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Did you see it on the side of a bus? :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
I guess it's all relative, is 25 million expensive to the average man on the street, yes it is, is it expensive in football where money is moving around in huge amounts, no definitely not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Sounds to me like a re-hashed version of the Wenger "1 or 2 players" of "super super quality".
The players we've been linked with so far have not been expensive other than Zaha, who we can't afford anyway and even if we could wouldn't make sense as his value would have plummeted in a couple years when he's getting close to 30.
If we want to spend big money we should spend it on younger players who's value will only rise like Liverpool have done.
Incidentally Aubameyang will have one year left on his contract next summer, think Lacazette will too, anyone seen any new contracts handed out yet, or are we just going to let them walk away cut price or for nothing again?
Meanwhile West Ham spend 45 million on Haller.
Good point you have to hope they're sticking to Raul's plan and having the negotiations quietly and sensibly behind closed doors...Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
....no, me neither... :rolleyes:
Delphi went to Everton for 8.5 million he other day. Said he aims to win things. Bless him.
Trippier joins Atleti.
An English player abroad. :faint:
Say we do actually sign some players. Would signing Everton Soares, Kieran Tierney, William Saliba (and Ceballos on Loan) make for a good haul for the summer? Feels like we'd be missing a quality CB still at the very least, even if Koscielny stays to see out his contract.
Rose is looking to leave too, he’s been left out of their tour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I knew they’d be looking to recoup some of that money they spent on that midfielder.
I think with limited opportunities we’ll see more young players playing abroad now. Different mentality to the old lot. Especially after seeing Sancho.
I really want to see Ozil, Kos, Mustafi, Elneny, Monreal and Jenkinson leave.
I'd be happy if there is only a replacement for 3 or 4 of those.
It would be good riddance to 6 players who are either crap or too old.
Ornstein says Saliba deal almost done, Tierney ongoing along with the Ceballos loan.
It would leave us a ‘now’ CB and a backup RB short of totally a successful summer, although I’d still be very happy with each of those players in their own right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unai Tea
CB is an interesting one for me - we could definitely do with an upgrade in personnel there, but I also think a lot of our calamitous defending was down to a flawed shape and bad pairings in CM, which we might be able to address with some of the above?
If we suddenly had proper wingers to choose from and a LB who is comfortable in a back 4 then we might be able to go 433 when defending, which would give us an extra man in midfield? If we add a guy like Cellabos in CM, then maybe we won’t chuck possession away quite so often in front of the CBs? I’d still like the extra CB, but it might - might - be enough to see us muddle through to the next window?
Holding is back in full training, so he’ll be like a new signing
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unai Tea
Saliba wouldn't be here for next season if he was it might have been different, Ceballos I'm sceptical about, when was the last time a Madrid youngster left the club and was actually much good? Watching you tube the compilations just show him passing a bit, dodging the odd defender and having the odd shot, reminds me of Denis Suarez in that respect, so for me I just don't think he's right, would prefer someone like Fekir.
Everton looks decent with some good ball skills, so looks like he would be a decent signing.
In my eyes we won't have fixed much, the defence was shocking last season and if we're going to rely on pretty much the same bunch we're not going to get anywhere, on top of that we've not got rid of Mustafi, Ozil, Jenkinson, Monreal, Xhaka so the team isn't going to be that different, on top of that we're left with no wingers except from last years lot who aren't up to scratch.
So in short a pretty average summer, but then again we should be use to it, when do we ever do anything right in the transfer window?
You forgot Tierney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
As much as I'd like to see the underperformers go, seems unrealistic to expect them to get rid of all of them in one window, especially when no one is exactly knocking down our doors. I suspect we'll get rid of jenkinson and elneny which helps a little. Monreal is ok as a backup defender with experience and versatility - despite declining physical attributes. The other we were always going to be stuck with unless there was a deus ex machina.
Hopefully if we make these signings, alongside the younger players seemingly being given a chance, we'll get to develop a younger core whose value appreciates, rather than the opposite. Having that core will allow us to get rid of older, under performers over the coming windows (hopefully)
Emery wasn't wrong about signing big players.
https://twitter.com/afcstuff/status/1151595348202274816
Ceballos looks the real deal from what I’ve seen.
Just checked out a few clips of Ceballos, definitely the kind of centre mid we are missing. Sounds like it will be a bit of a coup if we do get him given how rated he is in Spain, and a loan move makes sense given the limit budget and the need to also strengthen other positions. I also have no issues with the Saliba deal if he is as good a prospect as meant to be. As long as we still bring in an older CB this summer as well.
If we do get Ceballos, Tierney, Saliba plus another CB and a winger I think it would be a decent enough summer in terms of incomings. I'm sure we would all love to see some of the deadwood cleared as well but these leeches are going to see out their contracts now. We can thank Arsene and Ivan for that one!
De Ligt has gone to Juve for 75m Euros.
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Originally Posted by LDG
i've seen De Ligt...Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
no? ok... :getcoat:
Juve again signing some of the best players around, you've got to give them credit they're doing what they need to compete for the CL.
The ones I saw weren't that impressive, which is some achievement for youtube as it can generally make most players look brilliant. Like I said very similar to the Suarez clips, nothing outstanding, just some passing the odd shot (some deflected) and some tricks that don't quite come off, not impressed personally, would prefer a Cazorla type player with some decent skills and maybe decent shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
I wouldn't say he's a coup, I mean look at highly Morata was rated and he's rubbish. Personally I think we needed a left back, a right back, a decent CB, a winger and a CM, then we needed to get rid of deadwood.
Its pretty shocking that we don't seem to be able to get rid of players, it's almost unheard of for big clubs not to be, never mind on the the scale that we need to, just shows how poor the transfers have been, noone will touch most of our players!
At least someone got it :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Watched this the other day, some good points!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-XMH-yYjvQ
Talk that Xhaka could be Arsenal captain. Could well be the worst Arsenal captain in the history of Arsenal, the guy should be sold not be made captain. I'd rather make someone like Lacazette or maybe Torreira or Sokratis captain, we don't have a great choice but Xhaka would be the worst of the lot.
If Emery makes him captain, you have to question this guys' judgement.
Let’s face it, it’s been well over a decade since being the Arsenal captain meant anything.
Trouble is, the club isn't going to sell the captain, so it suggests Xhaka is here to stay, yet the guy is utterly inadequate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
YT doesn't tell us anything about a player's quality, whether good or bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
Editing is an art form. Let's not forget that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKutLxFJpBA
Oh yeah. Clubs who spend trucks and trucks of money to try and buy success definitely deserve credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Worked out well for Juve in the CL so far :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
As a character / personality in the dressing room, I can see Xhaka being a decent enough captain - I just don't want to see him as a shoe-in for a starting place each week.
Then again, this is Arsenal we're talking about - if any club is going to give the captaincy to someone who may not play, it's us, so maybe there's some hope there.
Plus Emery does like to have a bout 30 captains, so maybe it doesn't matter.
Yes, certainly better than spending nothing and charging the core of the club the highest prices in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It's clear the self sustainable model is a thing of the past, you move with the times or you get left behind, clearly we're happy to be left behind.
Arsenal is the worst of the worst to be honest, everyone makes money out of the club, the owner has made a fortune, but apparently this is OK and we should turn our nose up are clubs owned by people who are willing to put their own money in.
He's got no character, no fight, he epitomises what's wrong with Arsenal to be honest, players who stay in their comfort zone and don't seem too affected when we lose. A captain should be someone who can lead by example, not someone who watches as the game passes him by.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
Torreira, Lacazette are certainyl far better candidates.
People who thought Wenger was the problem :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
But seriously, I basically agree. We are a mess and that won't change with our current owner.
The pratting around you see from them on social media increasingly annoys me. Stop dicking around with NFL stars and start signing some players and winning more games, you pricks.
I did pay more attention last year as it was Emery's first season but honestly it's all leaving me a bit cold, there's not much to admire about modern football. I wasn't even that fussed we lost the Europa Final. Obviously I wanted us to win but it didn't ruin my day like it would have back in the day.
I agree totally, I’m beyond giving a fuck now. There’s nothing to like about a lot of footballers now. Stan and his maggot son will ruin this club. Until they’re gone, I couldn’t give a toss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It is hard to give a fuck when they so clearly don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72
There used to be some relationship between the club and the fans. We were in it together. Those days have long gone.
The relationship is now customer and business. When I was a member I was always getting emails patting me down for more money.
They know we can't go to the "shop" down the road so the only other option is to become disinterested.
The players often used to come to a club young and develop a real relationship with the club and the fans, now they're obscenely paid mercenaries who will bugger off the first time someone waves and even bigger cheque under their noses.
All a bit sad really. I blame Sky. They promised us "a whole new ball game" and boy did they deliver.
Wenger was a massive problem and in a way he still is because so much of the crap he signed is still here.
Until Arsenal get rid of Ozil, Elneny, Jenks and Mustafi, they will win nothing and not finish in the top 4.
Kos and Monreal are too old as well.
I wish that the season was not starting again in a few weeks.
Why is Emery not freezing Mustafi out ?
Mustafi should be told he has no future here and to find another club.
Arseanl are better off without him, surely someone can be signed to replace him, even if its on loan.
Just get rid of him.
The crap that finished 2 points off of 4th place, 3 points off 3rd, and got to the Europa League final last year?Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
We're nowhere near the level of the top 2. After that there was nothing in it last year.
Although without Ramsey and Kos sulking and no notable new signings looking likely, I am concerned.
He definitely is. As is Mustafi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
No point wasting your energy. He doesn’t even support Arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters