It will get much worse before it begins to get better.
At least I hope it does, its the only way to get Wenger out which is the ONLY objective this season.
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It will get much worse before it begins to get better.
At least I hope it does, its the only way to get Wenger out which is the ONLY objective this season.
Honestly wouldn't be shocked if Kroenke's thinks we're doing well because we've won three FA cups recently (and he's attended all three of them), which I wouldn't be surprised if he viewed as the Superbowl equivalent of English Football and wondering why our "spoiled fanbase" is constantly whinging. He's probably that ignorant of modern day football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
It relates to what I said before, we really need some football people on the board in tune with the modern game instead of clueless Yanks and Tory shitheads who prefer Horse racing.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Interesting. Seems like we've got a thing for Koreans after nearly signing the South Korean Legend, "Foo King-Nothing" last week.
And don't forget his mate, Hoo Fuk Dat.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Things are gonna turn really nasty this season for wenger and co.
I didn't want to see it and wanted him to leave on a good note.
Now it will be sour and full of anger and now I just think he deserves everything he gets from here on in.
We always say it's going to turn nasty but it never goes the whole hog.
Wenger somehow always manages to claw himself back from the brink of total oblivion. Which is enough for a lot of people to accept that it could be better but also be so much worse.
Welcome to the party Robbie. We thought you'd got lost, but better late than never.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUhf8gX_QMA
Dunno. It was getting pretty nasty last season. The FA Cup win placated people somewhat and had he gone then he could have done so with a shred of dignity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Soon as he signed that contract Wenger must have known that if we got off to a bad start this year then it would get nasty again.
We always tend to go on runs which placate people for a bit but if we don't it could get very hostile.
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Originally Posted by Letters
Agree with this lose a couple and it really gets ramped up but as soon as we win 2 or 3 (even if the opposition is average) it all dies down and people are reasomably happy again, there's never any consistency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
The fact are we'll never challenge for the big prizes (heck Kroenke even cites the Leicester model as the one we follow, with minmal investment) and a few wins here and there really don't change a thing, we also always have a tendency to win a few games at the end of the season, usually when there's no major prize left to play for and that always placates the fans.
What would be needed consistent discontent regardless of these wins against lesser sides, because ultimately they just gloss over the cracks and the same thing has been happening year on year for a long time.
On another note, interesting to see how Ozil and Ramsey excel for their countries and yet are not so great playing for us, Wenger must be doing something wrong with them.
I don't think there's going to be much oportunity for things to get better soon
Our next away games are Chelsea, Watford, Everton and Man City
Now with the exception of Watford how many of those games do you imagine us winning?
The only reason to watch our games now is out of morbid fascination. Can we get any worse? Is that even possible? Can the club get any greedier? Can Kroenke become an even bigger cunt? Can Wenger stretch the conceivable limits of incompetence and voyage off into the realm of the inconceivable? Will Bellerin put a proper cross in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Hi, i've just joined the board and this is the first post i read :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I agree with the 'morbid fascination' bit and in answer to your questions:
- unfortunately, yes
- probably though how much can we get for Ozil or anyone anyway?
- definitely not possible
- totally, yes
- seriously? no way...
Welcome to the den of misery :tiphat:
New posters joining GW in 2017 ..... :faint:
thanks :dQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
well i've got to let off steam somewhere :dQuote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
The last time someone joined this place, it was run off steam powerQuote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Hamsters on treadmills actually :p
Get Ma from under the bed and tell her to fix a welcome, there's a newcomer!
This fucking guy.
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Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger believes the January transfer window must be scrapped as it leads unsettled players to focus on their next move rather than playing for their clubs.
'The players who do not play or the players who are tapped up in October they already start again to think: 'Where do I go in January?'. That's not a way to be on board with a football club...'
'We are here to entertain people and you can do that with people who are really on board together, to achieve something together and not every minute that it doesn't go well to think: 'Where can I go next?''
'I believe that we have to bring some decency. We all complain today that it has become too much a business, but we can do something about it. We have that responsibility in the game,' he added in the interview released on Tuesday.
'You can't have a player preparing for a vital football game and still be on the phone at 4 o'clock: 'Do I go or not?' or 'How much is it?', 'Where do I go?'
'The ideal situation would be to have a transfer period that is closed 48 hours before the first game of the championship and to close it completely until the season after.'
The guy turns it into a business rather than a sport with his constant penny pinching and lack of desire to win whilst settling for being a 4th place loser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Moreover he says they're here to entertain and yet our football is rubbish and totally bores most of the fans, he wouldn't know the meaning of entertainment.
Has it finally dawned on him that we're not in an 'ideal' situation and why it won't become a trend in football because we'll have to go through the same shit during the winter? We'll have a season of speculation and distractions. Fine work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I think he knew he was bullshitting when he said that, still feels the need to Goebels his fuck ups
Like the young kid trying to impress the girl with his moves falls on his arse but totally meant to do it
But then who knows the guy is a mass of contradictions
He is the first one at the training ground and the last one to leave at night and yet the team seem negligently unprepared, what is he doing all day?
He is understood to regard his players as sons and refuses to be too disciplinarian with them, and yet there appears to be very little in the way of personal relationship especially if we take Ox at his word. Could it just be that as has been said of him many times he is just simply adverse to confrontation.
And that's before we get onto his quixotic approach to spending.
I do honestly wonder if we are getting past the point of someone who simply is stubborn and entrenched and need to ask if this guy is in full command of his faculties. After almost ten years of having had no checks and balances that would have given him an unhealthy dose of megalomania, but you wonder if something else is going on upstairs.
What did Ox say?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
There is an interview for Liverpool where he talks up Jurgen Klopp and especially goes out of his way to mention the personal relationship he cultivates with his players. Possibly reading between the lines but seems like a dig at Wenger. Le Grove posted the video yesterday.
Wenger is very aloof an individual so it's not that surprising
Do you actually disagree with what he's saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
That's why I think Ox could be a success there. You can tell Klopp's players absolutely love playing for him and Ox is the kind of hard working guy who would easily buy into his philosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
"Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!"
The point is that everything is a deflection. It's not my fault I can't get my shit together and make a decision. It's the transfer window that conspires against meQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
That’s a surprise. Ox signed for us when he was 16. You would have thought Wenger would have had a close relationship with him. I guess it’s different for all players. I still remember Wenger telling a story of Theo having to knock on his door to find out why he wasn’t getting picked for games when constantly being placed on the bench. This is early in Theo’s career. I would have assumed back then that Wenger was a ‘father figure’ a mentor and coaching Theo every step of the way but that statement painted a picture of a more distant relationship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Is he soft on discipline or too distant from his players to actually have control? Will check the Le Grove article. A lot of strange shit is happening.
Wenger is right. But did this not cross his mind when he said we were in ideal situation and when he said it may cost us more to keep Sanchez?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It would help if more people challenged his opinion and thought about what he’s saying instead of just agreeing with it blindly.
OK, but is what he's saying wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
When you add context, yes I disagree, he talks about all this and does the opposite so in my view it's nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I don't think the January window should be scrapped at all personally, preferred it when you could sign a player any time you like like the old days.
I wouldn't want to have just one transfer window.
For a start if you keep players under contract it's a non issue, problem is we made a mess of it and didn't. A player will only want to move realistically if he's not happy or he has a better offer, if you keep your players happy and contracted it's really not a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Most players don't move in the middle of the season anyway, January is usually quiet, I've not seen many players being unsettled by the window.
As usual the guy makes a mountain out of a molehill, always playing the victim when much of this is self inflicted (the contract situations)
The "ideal situation" comments were clearly bullshit, I think with this he has more of a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
I don't think anyone agrees with his comments blindly - no-one on here - but they do seem to disagree with his comments blindly, even if they actually agree with them.
I think there's a case that there's either a transfer window in the close season and then once the season is going the squad is settled, or a free for all like the old days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Don't have an objection to either really and I don't have a huge problem with the current system but it is a bit random we have a mid-season transfer window when we don't have a mid-season break.
I don't care that much but Wenger's opinion about this isn't in the "ideal situation" category.
I think the whole transfer window thing is bollocks and contributes to inflated prices. If a player doesn't want to be at a club he doesn't want to be. I think we were better off when you could within reason make any signing you liked between June and March the following year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Some people see through the bullshit. If he had command of his team and affairs, the January window wouldn’t be a problem. If he had planned for the Summer window and not waited until deadline day, he wouldn’t have to worry about players not being focussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
This is a guy that talks as if leaving negotiations down to the last minute of the window is a poker strategy! He puts himself in these positions and then complains about the structure. He wouldn’t even have to worry about this stuff if he’d just delegate and get Director of Football in.
Yes. 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
If he was saying it because he wants the transfer window reformed for the good of the game then fine. No objection.
But he's saying it because he's a complete fuck-up in the transfer window and doesn't want to handle the pressures that every other manager faces. So his intentions are devious, as usual.
If we were the only club who had to suffer this then he'd have cause for complaint. But we aren't. It may be a shitty playing field but everyone is required to play on it. Including him. So he should shut up and get on with it.
OF COURSE ALEXIS WILL BE LOOKING TO JANUARY FFS! :doh:
What does Wenger expect? He refused to meet the player's demands, he let the situation drag on and then he agreed to sell the player after stating that wouldn't happen. So he made his own bed and then shit in it. Tough luck.
He also refused to get the chequebook out and buy the players we need to signal to the squad and the fans we have an ounce of ambition. His fake bullshit bid for Lemar at the last minute isn't a sign of ambition, it's another indicator of deceit and and a piece in another fucked up transfer window. I mean, what a farce! The whole summer chasing a player he could have had for 30 million less than the final desperate bid? This Wenger guy is clueless. We know it, he knows it.
So what do clueless people prefer when faced with a challenge? They prefer the challenge to go away. And that's all he's doing here. Pretending he's fighting for the game but in reality trying to avoid the challenges.
Same as a politician who says he wants to help the poor or save the planet. Worthy goals, no doubt. Impossible to disagree with. Unless they are being proposed by a devious cunt who is surfing altruism with an ulterior motive.
I'll wait until somebody with credibility suggests these changes and then I'll get behind them.