Match Reaction Bournemouth 0-2 Arsenal

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10-02-2016, 12:56 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Letters

Yeah, that's why Liverpool have been so successful in the last 20 years. Now they have Klopp they're Champions Elect.

They've won the CL and are trying to change things to be successful enough said really? Has Wenger managed any success in Europe?

Wenger's record in Europe is a disgrace to be honest and shows his limitations as a manager, he's had enough chances and yet all he's achieved is one solitary final in the CL and one in the UEFA cup, both that he lost.
10-02-2016, 01:10 PM
WMUG

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Originally Posted by Özim

When have we not been lucky against Barca?

:haha:

Fucking hell.

I mean Jesus Christ.

That is really unbelievable. I always knew you were biased towards the negative, but I thought it was the natural human tendency to find evidence that reinforces what we already believe and to disregard what goes against it. Everyone who's ever made an argument has been guilty of at some point or another, although admittedly, some more than others.
I never thought you were actively purging memories from your mind to fit your narrative.
I guess I was just naïve.

I mean the thinking behind that question flies so blatantly in the face of reality that I can't even bring myself to argue against it, because to do so would be giving a legitimacy it doesn't deserve. It's indicative of either a thought process so rotten and twisted by the arguments it's been making for all these years that there's no hope for it, Darth Vader style, or you're simply attempting to poison the already borderline radioactive GW well with an outright lie to manipulate the general narrative even further against Wenger and Arsenal.

I hope for your sake it's the latter.

Fuck me.
10-02-2016, 01:16 PM
GP

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10-02-2016, 01:17 PM
Letters

:lol:
10-02-2016, 01:20 PM
Niall_Quinn

I'd appreciate it if Mr Wenger would kindly leave.
10-02-2016, 01:22 PM
Globalgunner

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I'd appreciate it if Mr Wenger would kindly leave.

Sorry NQ
The pays too good, the jobs too easy, the fans too gullible.
I think I can squeeze another 5 years at least out of this lark
10-02-2016, 01:26 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Sorry NQ
The pays too good, the jobs too easy, the fans too gullible.
I think I can squeeze another 5 years at least out of this lark

Why give up the easiest, most secure and one of the best paid jobs in football.
10-02-2016, 02:12 PM
selassie

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Most people can't enjoy the 90 minutes, hence the complaints and 'bashing' on here. The soundbites we constantly get from Wenger fuels this type of discussion. The contradictions about needing all the revenue for players but not actually spending in key areas that need strengthening, excuses about inflated transfer fees, financial doping, China, strikers not being available....all excuses we just don't want to hear. Especially when you're paying a hefty amount for it each year and it's a luxury you really can't afford. It's much harder to enjoy the football especially when this is the sort of rhetoric churned out year on year with each underwhelming season. It would be different if fans went digging for this info but it's mostly Wenger offering up his opinion/explanation, trying to redefine success and fan expectations. Linking all this in with Barca's tax avoidance and what modern day companies do, economics...it's just missing the point.

Barca and clubs like Bayern know who their customers/fans are and try to provide a good service. Same goes for giants like Google, Netflix, Starbucks and the rest of the tax dodgers if we're linking this to the corporate world. Regardless of the ethics, motivation and greed of the people running those organisations, they know their fortune is linked to the customers/fans, hence why they try to deliver for them and not piss them off. Arsenal FC and Wenger have been sticking their fingers up at the fans/customers for a long time now and coming up with lame excuses year after year. That's what's pissing people off on here and why it's hard to enjoy the football.

I'm a Netflix customer and it's messed up that they're tax dodgers but their isn't much I can do about that. But if, for example, their standards started to slip and they weren't getting new shows, had buffering and streaming issues, service shut down for hours...etc....I'd expect an apology and improvements. I don't expect excuses as to why the service is sub par. Saying Amazon and Sky are buying up rights and inflating prices wouldn't cut it. Blaming faulty technical equipment for the poor service wouldn't cut it. It would take the biscuit even more if that was the yearly excuse but you then get a email saying they're bumping up the subscription fee but not actually improve the service. In fact, when criticised by the press and customers about the poor service, I wouldn't expect a defiant speech talking about their years in the business as if they shouldn't be questioned. That's Arsenal FC in a nutshell. It's very difficult to enjoy the football at the moment.

Yep, great post PnG :gp:
10-02-2016, 02:17 PM
selassie

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Originally Posted by Maestro

That right there P n G

How some fans are not infuriated by the bile Wenget and board stream out, is quite baffling. Arsenal and Wenget have no respect for the fans whatsoever and constantly insult our intelligence that's why I'm quite comfortable calling them what they are ....cunts!

Win, lose, invest, don't invest, be competent or incompetent at their jobs ....heck I can forgive and live with that but don't take me for a fool or a mug. That's where I've drawn my line and they've long since and continue to blantantly cross it.

Football in England is now just like the crack cocaine business. They're the suppliers/dealers and we're the fiends, and in Wenget Arsenal have one of the best street dealers to grace this drug game. He constantly cuts and dilutes the product and tells punters "this shit right here, this shit is the highest grade ...will blow your mind" And they continue to flock, ques round the corner fiends coming back for more. Fuck that I ain't using and I ain't getting hooked on this shit. I'll grow my own weed thank you very much.

:gp:

This post needs framing!

Love the Analogy.
10-02-2016, 03:25 PM
Globalgunner

Guardian writers picking likely EPL winners this season. http://www.theguardian.com/football/...r-league-title
Not 1 of them chose Arsenal.:(

Not difficult to fathom why:. When the going gets tough, the Gunners go missing.
10-02-2016, 03:37 PM
WMUG

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Originally Posted by selassie

:gp:

This post needs framing!

Love the Analogy.

Apart from the bit at the end where I think he's saying he's going to start his own football club :lol:
10-02-2016, 03:53 PM
selassie

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Guardian writers picking likely EPL winners this season. http://www.theguardian.com/football/...r-league-title
Not 1 of them chose Arsenal.:(

Not difficult to fathom why:. When the going gets tough, the Gunners go missing.

It's a damning indictment of how many people view Arsenal. Even when I go on rival fans forums many fans believe we are more likely to collapse than Leicester or The Spuds!

Let's just hope the boys prove us wrong.
10-02-2016, 04:00 PM
Letters

Quote:

Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Guardian writers picking likely EPL winners this season. http://www.theguardian.com/football/...r-league-title
Not 1 of them chose Arsenal.:(

Not difficult to fathom why:. When the going gets tough, the Gunners go missing.

The title isn't decided by public vote :lol:
10-02-2016, 04:02 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Guardian writers picking likely EPL winners this season. http://www.theguardian.com/football/...r-league-title
Not 1 of them chose Arsenal.:(

Not difficult to fathom why:. When the going gets tough, the Gunners go missing.

Bookies have us favourites though, at least they did the other day after the gypos lost. Journalists tend to be almost perfectly ignorant of everything ever, but bookies have cash riding on it. I'd listen to them first and sadly, it's the most encouraging sign I have seen related to our title "charge". What do they know that is invisible?
10-02-2016, 04:03 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Letters

The title isn't decided by public vote :lol:

It's not decided by Arsenal either, tbf. We have to hope all the other collapses are worse than our own, then maybe we'll collapse to glory.
10-02-2016, 04:05 PM
selassie

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Originally Posted by Letters

The title isn't decided by public vote :lol:

Of course not, a lot of the predictions are based on current/recent form, in Arsenal's case it's a mixture of current form and recent history. To be fair to Leicester they've been turning it on all season, they are very consistent and have yet to really wobble.

If Leicester do have a wobble then I can see one of the chasing pack taking the initiative, I've watched a fair bit of Leicester this season and whilst they are consistent they are by no means unbeatable.
10-02-2016, 04:10 PM
Niall_Quinn

Good quote from that Guardian article: "Because Arsenal could win it but Arsène Wenger is a slave to philosophy who, deep down, possibly suspects it is better to travel than actually arrive."

Gravy trains are better in transit too. The fun stops if they arrive.
10-02-2016, 04:13 PM
Kano

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Originally Posted by selassie

Of course not, a lot of the predictions are based on current/recent form, in Arsenal's case it's a mixture of current form and recent history. To be fair to Leicester they've been turning it on all season, they are very consistent and have yet to really wobble.

If Leicester do have a wobble then I can see one of the chasing pack taking the initiative, I've watched a fair bit of Leicester this season and whilst they are consistent they are by no means unbeatable.

I think you're being far too generous. It seems to be that a lot of people's opinion changes every other weekend when it comes to the favourites for the title. Personally I think Leicester or Spurs are favourites. They have been the most consistent and best teams in the league this season.
10-02-2016, 04:37 PM
selassie

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Originally Posted by Kano

I think you're being far too generous. It seems to be that a lot of people's opinion changes every other weekend when it comes to the favourites for the title. Personally I think Leicester or Spurs are favourites. They have been the most consistent and best teams in the league this season.

I can't make up my mind either Kano TBH, a few weeks back I thought City, now I'm favouring Leicester or the Spuds, that could change though, I've not completely given up hope on Arsenal but we're going to need to win on Sunday to have any kind of chance IMO.
10-02-2016, 10:42 PM
Xhaka Can’t

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Originally Posted by Özim

Did they not create a whole host of chances and miss them however? Whether we finished well or not it doesn't change the fact that they playe us off the park for a large part of the match, even when we beat them.

I was behind the Barca goal in the second half. A great place to be because we were fucking battering them.
11-02-2016, 10:14 AM
selassie

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Originally Posted by WMUG

Apart from the bit at the end where I think he's saying he's going to start his own football club :lol:

:lol: must be to do with the weed ;)
11-02-2016, 10:55 AM
LDG

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

I was behind the Barca goal in the second half. A great place to be because we were fucking battering them.

We were brilliant that game. I was there too. They were shitting it big time.
11-02-2016, 05:24 PM
adzzzbatch

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Originally Posted by LDG

We were brilliant that game. I was there too. They were shitting it big time.

:gp: We were immense that night :scarf:
11-02-2016, 05:26 PM
Marc Overmars

Cisc taking a penalty with a broken leg was great.

Shame he's lost his testicles since though.

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