Are we still in the waiting period?
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Are we still in the waiting period?
I am frustrated. I know we tend to do our business behind closed doors, but for once the club needs to ditch its 'safety first' approach and get 2 decent players in. Now. We need to convince RVP to stay otherwise its groundhog day yet again.
We all knew this was on the cards last season when we sold Cesc and Nasri. We've already hit the iceberg and it's too late.
I dunno, I think the pumps are just about holding, but the crew need to take some decisive action. Surely the captain needs to take a stand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
sounds like he's gone kamping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
Wenger isn't going to do a thing. He's had enough opportunities to make a stand but hasn't done anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
it's inexcusable and frankly unforgivable. we let the contract run down on one of our best players last season in samir nasri and in the end had to sell him in the most drawn out transfer saga for years. the amount of unrest it caused was ridiculous, especially during the summer, as we could not buy players until we got the money for samir. it ended up affecting our whole season because we bought players on the last day of the transfer window, so for the first 5 months the squad had no cohesion and were dropping points left right and centre. it also meant players had to work twice as hard to recuperate the season towards the end which left them all fatigued.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
you would have thought the board and manager would have learnt from previous mistakes and tied up the contract for RVP way before the season ended. or at least made him sign a pre-contract arrangement to stay for the next few years. but once again we have let it run down. we've also got players like walcott entering into the final year of their contracts so we're probably going to have the same situation next season. whether you think walcott deserves a new contract is a different debate but to let the same occurence happen again when it can be prevented is immoral and damn right neglectful. for a club of our size is embaressing. what the fuck does gazidis get paid to do !! letting this happen 2 years in a row should be enough for him to get sacked.
His job is to realise the untapped potential in the sponsorship and merchandising arrangements that will provide Stan with his £200mill margin when he signs off to Usmanov for £750mill (say £850mill with inflation) in 2016.Quote:
what the fuck does gazidis get paid to do
I think it's fair to cut Wenget some slack until Euro 2012 is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
That is of course unless we're after players who won't be involved.
Dempsey. :cloud9:
Twitter :lol: /ach
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-Llorente.html
Hazard was always a reach but Kagawa wasnt/still isnt but if the reports are true and Utd are back with an improved third bid, soon will be.
I say WTF to that we should get that guy, we must have money we must show more ambition, dont get left behind again.
Last summer we put ourselves in a bad situation. RVP was never going to sign a new deal after we let our club captain go...again. That was the make or break summer and we blew it. Also, after the Carling Cup final, i think a lot of players lost faith in Wenger. He can't win anymore. This season confirms that same fear. It goes beyond the realms of Gazidis and our transfer policy now. Don't forget RVP's reaction when Wenger subbed off the Ox. Just as the fans were chanting 'you don't know what your doing' i think we have a lot or players thinking that as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
FL day might come true
No way will we spend £28mill on a single player. Not without selling RvP anyway. That would mean spending money to get an inferior replacement so fingers crossed this deal is just hot air.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Llorente is pretty good tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Saha has been released by Spurs. :doh:
Dodgy 'Arry. :bow:
Above average would be fair. RvP is world class, one of the few real world class players out there when you strip away the hype boiled up by agents and the media. They better fucking keep RvP or I'll get really cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
He's looking for another deck chair to arrange the right pattern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
Freebie swap deal for Chamakh? Saha into our treatment room and Chamakh out of football?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Llorente is a beast tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Here we go, same old tune by the band. Anyway, our finances make us unsinkable so complacency if perfectly fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney
And inferior in every way to RvP. So bad deal for us if we lose RvP and have to pay money to get this guy in, most likely on the same sort of wages we could offer to RvP right now. Both of them - certainly, good idea. But it will never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Chamakh's already out of football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Llorente above average? :lol:
Isn't it likely whoever is RVP's replacement that they will be 'inferior'? It won't matter too much if the other players who come will be able to get goals too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
why would we spend money on a replacement when we have bendtner? stop being silly now, we can't kill youth rememberQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Llorente is a very good player and if we get him to replace RVP I won't be complaining. I know it's a cliche but he's a tall guy, powerful in the air as well so shouldn't have too many problems adapting to the Premier League.
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Originally Posted by Joker
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I think it will. Holding on to RvP is our top priority this year. Keeping him sends one type of message to the fans, football world, etc. Losing his would be like kicking ourselves in the bollocks in public. There's a lot more to it than who will grab the goals. Getting a top striker in IN ADDITION to RvP, that would be great. Replacing him, a massive step backwards in so many way not least of which would be a signal from our board they are not interested in the football side of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
It's OK.
We'll take Llorente. You guys can have Big Andy for a very reasonable £30m.
We'll take whoever score most goals in the EurosQuote:
Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss
Deal?
Even better if RvP ends up at city. We lose the finished article and top striker in Europe, strengthen the opposition and end up with a will he/ won't he replacement and can settle down for a stream of "adapting to the PL" excuses. Ideal outcome, nothing to complain about there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
Actually, we'll stick with Andy, he'll come good one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
I think that ship sailed a long time ago. Holding on to him should not be our priority, all we can do is try to buy other players of a certain quality and see if that is enough to convince him because we know if push comes to shove we will sell. To me he should be considered an afterthought right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Would be nice to take a step forwards rather than back for a change. Anyway, the most likely scenario is we have already signed RvPs replacement in Podolski. Wouldn't surprise me one bit and would fit into the pattern of our transfer activity over the last few years. Plus, of course, it would turn up another transfer window profit which seems to be the primary objective anyway. Not sure why we get suckered into thinking we'll be making £28mill or £32mill signings every transfer window. With Podolski in we'd need to sell more than just RvP to get a Llorente. Maybe that can be done by selling the deadweight but I wonder what might happen if Walcott has even a half decent Euro?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
The Llorente talk makes me chuckle, as if we'd spend that kind of money on one player! I wouldnt be surprised if Podolski was our only major deal. We'll probably supliment that signing with a bunch of projects & lose RVP at the end of the window. Wenger will then defiantly claim that we're ready to compete & that there was nobody available on the market that could upgrade our squad.
There's something I don't like about llorente. Has the touch of the gomez's for me. I'm with NQ on this - we must keep RVP for the next 5 years. Nobody does it better IMO. Makes me feel sad for the rest tbf.
Strengthening the squad is the top priority. We should make that clear. There is no point in keeping him for an extra year just so he can leave on a free. Regardless of what RVP is doing, we have to improve the squad. I get the feeling Wenger and his cronies will try to hoodwink everyone in the summer. They'll announce RVP is staying but leave out the part about him not signing a new deal, we all celebrate and forget about the other transfers and it's back to business as usual. One key signing all summer with kids/fringe players to top it off. If the Board would have listened to Wenger, this is what he would have done last summer with Nasri. I bet he's going to put the same argument to the Board for RVP and he'll probably get his way this time. But it won't make a blind bit of difference if we fail to win silverware again next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I know and I do too but realistically this is how we operate now, regardless of how much money we actually make. We get suckered in to it because we're football supporters and thus we're inherently brainless. Redface devoted a 200 page thread to Hazard but to what end? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We'll sell some of the 'dead weight' but then we'll level it out by brinigng in the next Bischoff and hope that particular dart hits the right part of the board.
It'd be an all time high if he stayed. But the thought of him going scares the living daylights out of me. A far call from Arshavin arriving from Russia with love, now all we do is sell. Of course Wenger is Dr. No when it comes to transfers, cheap so called diamonds are forever plucked from obscure places. For big name players the world is not enough so they won't come to us. Every season it's the same, transfer window anticipation only for our hopes to die another day. The fans are told nothing with the board preferring a for your eyes only policy, rather than taking a view to a kill in the transfer market they nick the cash and head off to the casino for a royale piss up. It's like they have a license to kill this club for their own benefit. I suppose there's one quantum of solace in all this - we have Jack, provided he doesn't die another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn