How about giving him a contract when he turns good?
All we've done now is ensure he's gone cos he will want a pay rise come next renewal time which we won't give cos we have a wage structure.
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How about giving him a contract when he turns good?
All we've done now is ensure he's gone cos he will want a pay rise come next renewal time which we won't give cos we have a wage structure.
If you wait until he turns good then you've probably got a 23 yr good Jack Wilshere on your hands with a year left on his deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
He'd be gone.
Handing him a new deal is fine. We don't want him to run down his deal but it shows how silly the club are to give him those wages. I'm pretty sure he'd have accepted £40k - £60k in wages. He's done nothing to earn that and shouldn't be on more than certain long serving senior players. I'm guessing he's on more than Sagna and Rosicky. It's a massive leap in a short period. How long was Song playing for the club and they kept giving him the run around on a new deal? He was a player that was actually hitting his stride. It's very silly and based on the fact that he's English and we're trying to mould a new club mascot. All this talk of potentially being world class and loyalty....let's wait and see. I'm looking at him in a new light with that contract. He needs to up his game and he can't have guys like Ramsey out performing you. I'm sure it's down to match fitness and being out for a year but you take the sour and sweet. He's not playing well and shouldn't be starting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
100 games isn't a handful, he gets treated like some sort of demi God by many despite really having done little to deserve it, if he wasn't English noone would give a t*ss about him to be honest. Before he comes out with these threats about possibly leaving if Wenger is forced out maybe he should get his facts right and actually make sure people respect him as a footballer for what he's done!Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
He talks a bit too much for my liking, on twitter, to the press etc....he already think he's made it in the big time, if he concentrated on his football a bit more maybe he'd be a bit better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
So far he's basically picking up the ball and running into brick walls, he does barely any constructive, I don't expect miracles but I do expect a bit more end product than he delivers, he gets an easy ride compared to others tbh.
One game proves little because every player has one really good game, we can go back to Diaby in the CC final 6 years ago now, we've had plenty of young "stars" and where are most of them now, if he wasn't English noone would have given him a 2nd look to be honest, he basically got a big contract off the back of hype and what's most worrying is his opinion of himself which this htreat to the fans highlights......how dare he tell the fans how they should feel, apparently he thinks AW always wins, well maybe he should go and check out out history in the last 8 years to see how much he's actually won before spouting cr*p.
Well if he's the die hard Gooner we all think he is it shouldn't be a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
That's the thing, he isn't, he's a Wengerite and who really wants those around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We've seen how long it's taken Ramsey to really come into form from his injury, he's now 22 amd showing us what he can do. Lets not write jack off that he won't be any good after injuries given he was out for a year them had an injury hit season last year. We all saw how good he was in 2011, he will get better.
It's clear on the pitch he gives everything, after every game wether it's a win draw or loss, he goes around the pitch clapping the fans, he cares about this club or he wouldn't do that. He'd walk off like everyone else. But I guess for some, because he supports wenger, he needs to go and is clearly shit, some people need to take the blinkers off. It's fine to debate jacks ability, but some seem to be skating him purely because he supports wenger amd they don't
It's hypocritical to announce your undying love for a club and then say that if Wenger were to leave you'd have to consider his position.
Firstly that's not loyalty to the club or the fans, secondly it seems he thinks he's some sort of big shot, as for clapping the fans...meaningless when you come out with sh*t like this, but then to be fair he doesn't come across as the brightest.
As for his ability on the pitch, I think he's been overhyped and right now he's a disappointment on the pitch and well down the pecking order based on what he does there.
Some of these guys get hyped beyond belief, I guess it's because he's English I've yet to really see anything to justify that hype.
Van Persie claimed to have undying love for this club, I don't see you having a go at him for leaving :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsene Wonga
Jacks a kid, and a lot of pressure was placed on his shoulders from a young age, not by us solely either, but by the media claiming he is England's saviour. Fans need a hero, and in a time when players were jumping ship, he stood out and fans latched onto him, of course he will make slip ups interviews but the clapping fans is meaningless? Bollocks, you don't lose a game like villa then walk the whole way round the pitch clapping the fans while everyone else walked off if you don't care about the fans or the club.
He's incredibly talented, he will be world class if he stays injury free. That season in 2011 he was unbelieavble and was only 18/19. Don't write him off now after two injury hit seasons.