We need to harness this current spirit of unity and get the backing of fans of all clubs for #KroenkeOut. They’ve already wrecked our club and they very nearly destroyed the league - it’s in everyone’s best interest that they’re removed ASAP.
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We need to harness this current spirit of unity and get the backing of fans of all clubs for #KroenkeOut. They’ve already wrecked our club and they very nearly destroyed the league - it’s in everyone’s best interest that they’re removed ASAP.
I'd love to see that snake gone, but difficult to know what can realistically be done to get him out?
And what happens next. As Arseblog says this morning, the chances of finding a 'good guy' billionaire owner are pretty slim.
Does it need Government intervention to stop these power grabs? Is that even remotely feasible? I love the 51% rule but how realistic is it to implement here.
I'm in :threaten:Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
so, it looks to me like Woodward and Perez called everyone up at the weekend and told them that the ESL was happening, Man U were in and if they didn't follow they'd be out in the cold
so they had to issue statements in a hurry saying they were part of it
that's why they hadn't time to talk to managers and players etc
it was blackmail and the clubs all went for it (as would everton, burnley and any other po-faced bunch of hypocrits who've been publicly criticising it)
that's why the Arsenal statement on Sunday was so perfunctory
I'm not trying to give the Kroenkes an easy ride and tbh if their plan was always to get an ESL so they could not have to compete and just watch the money come in, they might now sell (although again we need to be careful what we wish for because we could have worse)
but while it's easy to laugh at last night's statement from Arsenal, it reads better than a lot of those from other clubs (especially Levy's I'm pleased to say)
after all, if they didn't apologise and say they made a mistake we'd be demanding they did just that wouldn't we?
but it's a shame Arteta and the players weren't as vocal as Klopp, Henderson, Pep, KDB and others
but Neville can truly eff off, he was part of a club that bullied and cheated its way to titles year after year
so we've all had a really worrying 2-3 days while this played out, but at least we can know it won't be tried again for a long long time
It was a pretty good statement, to be fair.
It's just...I don't believe a word of it. Sure, they're sorry that so many fans basically told them to fuck off and that they would be withdrawing their custom, they care about the money potentially drying up. But that's all.
And sure, you could say "well, it's not the players' fault, it's not Arteta's fault". And you'd be right. But it's not like the players care about us or the club either. It's all screwed.
Charles Egan from talksport tweeted last night that KSE had alerted JP Morgan Chase, that they are ready to sell Arsenal after the collapse of the super league :shrug:
https://twitter.com/CharIesEgan/stat...190397953?s=20
Well last year Nigerian billionaire Aliko Dangote expressed an interest in purchasing Arsenal but had other commitments to finish first.
well you have to think about who 'they' are - i'm willing to bet there's some staff at the club who do care about its history and fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
as for Arteta and the players i don't think you can tar them all with the same brush - i suspect they all had their own thoughts, varying from "great i'll rake it in and don't have to play well" to "this is totally against what i think football's about"
wouldn't it be great if Wenger led a consortium of people who weren't guilty of fraud, genocide or human rights abuses - i'm not holding out much hope though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang
He's had "other commitments" for about a decade.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
Remember when Arsenal fans were comparing Wenger to Mugabe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Good times.
That's right.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
He was waiting for his Oil company to start production early this year.
His name also came up on twitter a few times and supposedly, he is an option.
https://www.football.london/arsenal-...oenke-20430504
The Dangote refinery
https://www.theafricareport.com/2991...ng-early-2021/
Honestly, I have no idea who or what comes next for us, but I don't see how KSE can possibly continue after this? Beyond the clandestine talks of a Super League, that they've obviously been having since day one, they clearly had / have no other vision or plan for this club - if this was meant to be their end game, then they've seriously miscalculated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
Stan Collymore was actually the first to announce that Arsenal had left the ESL on Twitter last night.
He also said that he had heard that one owner will sell, although no clues as to who
https://twitter.com/StanCollymore/st...611918852?s=20
Dangote will be no angel, that second article makes clear there are environmental concerns and you can guarantee he got where he did by greasing a lot of palmsQuote:
Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang
Kroenke Out protest at the Emirates Friday at 6, btw.
shall we all turn up with a GW banner? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by WMUG
Honestly, I have never wanted Wenger back more than I do right now - the club has completely lost its identity and its soul, and he's about the only person I can think of who could instantly restore some values and credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
I think our billionaire arsehole is the most likely candidate to sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
Kroen**** is the only one of them who seems to have no interest in football at all.
He always wanted the 'brand' to make money off of.
Now it's been heavily tarnished, and the userbase hates him - it could be enough for him to jump ship.
Whilst collecting a few billion for the privilege, of course :coffee:
Very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
But let's be honest - which billionaire in the world, got their riches legitimately and by being straight up and honest :shrug:
We always knew, once we got into bed with the billionaires, a dodgy owner would always be the outcome.
Honestly we could do with an oil Sheik on Citeh's level
Thanks for making me laugh today, Letters :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I've still got a few hundred GW fliers somewhere*, maybe I should take them alongQuote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
(*I think, possible I chucked them!)
Is he a fan looking to buy a club, or another investor who was eyeing the future potential of a Super League?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
they've missed out "5) built a giant toilet bowl for spuds to play in"
:haha:
https://twitter.com/g7jhp/status/1384604315399118848
*Furloughed staff and then tried to get them to work at his mansion as servantsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
It's been quoted that he is actually an Arsenal fan so who knows? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
Tbh we should just tell ALL the billionaires to fuck off out of the game.
"Ok Stan, if you would just give me your bank account details, then I can transfer de monies, to your bhaaaaank"Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
It would be nice, but it's a pipedream now :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
No reason you couldn't put pressure on both ways. Lobby the govt and FIFA/UEFA simultaneously and see who caves first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
You can't tell me what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
This is the moment to make it happen though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang
As NQ said, the parasites have shown their hand. Nobody's under any illusion about the damage these pricks would do to the game given the chance.
We won't get an opportunity like this for decades.
Strike while the iron's hot, get 50+1 implemented and reclaim our sport.
So there are reports today taht UEFA offered huge sums of money to the English clubs to withdraw from the Super League which sounds suspiciously like a bribe but never mind.
The new champions league format agreed by UEFA also means that clubs who fail to qualify but have high enough coefficient points will automatically qualify for the Champios League. We are 11th in the points apparently and given the teams ahead of us would qualify automatically via the league for the Champions League, would see us qualify next season if the rule was in place.
How is that new rule any different to the super league? It’s the big clubs looking after their own interests to ensure they all play in the big competition. The only difference is that UEFA get the money rather then super league which therefore seems to make it acceptable
that's all as disappointing as it is believableQuote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
if it's true about the bribery then absolutely UEFA have killed off the insurgents to keep control of the cash - not that any of us wanted that type of insurgency as it was the opposite of the fans getting their game back
The Kroenkes must be confused AF this morning! This is probably the closest thing to a slam dunk that you'll ever get by American sporting standards - drastic increase in income, instant security after the pandemic, cemented status as one to the world's top sides, forever, nothing but big matches against the best teams every other week... they were probably sitting there by their iPads, waiting for the kudos to start rolling in!
That’s all UEFA gave a shit about along with the premier league & sky etc. They claimed they were trying to protect the fans but as long as they got their money, they couldn’t give a shit about the fansQuote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
UEFA are geniuses! They have countered this move by creating a 'European Super League'Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
It's a brilliant idea!
:lol:
Does make you wonder if this was actually the real play from the 'founding 12'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
could be, if so they really pressed the nuclear button thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible