Winter Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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Originally Posted by JonasTC

I think he's a complete striker, his strongest site are definitely his ability to find space, he's fast enough to get behind the defenders and strong enough to hold them off, with all our creative midfielders he'll be getting fed all day in good positions, the way we cant do with Giroud. My only worries tho, is that he doesnt give a fuck on the field, he'll dive, he'll get into the refs face, start trouble with whoever, but it seems its getting better this season in that area.

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That's similar to what I've read about him. The complete forward. But I have my doubts. I haven't seen many goals where he's fashioned out his own chance on goal besides one. He really reminds me of Ade. He looks strong and a handful but I wonder what he'd be like when space is limited and we're struggling to open teams. Doesn't seem like the sort of guy that will unleash a wonder shot or great and inch of space for himself to get that pin point accurate goal. Maybe I haven't seen enough of him. They say his movement is great, he works the channels and bullies defenders. That sounds promising.

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Originally Posted by Özim

I'd say he didn't work out because he not very good in the the end, he's not done anything of note since those goals, his finishing is very average, but he was unproven as well.

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And that's my worry. Like Ade and Baptista, this could be a great run of form. Time will tell.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

And that's my worry. Like Ade and Baptista, this could be a great run of form. Time will tell.

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That's the reason I have my reservations too, yes he's scoring at the moment but his career record doesn't show a guy with a great scoring record, that doesn't mean he won't keep scoring but it means he's a big risk, unlike someone like Falcoa who has scored goals for years.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

That's similar to what I've read about him. The complete forward. But I have my doubts. I haven't seen many goals where he's fashioned out his own chance on goal besides one. He really reminds me of Ade. He looks strong and a handful but I wonder what he'd be like when space is limited and we're struggling to open teams. Doesn't seem like the sort of guy that will unleash a wonder shot or great and inch of space for himself to get that pin point accurate goal. Maybe I haven't seen enough of him. They say his movement is great, he works the channels and bullies defenders. That sounds promising.

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Spot on, I agree with you, he doesn't seem to be the kind of player who is going to score a goal out of nothing when you're struggling.

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Originally Posted by Özim

JonasTC said people said he's better than Falcoa.

It's not bad yes, one in every 2 or so, but I saw him a number of times last season and wasn't really that impressed to be honest.

Before last season his record was poor as well. RVP was different, like Torres and Aguero he has much more to his game, his ability was there to see at 20, not the case with Costa.

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I don't really get that last line unless you are referring to RvP?

So Costa had 1 in 2 in the previous 2 seasons and now he has 1 in every 1. So your argument can only be a qualitative one. Any marginalising of his scoring record is quite silly. But if you watch him and don't think he's all that then fair enough.

However regardless of that, IF (and of course it is a big IF) a player scores a goal in every game for you then he is absolutely worth his weight in goal. It's not all about goals , but they are what tend to win you games and particularly important in tight games.

All I'll say is, it does seem to be easier to score goals in Spain. There's a long list of players who've struggled here, but flourished over there.

I haven't seen enough of this Costa fella to pass judgement.

Out of interest, who do you think we should be going for Ozim?

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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice

I don't really get that last line unless you are referring to RvP?

So Costa had 1 in 2 in the previous 2 seasons and now he has 1 in every 1. So your argument can only be a qualitative one. Any marginalising of his scoring record is quite silly. But if you watch him and don't think he's all that then fair enough.

However regardless of that, IF (and of course it is a big IF) a player scores a goal in every game for you then he is absolutely worth his weight in goal. It's not all about goals , but they are what tend to win you games and particularly important in tight games.

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The last line was just a response to your comment about RVP's goal record, I know it wasn't great (but he had a lot of injuries), however his ability could never be called into question, he always had sublime skills.

That's not quite right, last season he got 20 in 44 and the season before 9 in 16 (that can't be considered a full season), so although 1 in 2 does apply it's not really 1 in 2 for 2 full seasons. Yes his record is good this season, but I base my opinion on what I've seen of him, I wasn't impressed with him last season and although he's scored a fair few this season I'm still not totally convinced.

He's scored goals for a couple of season in all, before that he didn't score many and I personally don't think he's a player that will win you tight games as he relies on service, if there's no service to him he won't get you a goal unlike the best forwards.

He might turn out to score a hatful from now on, I'm just saying I'm not sure he will based on what I've seen of him and for that reason I think he's a big risk (I could be wrong of course).

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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice

Out of interest, who do you think we should be going for Ozim?

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I don't really see anyone available in January to be honest, if you want top players the summer is the time to get them. Realistically we may have to pay more for a top forward, but 32 million is a hell of a lot for a player who is gamble.

Maybe we missed the boat last summer when numerous top forwards were available, not sure who we can get now.

I wasn't asking you about Costa. Again.

Let me phrase it another way then. Who would you have us target in the summer?