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I can see it going to deadline day.
i actually dont care if we sell him to united. i want the **** gone, i would rather sell him to united then keep him. that statement showed his true colours and i dont want him at our club.
Sell him to United then keep him... cunning as a fox.
I like it.
me too. this is a strange development akin to figo leaving barca several years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by selassie
We hate you so much because we loved you so much.
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I don't care if we sell him - but I do hope we just sort it out quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
I don't want him sold to Utd though. It would be a final admission that we're no longer credible competitors to Utd (which might, in practice, be true, but I don't want it underlined).
Rather sell him abroad. If it is to another English club then I'd choose City as they're not a proper club and anything they 'achieve' is tainted.
We wont sell him to Man United. Wenger would walk out of principle if we did. Remember what he said about Nasri last season when United were keen on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
If United pay up, we'll sell no doubt about it IMO.
Fergie after the Barcelona friendly:
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Sir Alex Ferguson says he is persevering in his bid to sign Robin van Persie after losing out on Lucas Moura.
With PSG declaring they have won the race to sign Brazilian Lucas for a club record fee, speculation has been rife that the Reds are stepping up attempts to land the Arsenal captain. Although the Gunners would clearly prefer to sell to a club outside of the Barclays Premier League, the boss is hopeful a deal can be struck.
"I can't give you any more information," he said when asked about van Persie. "We have made a bid and they've been trying to negotiate with other clubs. We just have to persevere. Hopefully it will come our way. We're trying our best but there's no progress at this moment in time.
"I don't have a gut feeling on it at the moment, I must admit. We're not getting any breakthrough with Arsenal. It's difficult to say why they're operating this way. I don't know what their thoughts are because they're not giving anything away."
Regarding Lucas' sale from Sao Paulo, it is further evidence that the cash-laden Parisiens mean business in the transfer market.
"I find it quite amazing that a club can pay €45million for a 19-year-old boy," Sir Alex continued. "To make a mark on everyone - to tell everyone that PSG are here - they've signed Thiago Silva from Milan and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
"They must have spent about £150m in the last month. As you know, the only deterrent to that is UEFA. In the conditions of European football, you don't qualify for Europe by winning the league or coming second - you only get in by invitation. That's where, hopefully, UEFA can have some power. When somebody's paying £45m for a 19-year-old boy you have to say the game's gone mad."
By going public it seems that he's trying to get RVP to force his way out. Your move Mr Perise.
I'm fairly resigned now to him being a United player soon enough.
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By effectively and openly agitating for a move, he dissed us ...but actually pushing for a move to utd, he's a ****
i will let him rot before we sell to utd ...let him run his contract down on the bench and in the carling cup team, fuck him
but this is the real world and the club as a business would rather take the money
Would rather he played out his final year tbh. He'd play his heart out knowing that he'd be in for a bumper pay day on a free - and from our perspective, he'd be 30 when he leaves, we'd have gotten more than good value from his service and if he hung around and enabled us to progress to a cup final or two, and maybe win something, monetarily as well as symbolically, it would be worth more than a 20mill transfer to our rivals.
I kinda think the club see's it the same way. Only a very public RVP sulk could deliever him to united now.
i disagree, united won nothing last year, have signed two players this year, one is a player who retired a year ago and one is a good player. if we sell him to them, they ahve naother good player but one who thrives in a system set for him, united wont do that given rooney is the main man. also if we strengthen, and by the osunds of it we have replacements in mind, then i would argue we are in as good a possition as united. lets say we sell, and sign llorente or soemone else of that quality then we have strengthened more then united have. yes they will have signed a world class striker in rvp, but we have will have three, so we are sorted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
i also think selling him even to united doesnt mean we are competing etc (only if we get a llorente in) because imo its saying, fuck off robin, we dont care about you, we have replacements in, we are ready. so far we have signed three genunie top quality players, when have we said that? replace rvp with another similar player and we have a better squad then united imo. think its right to sell, he needs to fuck off.
it is seemingly his only real option. arsenal do not want to sell to city and juventus along with the italian league is a mess once more, so it doesn't help our negotiation stance on top of the whole rvp statementQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
ayeQuote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
This (unfortunately apart from your final sentence).Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
then it shows what an utter disloyal judas **** van persie is for releasing that statementQuote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
his statement came after conte's arrest, so you have to imagine that the manchester clubs were his targets back then. as McNamara rightly said on the last page - we're only angry because he was such a fav with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
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Originally Posted by AKBapologist
errm.....he's already said he wants out.
He said he won't be signing a new contract. It doesn't exclude the possiblity of him running his current one down.Quote:
Originally Posted by gooners
But it was okay for the club chairman, whilst they've slapped a gagging order on RVP, to come out and indirectly say he's only after money and not loyal like the Giggs of this world? When he decided to tell his side of things IN THE SAME WAY, he is a traitor?Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Tell you what, why hasn't Hill-wood and co invested any of their own money in the club? At least the likes of abrahmovich puts their own money into thier clubs --- not to increase their share values then flog them off to make a tidy sum!
And that would be in his best interest how?Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Players who can join clubs on a free get massive signing on bonuses if there any good.Quote:
Originally Posted by gooners
well, not when you are 30 and looking for a long term contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
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Originally Posted by gooners
The Giggs comparison is funny. United look after their old players, even when they're on the decline. We push them out the door quickly so we can make as much money off them before their valuation plummets.
Depends on how good a season you had before hand. If all the top clubs are interested, they'd all be willing to offer 3-4 year contracts at silly wages knowing they didn't have to give anyone a transfer fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by gooners
Lets leave aside what I think of Van Persie's tactics here.Quote:
Originally Posted by gooners
I find it staggering that a man who was part of a cabal that profited to the tune of half a billion pounds without investing a penny in the club has the temerity to spout about player greed.
would arsenal offer that kind of contract? ---- actually, you said 'top club'.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
But then I doubt any player at that age, in their right mind, would take such a chance. What if they get a serious injury? Not a sensible chance to take.
right, so you are ignoring the fact that we stood by van persie through 8 years of injuries?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Ive decided RvP is staying now so its all ok. We have the best attack in the PL.
Yeah, we did that out of the kindness of our own hearts. Please!Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Yeah, he's been injured a lot but I don't think our medical staff have done a good job of looking after him. But besides that, he's been with the club for 8 years since his youth and is close to retirement. When a player retires from his career, he wants to at least have no regrets about his career. If he's not convinced that we can win a title while he's still in his prime, then it's best he does what's right for him. 8 years is a long time to stay at one club especially when you haven't won anything. He's been here long than some of the Invincible players.
Also, he's not obligated to sign a new deal. It's a contract between both parties agreed to and once it's up he can move on. He says he's not extending the deal now it's up to the club to make a decision.
FFS
Came back home from work and saw this thread had quite a few pages since i saw it last so thought he had fucked off
Apparently not :(
So the fact remains that RVP doesn't want to play for arsenal anymore.
So let's cut the crap and hope the club sells him ASAP for as much money as possible.
At the end of the day we support Arsenal FC not RVP FC.
Let's support the players that actually want to be here and play for the shirt.
Bloody right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
DAMN FUCKING SKIPPY! Good post mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
Now the Mancs have missed out on that Brazilian kid I expect them to go all out for RVP.
They paid £18m for Ashley Young who had the same contract position as RVP so I'm not sure why they're dicking around with paltry bids for the best striker in the league.
In Wenger's head RVP is already sold. There's no way he'd have bought two strikers otherwise. He's taken him to Germany so clubs wanting him don't smell that we're resigned to selling him and therefore reduce their offers.
RVP is gone.
I like our style though.
RVP can go for £20m, except to utd where he'll cost £25m.
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Bloody right too.