i already was - a lot - but this certainly doesn't help...Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
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i already was - a lot - but this certainly doesn't help...Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
This is coming from the bloke who does NOT want Kroenke to put some of his own money in.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
I support Arsenal but I am a realist first and foremost.
You're a moany arse, is what you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
You previously said it would be a "miracle" if we finished top 4 or won a trophy this season despite the fact that last season we were 2 points away from top 4 and got to a European cup final so were close to landing a pretty major trophy and finishing in the top 4. We nearly did both last year, how is it suddenly a "miracle" if we do either?
Being a realist is understanding that we have no change of the title for the foreseeable and with our owner we are going to struggle to get any closer to the biggest trophies, not the hyperbole you spout about how terrible everything is.
We nearly did both means we actually did neither.
I cannot see any cause for optimism about anything to do with Arsenal at the moment.
Lets not get into name calling.
Zaha has told Palace he wants to leave.
Arsenal have improved their bid to £40,000,001
£40,000,000 too much.
Correct. But we were close enough to doing both to suggest that your assertion that it would be a “miracle” if we do either is a bit of a stretch. Although I do agree there isn’t much cause for optimism, I think you’re somewhat overstating how bad things are. Apologies for the name callingQuote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
Well looks like the Saliba deal had been done. https://www.skysports.com/football/n...william-saliba
Yes unfortunately he won't be available next season, so in terms of signings right now it doesn't help us at all, it's one for next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
It's great to get these guys lined up, but we also need players now.
Still bemused by this. We’re taking a punt on a CB at 18 for a large amount of money when he won’t be ready for the PL for at least a few years. Can’t think of any 19/20 year olds in that position who have come into the league and held down a regular place.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
Maybe the thinking is that this signing will either 1) spur Mustafi on to play like a proper defender or 2) leave as he will be replaced but giving him a year to think on itQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Heard a stat the other day that West Ham’s new striker is their 39th in 9 years :lol:
A bit worried, that if he is not ready to play for us (?) what is going to change in a year....
Still, he must be some talent if we are paying so much for someone so obscure.
Or the thinking is they believe, rightly or wrongly, that he's a young but talented player who can become a key contributor for us over the next 10 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
Not particularly thrilled at us spending a huge chunk of our budget on a kid that we won’t even see for another year, but at least we could be future proofing ourselves if he’s any good.
We’ll still be useless at the back next season though unless we sign some players for now. Mustafi cannot be leading the line come August...
I'm not sure that we have spent anything from this years budget on him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think it is a small fee to secure him now and then we pay for him next season when his loan is up.
Oh in that case fair enough.
I have seen a tweet that Bordeux have agreed a £7.5m deal for Elneny
Palace have supposedly reignited their interest in Jenkinson :coffee:
Straight swap for ZahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang
Or just say our valuation of Jenkinson is £40m. Job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Some folks saying option to buy after loan for that real fella....
OK, i thought that Bordeaux might be going for him ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang
He'd be a good utility player for Palace, tbh i think some Arsenal fans have been a bit harsh on him, though I agree that ultimately he's probably not really our desired standardQuote:
Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang
I think it’s more about being aghast that such mediocre player has managed to last so long with us.
Even he probably can’t believe his luck at how’s he’s managed to steal a living.
The kid looks the real deal to me, so if the player himself isn’t ready to move yet it’s probably just because he hasn’t got his head around it all yet (I don’t think he was even in St Etienne’s first team 6 months ago, so it’s a lot of changes for an 18yo to process in a very short space of time).Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Or maybe it’s got nothing to do with the player? From what I’ve read, a lot of St Etienne’s insistence on the immediate loan back is because they have ambitions of their own, and believe they have a better chance of achieving them with him than without him.
As you say, the fee is encouraging - you don’t put that kind of money up for a teenager unless you’re pretty sure they’re going to be something special (esp. when you’re on a tight budget). Feels more like the sort of thing United used to do with Rooney, Ronaldo, etc than what we’ve come to expect from Arsenal when we recruit young players?
Off topic. I have just read that Villa have already spent 100m :wacko: WTFQuote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
L'Equip and a couple of other sites in europe are reporting that we have bid £80m Euros for Pepe :blink:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/18/liver...pepe-10412767/
It’s not really surprising when you think about it? The promoted clubs will be jumping from Chamionship money to EPL TV money, they’ll be able to get more for all of their other commercial deals due to their new status, and all of their existing players will be on Chanpionship wages - if spending rules are now based on annual operating costs vs income then the gulf between costs and income that the promoted clubs will have to work with will be absolutely enormous compared to the rest of us!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
Give it a year or two and they’ll have maxed it out on more expensive players and wages, same as the rest of us.
Even after he’s starting his 10th game for us in the middle of November, I’m not sure I’ll believe it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang
Yeah, Villa only scraped into the PL after all, they definitely need to get some more quality in there to surviveQuote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
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Originally Posted by I am invisible
Bale has apparently been offered £1m a week to play in China. :blink:
Playing what? Dr Zaius?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Ceballos deal about to be agreed it seems.
Still talk about this Everton Soares dude but not sure how genuine that is.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Apparently we're going to sign that kid Ceballos from Real on loan, hopefully he's nothing like Suarez who was hopeless, but at least he's on loan so we can ship him back to Real at the end of the loan, in fact we won't have much choice in all probability as I think there's no option to buy, he's just on loan (we're like some Championship side who can't afford anybody so needs to take them on loan).
The 40 million budget isn't sounding too far off now, we're buying Saliba for next season so we won't have to pay much up front, this Ceballos guy look like he's coming for nothing, we don't seem interested in CBs at all, Tierney if that ever happens we're negotiating with Celtic on how much of the 25 million we pay up front. Then there's Zaha who we're trying to get but want to offer allsorts to Palace to reduce the fee (don't think this one will happen), or Everton Suarez who shouldn't cost too much.
Pretty poor show really to have so little money, the likes of West Ham don't seem to have a problem spending and yet we're struggling. The fact we haven't shifted any deadwood so far is also very concerning, looks like we've got at least another season of calamitous defending and players who don't work hard enough or care. Hearing Emery talking about making Xhaka captain is also a bit of a worry, becoming more and more concerned about this guys' decision making, but then he wasn't exactly that great at PSG either, coming 2nd to Monaco in the league with the resources at his disposal was a shocker, as was that thrashing by Barca when PSG we're 4-0 up in the CL and then of course last season.
I don't think any loan signing could be as useless as Suarez was. :lol:
At least Ceballos will have longer to make an impact.
Hopefully there is some truth to these Everton rumours, he seems like the tricky winger our attacks needs.
Who knows if he's any good to be honest, as I said before Reals' youth setup isn't anything special, they buy the talent in they don't really develop it, so he may not be anything special.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Even if he is though, it's a one season loan with no option to buy, so he'll go back to Real, not exactly great if you're trying to build a team.
Everton looks good, Zaha isn't coming (a good thing) as Palace have said he's not leaving and we're not going to stump up the cash, we're just wasting all summer as we usually do pursuing a deal that won't happen, I reckon it's one of those PR stunts.
Hope we get Everton, he's a better option IMO and has a eye for goal.