Bit harsh if that's the measurement of who is relatively shit or not. :lol:
His limitations are (eventually) exposed against the top guys but it's not like he loses 2 and 2 or 2, 2 and 2 every time he faces them (though he has never beaten Federer).
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Bit harsh if that's the measurement of who is relatively shit or not. :lol:
His limitations are (eventually) exposed against the top guys but it's not like he loses 2 and 2 or 2, 2 and 2 every time he faces them (though he has never beaten Federer).
not sure about 'shit' in comparison. a lot of the time he'll give them a bloody good game, which is more than the rest of the top ten. he gets a ton of respect from everyone in the game for being so competitive. he falls short when it matters but the gap isn't huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
Jankovic out too!
Dolonc beat her 7-5 6-2.
The seventh former world number one to crash out today.
Can you guess the others? :ninja:
hewitz, shaz, fedz, wozni, ivano(z) and, erm....
shit
Azarenka
Everytime I've seen him he's basically been outclassed, don't think he ever even takes a set against them. His game is very limited, it's fine against the lesser players because despite his limitations he makes the most of what he has but when he comes up against the top players he's got no weapons to hurt them, no big shot, no big serve nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
He never threatens to beat them either though, largely because as stated in my post above he has no big shot to threaten them with.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
1) Only using times you've seen him isn't a good way to judge a player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
2) You only need to look at his record to see he has taken sets from them.
3) He has a good record against Murray, they always have close matches.
4) He's not limited. He's a good all-round player who has earned his ranking.
5) Three of the players above him are three of the greatest tennis players ever. It's no disgrace to be outclassed by them.
6) Once again, much like when discussing football, you shouldn't use your limited viewing time/knowledge of a team/player to make sweeping, exaggerated generalisations.
1) In games that matter he pretty much gets outclassed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
2) He may have taken sets but his record in grandslams and the bigger tournaments where it matters is woeful in the recent times.
3) The only place he's beaten Murray is at the French where Murray isn't the best, other than that I don't think he's done much against him in the major tournaments
4) He's very limited, a slow serve with no kick, no outstanding shot, he's solid but has no weapons to really challenge the bigger names in major tournaments
5) Murray isn't one of the greatest, you could argue neither is Djokovic yet (he will be in time no doubt), no disgrace perhaps but there's players below him who may not be as consistent against the lesser players but have a better chance of beating the big names than him
6) It's not my knowledge alone, in the French open final they pretty much said as much, the guy has no weapons and can't hurt the top players and they know a bit about tennis seeing as they both have been involved in tennis most of their life.
If your point is that he's shit because he's inferior to living legends of the game like Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, then well done.