I wouldn't pay £62 to go either. Madness
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I wouldn't pay £62 to go either. Madness
perhaps though if they and chelsea hadnt upped the market by paying stupid money to players in wages and transfers, then clubs wouldnt have to charge more in ticket pricing to keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
oh yes they wouldQuote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
I don't think the two are related, we're a money making club and that's what we're interested in, if it means screwing over the fans so be it. Just look at our ticket prices in relation to clubs that actually win stuff and actually spend money on quality players.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
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Originally Posted by Letters
InterestingQuote:
Alex Song set to be released by Barca after one season?
Posted on December 20, 2012 by admin
Is Alex Song going to be struck by the jinx that seems to destroy many ex-Arsenal players careers after the leave Arsene Wenger’s side? It is being reported that the Cameroonian is expected to leave the Nou Camp this summer after starting only six games so far this season, and falling out of favour with new boss Tito Vilanova.
Song was quite unimpressive many times this season and doesn’t seem to fit into their free-flowing system,epecially when he played in Barca’s embarrassing defeat by Celtic in Scotland during the Champions League Group Stages, and according to the Spanish sports paper AS, he is also happy to leave the Catalan club.
They claim that Song has been talking to the French giants PSG, who are now readying an approach to Barcelona at the end of the season if the 25 year-old is continually sidelined by Vilanova. Perhaps Song will get to play more often if he joins Paris St Germain and can recapture the excellent form he had with Arsenal, or will his career suddenly hit a brick wall like what happened to Alexandre Hleb, Mathieu Flamini, Emmanuel Adebayor and countless others.
Will they never learn………..
the only club we can compare too who win stuff is united. chelsea and city, we can't. they could make all their games free and not worry a thing about loss of revenue because the money doesnt matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
They're probably wondering why they pay peanuts to watch a trophy winning team but have to pay sky high prices for a dogshite team who've won nothing in years.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
We can compare them because the owners still want money coming in from the gates they could charge the highest prices as they have a legitimate reason for doing so, success and transfer spending.....we simply don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
It's like going to McDonalds but paying the same as you would for dinner at the Fat Duck.
Yeah cos we're really keeping up aren't weQuote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Eating at Maccy D's and paying Fat Duck prices ....like the analogy
is that even a surprise? who was it that said he would be in ligue 2 within 3 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
he was the boss man here because he grew up here. it was his home. he had a manager who believed in him and fans that loved him. at barca he's instantly their worse player and by some margin too. their fans will never accept him because he's automatically seen as a B grade player. hopefully it puts barca off in the future when it comes to taking our players.
That isn't their fans fault though, is it. And their own tickets are cheaper, despite.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Fair play to them.
City and Chelsea don't need to raise prices to fund their infinite money cheat, they have sugar-daddies to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
They wouldn't break even if they charged a million pounds a ticket* so they don't deserve any credit (and that sentence could end right there) for not raising prices.
* - not actually true.
That wasn't my main point. More a side issue...and I take your own point on the matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It ain't the Citeh fans fault, however retarded they may be.
£62 is a fucking rip off.
No, it's not City's fans fault.
We deserve criticism for upping our prices so much, City and Chelsea don't deserve any credit for not doing the same. They don't need to.
We do need to although when my hard ( well, sort of :lol:) earned money is going into the pockets of players like Gerhinho and Chammakh, it does grate somewhat.
Going to suggest to dad we don't renew next year, that £1500 a year could go on a very nice holiday and we can still go here and there with red memberships and via various contacts. I'd pay £1500 a year to watch Bergkamp and Henry. This lot, not so much.
Giroud's face alone is worth the entry fee :loveblush:
It's misleading to assume that our prices are so exorbitant purely because of City's spending. We've had high ticket prices for a very long time, well before the Sheikh took over. And in any case, it's not as if our wage bill is actually low is it? Dross gets paid so much that we're unable to off-load them. You can argue we're only paying these players such wages because of City distorting the market, but like I said in the Match thread we did pay Sol Campbell £100K back in 2001, so no club is whiter than white.
City's owners have played a part yes, but the people who own our club know that football fans' loyalty makes it very easy to raise prices without a significant fall in demand, especially given our supporters in general are more affluent than those in the North and Midlands (however this then prices out the less well off). If City and Chelsea didn't get taken over, we'd still see ticket price inflation significantly above general inflation.
Sol's wage was artificially high because of the huge signing-on fee. We don't even pay anyone that much now.
Realistically though the owners still want money back on their investment so they're basically charging what they think is a fair price, unlike us so they do deserve some credit....they could just rip off the fans as well (and would have a better case to do so than us).Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I don't think they do. Abramovic is NEVER going to get his money back, nor are the people who own City.
I don't think they care. They've got more money than God, they're playing a real-life game of fantasy football, having a bit of fun.
'Cos they can.
Ambrobitch wrote most of the debt of through equity a couple years back as did Man City, so it is not a question of making their money back.
To say the owners of those clubs deserve 'credit' is taking the complete and utter piss.
Abramovich is a genius.
:Cascarino:
I think I actually agree with Joker on this, well to an extent, the ticket prices will keep rising just like our wages will keep rising. There is only one choice to make if you can't justify the cost and the Citeh fans have made that decision. And it's fair enough because it's not just £62, you'll have to add at least another £40 on top of that for travel and then you need to have food also.
But you can't just say he's just writing the money off, he cares about get some back otherwise why bother ever increasing prices?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Clearly in the future they want their clubs to be financial powerhouses, they may not get their money back now but in the long term if the clubs become big enough they'll become a licence to print money with the potential in the Asian market for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
I posted in another thread my dad has paid £125.15 for a ticket to watch the lolerhoof game :lol:
It's just a normall seat in the upper tier :lol:
madness.
I also find it unfair where the away allocation is, that home fans should be in the lower corner and move the away fans to the upper tier to provide the cheaper tickets for the home supporters.
Other than Wenger of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Football clubs are businesses. It's simple supply and demand to raise prices to what the market will bear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
I don't believe he sees Chelsea as a charity and will fund it completely, even he couldn't afford to do that indefinitely, of course he's going to get what money back he can. I don't think he ever expects to see all his money back either though and I don't think he wants to.
He's bought the CL and a load of other trophies, hooray, well done him! I think the reflected glory of that is what he's interested in, I don't think he's expecting to see a profit from it.
I may be wrong of course, but that's how I've always seen it.
they will not be claiming back a billion plus in dividends at any point in the future - so forget any idea of a profit. roman is not in it for that clearly - you just have to look at his employment policy to understand this is just a toy for him and chelsea fans are finally waking up to that fact too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
and credit? for ruining the game and creating an even bigger division between those 'with' and those 'without'? no thanks, i'm not about to pat any business man on the back whose only interest is to ruin the game i love for their gain. i don't have a huge problem with the money being spent as it takes far more than that to sustain success (although it makes it a lot easier) but i won't be congratulating any of them either.
these are business men, not football men, so as far as i'm concerned they can foad.
I was more interested in the ticket prices argument, we don't really have a leg to stand on on that issue...we charge the most and deliver the least of all the top clubs, both in terms of transfer spend and results/success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Our model isn't one of "football men" either, football didn't use to be about not giving a sh*t about what happens on the pitch and only caring about what's coming into the bank, I hate our model and nothing about it gives me any satisfaction at all, at least the fans at those clubs with mega rich owners gets something back for their money, we get nothing but BS and patronising opinions.
i wouldn't dream of using our directors as the shining light of football fans in the boardroom - they are ****s, absolute massive ****s of the highest order running my club into the ground for their gain. although, the idea they are hiding behind is the correct one.
i believe ticket prices would have continued to go through the roof without these guys anyway, simply because of the way the premiership has been marketed over the past 20 years and everyone wants to grab as much money as they can.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/reserves...28News+Feed%29
Bendtner has changed since he went to Juve.
He has had a lot of time to work on his tan, tbf.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-OFFICIAL.html
Arsenal :bow:
Interesting discussion on Sunday Supplement about the flaws of Arsenal's socialist wage structure. Nothing we haven't discussed on here of course but interesting nonetheless. I'm convinced Letters is that Barclay fella.
Someone got me an Arsenal desk calendar for Christmas. The photo for May is Alex Song.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
I told everyone that I didn't want any Arsenal products this year.
:lol: So did I. Not everyone got the memo.
I even made a last minute request to Santa to make a change on one of my son's presents. He got no Arsenal merchandise this year.
:good:
Just didn't want to put any further money in that **** of a yank's pockets.
Oh dear. :lol:
Little bit embarrassing.