was getting older and would therefore be more likely to be injured, a player can be great in one team or league and less effective in another. It would be funny if we sold Cesc for 35M and then he turned into a damp squib -especially if our buys with the money turned up trumps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan B'stard
Apart from last summer when he told Fabregas he was staying and Barca to sod right off...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Every year we keep him our position gets weaker. If we kept him for another year and then ended up having to really sell him on the cheap or, worse, go on a free, everyone would be bleating about how we should have sold when we were in a strong position.
We should sell him this summer IMO, we've got enough in midfield without him and this is our last year in a strong enough position to get decent money.
And £35m is decent money for him IMO. If you disagree then fair enough, we'll agree to disagree.
That would be hilarious, doubly so if we won the league, triply if we won the CL by beating Barca.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney
TG, yeah if they get Fabregas then his time will be up, unless he's prepared to wait for Xavi to retire, even then he wouldn't be guaranteed a spot. My worry with getting Thiago would be that we would essentially have him on loan until he reached world class level then they would want him back, albeit for an inflated fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner
I think theres a difference between standing up to a player and doing what Wenger did last summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Standing up to Cesc would have meant telling him to STFU about Barca, tell him hes not being sold and get on with it here.
What Wenger did, tell Cesc to give it one more year and then we'll see
Cesc is still young. Has a few more years left on his contract. We can and should get more than £35m. Is he worth as much as Carroll? Like hell he is.
can see Arsenal not accepting 31mil unless they get a player worth at least a carrot thrown in!
however if a cash offer of 40mil comes along then I can see us biting........which may be the way we will be left to go, we can put up a fight but I don't think we have the weight the likes of Utd etc who could hold out on Ronaldo, we may just have to accept that to some we may be considered a feeder club the same way we look at the likes of Southhampton
40 mil along with money his departure frees up for salarywill pay for the names we have been most strongly with, Gervinho, Alvarez and now Cahill
we should have more left over for lets say Mata
couple that with the departure of some dead wood we could even add a few more
I dont think we can go into next season with a smaller squad than what we have already, which is what seems to be the case every new season (no figures to fall bck on, just seems like that......well the quality is definitely lower)