Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

If he said that he should be sacked.

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http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...to-new-signing

His "waiting period" excuse is tiresome, every other club seems to manage to find players all summer, he has to wait until we're a month into the season giving players no time to get use to the club and teammates, joker.

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Originally Posted by Özim

His "waiting period" excuse is tiresome, every other club seems to manage to find players all summer, he has to wait until we're a month into the season giving players no time to get use to the club and teammates, joker.

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'Ve are working very hard, waiting.'

Western Ireland far more attractive than Manchester for Neymar after all

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34074211

Can anyone tell me how DeBryune is a 60m pound player? have i missed his WPOTY wards or his CL medals recently?

Wolfsburg rightly shafting a club overflowing with owner and TV money.

Why else is Stones being rated at £30m+ and Berahino £20m+? These clubs that hoarde talent and rip the best away from burgeoning teams deserve to have the arse ripped out of them.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Wolfsburg rightly shafting a club overflowing with owner and TV money.

Why else is Stones being rated at £30m+ and Berahino £20m+? These clubs that hoarde talent and rip the best away from burgeoning teams deserve to have the arse ripped out of them.

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They are so rich the money is irrelevant, they want THEIR toy to be the bestest eva! Anyone else thinking the fair play money thing in retrospect had curbed a little of this sort of shit, or just my tired mind?

Our transfer dealings have been completed. Cech will be our one and only signing. I doubt even sky sports will bother with someone reporting from London Colney this time round. Its sad, because we aren't that far away from being a serious title challenging side, I juts don't get what the club are thinking leaving it like this.

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Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72

Our transfer dealings have been completed. Cech will be our one and only signing. I doubt even sky sports will bother with someone reporting from London Colney this time round. Its sad, because we aren't that far away from being a serious title challenging side, I juts don't get what the club are thinking leaving it like this.

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Club has left it to the modern Jesus Christ of Arsenal aka Wenger to sort stuff out. Like they said "When wenger has a plan, we back it OR else we STFU and twiddle our arse holes"

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Originally Posted by Injury Time

They are so rich the money is irrelevant, they want THEIR toy to be the bestest eva! Anyone else thinking the fair play money thing in retrospect had curbed a little of this sort of shit, or just my tired mind?

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FFP seemed to be working. Then the shysters got involved and fat bastards like Martin Samuel were hired to pretend the restrictions were killing teams like Scunthorpe (he may be a huge bastard who eats pies for a living but he sure is a champion of the little clubs, when convenient). With the shysters threatening to rob him and Samuel threatening to sit on him Platini relented and ran away to FIFA. Upshot, the gypos are back to spunking £150mill per season. It's okay, it's great news for the little clubs.

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Originally Posted by AFC Leveller

Can anyone tell me how DeBryune is a 60m pound player? have i missed his WPOTY wards or his CL medals recently?

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Well City spent £50m on Sterling, so £60m is a bargain for De Bruyne.

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Originally Posted by Injury Time

They are so rich the money is irrelevant, they want THEIR toy to be the bestest eva! Anyone else thinking the fair play money thing in retrospect had curbed a little of this sort of shit, or just my tired mind?

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Basically Platini grew a pair then watched them magically shrink back into his fragile scrotum once it was challenged in the courts. The lawyer who brought about the Bosman was hired by PSG and Citeh's supporter clubs (obviously backed by the clubs who were too ashamed to be the public face) and a fucking agent. So it has basically reverted back to what it was before, the only difference for any debt run up is that it has to be 'secured' by the shareholders. Which in the murky world of finance ruled by imaginary numbers that never translate into real money and the constant manipulation of loop holes and corruption means they can do what they want. So as usual the direction of our game has been decided by a bunch of suits, whose only vested interest is how much money they can suck out of its withering corpse before the whole thing implodes and they move on to the next economic boom.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

FFP seemed to be working. Then the shysters got involved and fat bastards like Martin Samuel were hired to pretend the restrictions were killing teams like Scunthorpe (he may be a huge bastard who eats pies for a living but he sure is a champion of the little clubs, when convenient). With the shysters threatening to rob him and Samuel threatening to sit on him Platini relented and ran away to FIFA. Upshot, the gypos are back to spunking £150mill per season. It's okay, it's great news for the little clubs.

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FFP wasn't a good ruling IMO. It stops the mega rich from spending but also just protects the status quo. It's impossible for a small club to grow organically these days so outside investment is the best hope they have. Or at least they could demand silly money from the likes of City and Chelsea if they want to poach their best players.

It's a BS rule that just stops the new money clubs from spending silly money but fuckers like Real Madrid, Utd, Barca, etc will get away with inflating the market and spending world record fees as they've always done. If they want fairness andnto protect football, they need to come up with a system that looks after all clubs. Some sort of salary cap or whatever. FFP was bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

FFP wasn't a good ruling IMO. It stops the mega rich from spending but also just protects the status quo. It's impossible for a small club to grow organically these days so outside investment is the best hope they have. Or at least they could demand silly money from the likes of City and Chelsea if they want to poach their best players.

It's a BS rule that just stops the new money clubs from spending silly money but fuckers like Real Madrid, Utd, Barca, etc will get away with inflating the market and spending world record fees as they've always done. If they want fairness andnto protect football, they need to come up with a system that looks after all clubs. Some sort of salary cap or whatever. FFP was bullshit.

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Fairness doesn’t and can’t exist in a capitalist system, which is what drives football now. The focus is primarily on the the winners because that is the only way it can feasibly continue to function, just like the 'real' world we live in.

Inevitably at the other end of the scale that means you have to have losers too, which is what we are increasingly seeing in and outside of the football world. FFP was a brave attempt but one that the courts, kept in the pockets of Governments who are now essentially run by corporations that invest huge amounts into their political campaigns, would never have been able to uphold.

The smaller clubs will continue to be picked apart after a season or two of fleeting ‘success', whilst the corporate clubs slosh around in the swill of their dirty money, continuing to drive up prices on and off the pitch, all in favour of the ‘beautiful game’. Arsenal will be in that club sooner rather than later if it wants to survive, this idea of sustainability is a short term win for the shareholders but in the long term the club will have to be shifted onto a billionaire crook that will eventually leverage huge debt against it.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

FFP wasn't a good ruling IMO. It stops the mega rich from spending but also just protects the status quo. It's impossible for a small club to grow organically these days so outside investment is the best hope they have. Or at least they could demand silly money from the likes of City and Chelsea if they want to poach their best players.

It's a BS rule that just stops the new money clubs from spending silly money but fuckers like Real Madrid, Utd, Barca, etc will get away with inflating the market and spending world record fees as they've always done. If they want fairness andnto protect football, they need to come up with a system that looks after all clubs. Some sort of salary cap or whatever. FFP was bullshit.

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It wasn't ideal but it was a brake until a better solution could be found. Brakes are off now so titles and trophies are once again reserved for the highest bidders. It remains a hilarious contradiction that the majority will not contemplate anarchy as a form of government (as that would automatically result in chaos, apparently) but they are happy to see the real authority in their lives, the economy, in a conveniently anarchic state. Lawyers - creatures that have encoded common sense and charge for the translation. More humour in the fact that if you or I earn more than the guy down the road they have an answer for that, more tax. Never challenged in the court, is it? So what about the concept of a tax on the big spenders and a subsidy extracted from that tax made available to the sensible spenders? Can't do it, of course. It would cramp the style of the capitalists and would therefore get the lawyers' arses twitching again. One rule for us and another for them.

But anyway, well done gypos, another deserved title. Legends.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Fairness doesn’t and can’t exist in a capitalist system, which is what drives football now. The focus is primarily on the the winners because that is the only way it can feasibly continue to function, just like the 'real' world we live in.

Inevitably at the other end of the scale that means you have to have losers too, which is what we are increasingly seeing in and outside of the football world. FFP was a brave attempt but one that the courts, kept in the pockets of Governments who are now essentially run by corporations that invest huge amounts into their political campaigns, would never have been able to uphold.

The smaller clubs will continue to be picked apart after a season or two of fleeting ‘success', whilst the corporate clubs slosh around in the swill of their dirty money, continuing to drive up prices on and off the pitch, all in favour of the ‘beautiful game’. Arsenal will be in that club sooner rather than later if it wants to survive, this idea of sustainability is a short term win for the shareholders but in the long term the club will have to be shifted onto a billionaire crook that will eventually leverage huge debt against it.

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Well said. But fairness can exist in a capitalist system underpinned by a functional system of justice. And in fact we need a clean capitalist system to advance as a species, at least in this stage of our evolution. Socialism never cut it anywhere for an extended period of time, mostly because it has always been communism masquerading as socialism (just as the vulture capitalist system is a form of communism). Justice is the issue. Lawyers do everything in their extensive power to ensure it never surfaces. Can't go anywhere or do anything useful while lawyers hold sway.

4 days to go and no credible source that says we're in for anyone. So have we successfully managed to keep our imminent deals secret throughout the summer or are we just sitting on our hands waiting it out with excuses at the ready? Obviously if we don't bring in the players we need then we won't be mounting a serious challenge for this title. But if we fail to act then next summer we'll be hearing stories about bids for Alexis, Ozil, Ramsey. 4 days left to go forward or else backwards we go.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

4 days to go and no credible source that says we're in for anyone. So have we successfully managed to keep our imminent deals secret throughout the summer or are we just sitting on our hands waiting it out with excuses at the ready? Obviously if we don't bring in the players we need then we won't be mounting a serious challenge for this title. But if we fail to act then next summer we'll be hearing stories about bids for Alexis, Ozil, Ramsey. 4 days left to go forward or else backwards we go.

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I don't think Arsene is really that serious about strengthening the squad given his comments on Arsenal.com If they were working hard day and night like he tells us then why didn't/haven't we strengthened before now?

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...ht-on-signings-

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‘We work day and night on signings’

Arsène Wenger says Arsenal are working hard to bring in new players before the close of the transfer window - but admits they are not close to completing a deal.
The Gunners have already strengthened their squad this summer by signing Petr Cech from Chelsea, and Wenger is open to the idea of buying another player should the opportunity arise.

I am always confident that a last-minute situation or solution is available
Arsène Wenger

“I am always confident that a last-minute situation or solution is available, because the transfer market is especially moving in the last four or five days,” he said. “But at the moment I cannot promise you that.
“We have specific targets but sometimes you get an idea from somebody because you didn’t know that the player you like was available and if you get an opportunity you do it.

“We work very hard, you know I have a team around me who work day and night to find good solutions. I am 24 hours available per day, so I am involved in the decision of course, but at the moment we are not close to signing anyone.”

This season’s transfer window closes at the earlier time of 6pm, a day after other European leagues, and Wenger believes this will have an impact.

“Before you had until midnight,” he said. “Maybe it was not very comfortable for the Premier League but it was a bit easier but people adapt to the timing.
“The implications [of the European window shutting a day early] is that on the last day we will be the only ones on the market and not face any competition with the others.”

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

4 days to go and no credible source that says we're in for anyone. So have we successfully managed to keep our imminent deals secret throughout the summer or are we just sitting on our hands waiting it out with excuses at the ready? Obviously if we don't bring in the players we need then we won't be mounting a serious challenge for this title. But if we fail to act then next summer we'll be hearing stories about bids for Alexis, Ozil, Ramsey. 4 days left to go forward or else backwards we go.

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If we don't seriously compete for the league this year, and it's not looking great at the moment, I can't see us keeping hold of Ozil and Sanchez next summer.

I guess we just have to be gulliblepositive and hope the club can sort itself out in the next few days.

OH MY GOD!

http://i.imgur.com/ILuCCy8.jpg

To be fair, we have added 9 players to the first team squad in the last year (Alexis, Debuchy, Ospina, Chambers, Welbeck, Gabriel, Bellerin, Coquelin, Cech), so I do think there's any particular reluctance to invest or improve on the part of the manager or the club? There's just nothing moving out there in the one area that we're seriously looking at.

Maybe you could argue that we're paying the price for not having sorted the striking problem out in previous windows, when there might have been movement, but I'm not really sure what else we could have done this summer, to make things happen? The kind of clubs we're looking at buying from aren't really going to be swayed by cash, or bullied financially - the only thing that's going to persuade them to sell is being able to find a shiny new star player as a replacement, and that's out of our hands. It really is just watch and wait stuff...

Well I agree it would be hard for you or I or some bloke down the road to pull off the type of transfers we need. But we supposedly are a club competing at the forefront of the game, with a supposedly top manager who in turn has a whole staff of experienced people to solve our striker and midfield problem over a period of what was 2 months. Is it good enough to say it's difficult? Of course it is, their job is difficult. Are they saying they can't get the job done unless it is easy?

You're right, we have brought in a lot of players. Most of them have been required following a long period of doing nothing significant in the market, in fact we were a selling club. But even with all the repair work that has been done we are still short in critical areas. This needs to be addressed or we can't challenge. Fair enough, if we don't intend to step up and join the top clubs (as promised when the stadium move was sold), then that's how it's going to be but we can't expect to hang on to the top players we have if we aren't prepared to add the final pieces. That's what I'm saying, we either press on and fulfil the stated goal of this stadium move or we stall and start falling backwards. With all the new TV money coming in Wenger won't be able to hold that cherished 4th spot forever, standing still isn't a realistic option.

Whatever, they have 4 days to let us know their intentions. It is the club that has left itself with such a short window, so while it may be difficult they certainly haven't made it easier on themselves. If easy is what they are after.

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Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm

OH MY GOD!

http://i.imgur.com/ILuCCy8.jpg

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FFS did you not notice...this in the wrong thread! Benzema thread over there, better change title to (Official)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...s-sign-6340867

striker position finally sorted

don't know what the fuss is all about tbh

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Originally Posted by Maestro

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...s-sign-6340867

striker position finally sorted

don't know what the fuss is all about tbh

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Oh he's been wanking day and night on that signing :rolleyes: :ilt:

wahoo, another one for the future.......


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So Arsenal leaving it until deadline day again......

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Originally Posted by selassie

I don't think Arsene is really that serious about strengthening the squad given his comments on Arsenal.com If they were working hard day and night like he tells us then why didn't/haven't we strengthened before now?

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...ht-on-signings-

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Wenget really is contemptuous with the fans sometimes, and quite simply insults our intelligence or lack thereof.

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Originally Posted by selassie

I don't think Arsene is really that serious about strengthening the squad given his comments on Arsenal.com If they were working hard day and night like he tells us then why didn't/haven't we strengthened before now?

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...ht-on-signings-

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Day and night my arse, he waits until August the 31st to do anything it seems, every season it's the same the guy is a sad excsue for a manager.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Wolfsburg rightly shafting a club overflowing with owner and TV money.

Why else is Stones being rated at £30m+ and Berahino £20m+? These clubs that hoarde talent and rip the best away from burgeoning teams deserve to have the arse ripped out of them.

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Eggsackerly

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Originally Posted by AFC Leveller

:lol:

I cannot belive you guys think that is real!

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They've had less time to evade your spoofs than some of us! :d

I'm convinced we'll buy Austin on Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by Kano

I'm convinced we'll buy Austin on Tuesday.

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Yep, I expect a totally underwhelming panic buy too. Especially if he's cheap.

Mind you, Wenger was blathering on about Wilshere and Welbeck being back soon so that's going to make a huge difference and we'll probably win the league. Might not need to sign anybody at all. And it would kill Joel Campbell.

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Originally Posted by Kano

I'm convinced we'll buy Austin on Tuesday.

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Austin Healey, the former rugby player.

Yarmulenko will do - anyone tbh. Anyone who can kick a ball towards the net whilst trying to miss the keeper.

I remember at the end of last season and the beginning of summer hoping that we would do a straight swap of Walcott for Sterling. How I wish that were true!!!

Walcott brings nothing to the table up front against most teams. He'll score a hattrick in one of the games and all will be well. He is much better on the wing.. I hope we stick him there or on the bench. He wont put his weight unless his contract is up in the air.

Welbeck is due back after the international break so that is like a new signing. So I am expecting to sign a 17yo Spanish midfielder or nothing as obviously no one is available for the price you want to pay. If you went to a supermarket with that attitude you would go very hungry.

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Originally Posted by Bumble

Welbeck is due back after the international break so that is like a new signing. So I am expecting to sign a 17yo Spanish midfielder or nothing as obviously no one is available for the price you want to pay. If you went to a supermarket with that attitude you would go very hungry.

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That's where you are wrong and naive. Have you never seen those huge green things at the back of supermarkets? Inside those are a thousand Sanogos waiting to be dug out and hosed off.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

That's where you are wrong and naive. Have you never seen those huge green things at the back of supermarkets? Inside those are a thousand Sanogos waiting to be dug out and hosed off.

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haha. I stand corrected

we should buy wanyama.