Good Bye RVP!

So RVP isn't refusing to train and that talk about him refusing to go to Asia was probably rubbish side he's going to Germany.

Well seeing as he didnt go to Asia, i doubt it was rubbish

Poldiski and Giroud didn't go either. Did they refuse to train too?

Podolski and Giroud are new signings and stayed behind to work on their fitness/get used to England

RVP is our star player and captain of the club

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Originally Posted by Ach

Podolski and Giroud are new signings and stayed behind to work on their fitness/get used to England

RVP is our star player and captain of the club

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Not anymore he isn't he's leaving remember? and our one season captain this season will be Song before he move's to Barca next season ;)

People are putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with all kinds of answers. If Van Persie refused to go to Asia why would he travel now and why would Wenger want him to?

People need to sense check some of their views.

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Originally Posted by GB.

People are putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with all kinds of answers. If Van Persie refused to go to Asia why would he travel now and why would Wenger want him to?

People need to sense check some of their views.

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Exactly. Merts and Kosienly didn't travel either.

Probably down to the fact they all went to the Euro's Arsenal always give players more time when coming off a tournament.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Exactly. Merts and Kosienly didn't travel either.

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Neither of them demanded a move though...

We cant take every player we have on tour. Im sure there are dozens of youth players we didnt take either. None of them have demanded to leave though so whats your point?

We all know RVP is money hungry, that much is obvious to everyone.

Fuck him

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Neither of them demanded a move though...

We cant take every player we have on tour. Im sure there are dozens of youth players we didnt take either. None of them have demanded to leave though so whats your point?

We all know RVP is money hungry, that much is obvious to everyone.

Fuck him

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And you're the same guy praising Flamini on another thread. :lol:

So why has he decided to go to Germany if he has that sort of power? Especially when people are talking as of he's a due a medical at United anytime soon. Use some common sense.

Some discussions on here are pointless and I might as well call it a day. There is no consistency and it's like people just fail to connect the dots when faced with these situations. You talk about the club going backwards and seem able to identify why we haven't won anything for 7 years, but lose all sense of perspective when history repeats itself. Brainfarts all over the place and it's embarrassing.

TBH I am sick of the whole tawdry world of football - and shitty transfer saga's like RVP's. I'm beyond caring where he goes.

Flamini honoured his contract. He was entitled to leave at the end of it. Extremely loyal of him to stay til the end of his contract.

RVP is crying for a move now after one decent season and 7 injury prone ones. He thinks hes a billy big bollocks so like i said fuck him.

Why has he gone to Germany? Probably cos its closer than Asia tbh

Honestly, what is the point defending him?

He wants out ffs, who gives a fuck if he refused to go on the tour or not.

This seems to be becoming an endless crusade to paint him in some holy light or something.

Arsenal have done what he asked, whether it was proactive or reactive, what the fuck does it matter?

Weve added 3 good players, one world class and more importantly, 3 players that have experience of winning silverware.

We have strengthened the team and are still looking to add more by all reports.

And yet RVP still wants out and to Utd it seems.

RVP doesnt want to stay here. He's not a legend, he hasnt been our best player for more than one season in eight years, and we'll move on without him.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Flamini honoured his contract. He was entitled to leave at the end of it. Extremely loyal of him to stay til the end of his contract.

RVP is crying for a move now after one decent season and 7 injury prone ones. He thinks hes a billy big bollocks so like i said fuck him.

Why has he gone to Germany? Probably cos its closer than Asia tbh

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And because he wants to be match fit for when the season starts.

At whichever club that is.

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

And because he wants to be match fit for when the season starts.

At whichever club that is.

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Exactly

We're basically getting him fit for another club. We should have told him to fuck off when he decided to come to Germany.

Hes a **** of the highest order and hope he fucks off asap

I honestly don't know how people can defend him over this.

No one has denied that the club has made mistakes or bad decisions, but none of that excuses his behaviour.

Fuck him. He's a cunt

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Originally Posted by Ach

Flamini honoured his contract. He was entitled to leave at the end of it. Extremely loyal of him to stay til the end of his contract.

RVP is crying for a move now after one decent season and 7 injury prone ones. He thinks hes a billy big bollocks so like i said fuck him.

Why has he gone to Germany? Probably cos its closer than Asia tbh

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If he's training, there is a possibility that he'll stay for a year. He's just refused to sign a new deal. You guys get led astray by the media or just wilfully ignorant. It's not about painting RVP as a saint, just not believing all the bullshit in the press. If he went to Asia, you'd still talk some nonsense as if it were a smokescreen move.

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Honestly, what is the point defending him?

He wants out ffs, who gives a fuck if he refused to go on the tour or not.

This seems to be becoming an endless crusade to paint him in some holy light or something.

Arsenal have done what he asked, whether it was proactive or reactive, what the fuck does it matter?

Weve added 3 good players, one world class and more importantly, 3 players that have experience of winning silverware.

We have strengthened the team and are still looking to add more by all reports.

And yet RVP still wants out and to Utd it seems.

RVP doesnt want to stay here. He's not a legend, he hasnt been our best player for more than one season in eight years, and we'll move on without him.

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Pretty much

When all is said and done and Arsenal are no more and on judgement day, God asks Arsenal fans who was our best striker, RVP wont even get a mention. Hes the new Christopher Wreh tbh

Actually harsh on Wreh cos his goals helped us win a double tbh

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If he's training, there is a possibility that he'll stay for a year. He's just refused to sign a new deal. You guys get led astray by the media or just wilfully ignorant. It's not about painting RVP as a saint, just not believing all the bullshit in the press. If he went to Asia, you'd still talk some nonsense as if it were a smokescreen move.

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Or as Jeebus said, he wants to get fit for another club

:lol: A complete waste of time. Fuck it.

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And because he wants to be match fit for when the season starts.

At whichever club that is.

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Absolutely right.

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:lol: A complete waste of time. Fuck it.

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Why?

Lots of players go on tour for their club and then leave during or after it

Why do you think RVP is so different? Are you that infatuated by him to think hes done nothing wrong? Open your eyes and see whats right in front of you

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Originally Posted by I_Killed_Kenny

DAMN FUCKING SKIPPY! Good post mate!

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Honestly, what is the point defending him?

He wants out ffs, who gives a fuck if he refused to go on the tour or not.

This seems to be becoming an endless crusade to paint him in some holy light or something.

Arsenal have done what he asked, whether it was proactive or reactive, what the fuck does it matter?

Weve added 3 good players, one world class and more importantly, 3 players that have experience of winning silverware.

We have strengthened the team and are still looking to add more by all reports.

And yet RVP still wants out and to Utd it seems.

RVP doesnt want to stay here. He's not a legend, he hasnt been our best player for more than one season in eight years, and we'll move on without him.

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And what is the point in just making shit up and losing all perspective just to bash a player.

We are all farking fans! Just because some refuse to bash a player just because he wants out doesn't make make us any less fans.


It is a debate board.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

If he's training, there is a possibility that he'll stay for a year. He's just refused to sign a new deal. You guys get led astray by the media or just wilfully ignorant. It's not about painting RVP as a saint, just not believing all the bullshit in the press. If he went to Asia, you'd still talk some nonsense as if it were a smokescreen move.

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I dont know about everyone else, but I couldnt give two fucks about what the media say.

All I can see is our club captain wanting to leave after one great season and not stay with the club I support.

So for me, he can get fucked based purely on that alone.

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And what is the point in just making shit up and losing all perspective just to bash a player.

We are all farking fans! Just because some refuse to bash a player just because he wants out doesn't make make us any less fans.


It is a debate board.

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can i ask what shit he has made up in the post you ahve quoted?

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Originally Posted by I_Killed_Kenny

DAMN FUCKING SKIPPY! Good post mate!

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can i ask what shit he has made up in the post you ahve quoted?

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I replied to all that similar shit you made up earlier. I wont repeat myself. Go back in the thread if you want an answer.

But then the coolest and fashionable thing to do is go around saying fark him, traitor, greedy ****. That will make me a fan.

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Yeah, we did that out of the kindness of our own hearts. Please!

Yeah, he's been injured a lot but I don't think our medical staff have done a good job of looking after him. But besides that, he's been with the club for 8 years since his youth and is close to retirement. When a player retires from his career, he wants to at least have no regrets about his career. If he's not convinced that we can win a title while he's still in his prime, then it's best he does what's right for him. 8 years is a long time to stay at one club especially when you haven't won anything. He's been here long than some of the Invincible players.

Also, he's not obligated to sign a new deal. It's a contract between both parties agreed to and once it's up he can move on. He says he's not extending the deal now it's up to the club to make a decision.

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so you say united stand by their old players and look after them and we dont then dimiss the fact that we actually give injury prone players a chance, clichy, rvp, diaby etc, we stood by them all through their problems. we stood by rvp through his rape case, we gave him eveything we could to make sure he could succed. he then throws it back in our face.

you say who wants to look back at their career with no trophies, but where was van persie when we needed to win stuff, where was he during the finals we have been in? injured most of the time, just because we dont win stuff doesnt mean the players arent to blame, we lost the cc final two years ago, the players are too blame there, i am fed up with this bullshit from players saying i want to win stuff and acting as if they are free from blame for not winning with the club they leave

He can fuck of out of it.

Utd, City, Juve? Who gives a shit. He's a ****. And he can do one.

If he wants to do a u-turn, also fine, but it'll have to be along the lines of:

"I thought I'd let you guys, the fans know, that I love you guys. And because the support you guys have showed me last year, I thought I'd tell you guys first that if you go to my website, there's a statement just for you guys, and not the media. And it says sorry to all of you guys that I made a mistake, and I want to stay at the club where my heart is, and I love you guys"

If he doesn't say eactly those words, then he can go and play fucking dressage at Utd.

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I replied to all that similar shit you made up earlier. I wont repeat myself. Go back in the thread if you want an answer.

But then the coolest and fashionable thing to do is go around saying fark him, traitor, greedy ****. That will make me a fan.

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oh you are still aruging the fact we signed giroud after the statement?

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But then the coolest and fashionable thing to do is go around saying fark him, traitor, greedy ****. That will make me a fan.

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Oh dear :rolleyes:

I doubt he's refused to train, given that he's going to Germany and we actually saw him in training before we went off on the Asia tour. Personally, like I said before I don't think losing him will be a big loss at all, and I expect him to flatter to deceive at Old Trafford, but there's some revisionism going on here re: RVP, from people who treated him like a saint last season and thought he could do no wrong. Last season, people were making all sorts of excuses when I argued that he failed to produce in big matches, and posters like Ollie castigated me for it. Now, he's making the same arguments I did last season!.

And I find it hypocritical that some of the unfair criticisms against RVP made in this thread (that he doesn't want to train) are getting a free reign, while the (IMO) more relevant criticisms I made last season were treated as blasphemy. I know people will say it's because he's now wanting to leave so he's become a villain, but this lack of consistency makes it hard to get a debate going tbh.

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I doubt he's refused to train, given that he's going to Germany and we actually saw him in training before we went off on the Asia tour. Personally, like I said before I don't think losing him will be a big loss at all, and I expect him to flatter to deceive at Old Trafford, but there's some revisionism going on here re: RVP, from people who treated him like a saint last season and thought he could do no wrong. Last season, people were making all sorts of excuses when I argued that he failed to produce in big matches, and posters like Ollie castigated me for it. Now, he's making the same arguments I did last season!.

And I find it hypocritical that some of the unfair criticisms against RVP made in this thread (that he doesn't want to train) are getting a free reign, while the (IMO) more relevant criticisms I made last season were treated as blasphemy. I know people will say it's because he's now wanting to leave so he's become a villain, but this lack of consistency makes it hard to get a debate going tbh.

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your arguments that he was shit, when he had scored 44 goals in 45 games etc, was what i castigated you for because quite frankly they were moronic arguments

the reason he deserves no defending and utter hatred is because of that statement. no club captain does thtat. if he had come otu and just said i dont want to renew and left it at that then fine, easy to deal with but that statement was vile and showed exactly what he is. loyal to only himself and wanting his way and at all costs

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your arguments that he was shit, when he had scored 44 goals in 45 games etc, was what i castigated you for because quite frankly they were moronic arguments

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You also defended him against my claim that he didn't score in the big games against the big teams, and yet you repeat the same argument a few posts back.

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when I failed to argue that he did not produce in big matches

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i remember that

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So the fact remains that RVP doesn't want to play for arsenal anymore.

So let's cut the crap and hope the club sells him ASAP for as much money as possible.

At the end of the day we support Arsenal FC not RVP FC.

Let's support the players that actually want to be here and play for the shirt.

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you know what im coming to terms with rvp leaving and now cazorla has arrived my reluctance to let him go has dwindled.

rvp was critical for us last year and i dont think the signings of podolski + giroud on its own was enough to replace him. however, now we've bought cazorla it completely changes the picture. we've suddenly got plenty more creativity in our attack. lets not forget the reason rvp was hugely monumental last season was because we had noone else to open up the opposition defence. the signing of cazorla, alongside giroud and the pod, means the burden of weight is now shared.

while signing only podolski and giroud would not have offset the loss of rvp, i think podolski, giroud and cazorla does. so he can fuck off.

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You also defended him against my claim that he didn't score in the big games against the big teams, and yet you repeat the same argument a few posts back.

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no my argument was more that he was injured so didnt produce in the big games. you argue he doesnt score agianst big teams, he has goals against spurs, chelsea, liverpool, newcastle, united last year. big teams there.

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no my argument was more that he was injured so didnt produce in the big games. you argue he doesnt score agianst big teams, he has goals against spurs, chelsea, liverpool, newcastle, united last year. big teams there.

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But you can't have it both ways, either he was injured in the big games or he has regularly scored in the big games. You can't be injured while also scoring in the most important matches of the season.

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so you say united stand by their old players and look after them and we dont then dimiss the fact that we actually give injury prone players a chance, clichy, rvp, diaby etc, we stood by them all through their problems. we stood by rvp through his rape case, we gave him eveything we could to make sure he could succed. he then throws it back in our face.

you say who wants to look back at their career with no trophies, but where was van persie when we needed to win stuff, where was he during the finals we have been in? injured most of the time, just because we dont win stuff doesnt mean the players arent to blame, we lost the cc final two years ago, the players are too blame there, i am fed up with this bullshit from players saying i want to win stuff and acting as if they are free from blame for not winning with the club they leave

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Originally Posted by Joker

I doubt he's refused to train, given that he's going to Germany and we actually saw him in training before we went off on the Asia tour. Personally, like I said before I don't think losing him will be a big loss at all, and I expect him to flatter to deceive at Old Trafford, but there's some revisionism going on here re: RVP, from people who treated him like a saint last season and thought he could do no wrong. Last season, people were making all sorts of excuses when I argued that he failed to produce in big matches, and posters like Ollie castigated me for it. Now, he's making the same arguments I did last season!.

And I find it hypocritical that some of the unfair criticisms against RVP made in this thread (that he doesn't want to train) are getting a free reign, while the (IMO) more relevant criticisms I made last season were treated as blasphemy. I know people will say it's because he's now wanting to leave so he's become a villain, but this lack of consistency makes it hard to get a debate going tbh.

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Ollie has lost his mind. Just look at this.....