Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I'm not one to really get bogged down with transfer fees but I do baulk a bit at the thought of spending 50m or whatever on Morata. He's come up with a couple of memorable goals but he's not proven to be very prolific at all, which is disappointing considering how dominant Juve are. He's still young and I'm sure there's plenty of potential, but surely we can find ourselves a better striker if we're prepared to spend that much? Because if we do spend that much, we can be sure that's our lot.

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I think Morata is very overrated, he's not the type of player we need, we need someone ready to deliver goals not some overhyped, overpriced wannabe who hasn't really impressed that much.

Waste of money IMO.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

They want £50mill for a very average joe who isn't worth half that much. Morata is way overpriced too, I'd even back Wenger if he baulked at the price tag on either of these. There must be plenty of genuine top quality strikers out there if we are hunting in the £50mill bracket. Question though, are we? We're all throwing £50mill names around, whether they are worth it or not, but Wenger probably has a very different idea on what he wants to spend.

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Agree, we need to do better than those players, one is a clumsy oaf, the other straight from the Madrid hype machine, was touted as the next big thing yet they shipped him out because he wasn't delivering, hardly pulling any trees out at Juve either, a bit like Walcott there's this illusion he's something special.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Agree, we need to do better than those players, one is a clumsy oaf, the other straight from the Madrid hype machine, was touted as the next big thing yet they shipped him out because he wasn't delivering, hardly pulling any trees out at Juve either, a bit like Walcott there's this illusion he's something special.

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I don't think there's been any illusion about Walcott for some time now!

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Originally Posted by Gooner23

I don't think there's been any illusion about Walcott for some time now!

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He's had 10 good years thanks to the illusion, not a bad career and payday all built on smoke and mirrors

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Originally Posted by I am invisible

His goal is actually better when you look at minutes played instead of number of games featured in - I get the feeling Juventus have been a little reluctant to make him an integral member of the side while this buyback clause is still in play. He seems to play second fiddle to Dybala and Mandzulic, and is often used in more of a supporting role, either behind the main striker or on the wing?

That being said, I'm not sure I see a 50-60m player there - sounds like a massive premium being paid for his age and potential (and Madrid recouping their buyback fee on top of a healthy profit).

I don't know... I think I'm starting to like the look / sound of him, after being a little bit "meh" to begin with? Reminds me a little bit of van Prick in terms of stature and all-round playing style. But man... 50m clams! (Or more!) The club and the manager had better know what they're doing for that kind of money!

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Yeah, I find it strange he's not ahead of Mandzukic, I'll be honest i've not seen loads of Morata recently, only in CL and he's been very good in that to be fair, not so much this season, the season before he was excellent for Juve when they reached the final, he destroyed a lot of decent teams in the knockout games.

I rate him and think he has the potential to be top class but I'm not sure if we should take a risk on him.

If he has a decent Euros for Spain (he starts for them) I think the decision will be taken out of our hands, he'll either go for big money elsewhere or go back to Real and stay there.

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

he and Manolas are the best CBs on the market.

Manolas is apparently going to United


Per is gone, imo.

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Yeah both of them look very good. I'd be happy with either of them, Manolas is the more composed out of the two, he's developing into a world class CB IMO, we screwed up not buying him first time round when he went to Roma for peanuts a couple of years ago, think he'll go elsewhere for big money now.

I like Koulibaly too, he's strong and very quick, a bit rash at times though.

Morata is average at best. We need a top striker or as close to one as possible and he isn't the player we should be going for.

We can only hope that this is just press horseshit but knowing Wenger - it's on.

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Originally Posted by selassie

Yeah, I find it strange he's not ahead of Mandzukic, I'll be honest i've not seen loads of Morata recently, only in CL and he's been very good in that to be fair, not so much this season, the season before he was excellent for Juve when they reached the final, he destroyed a lot of decent teams in the knockout games.

I rate him and think he has the potential to be top class but I'm not sure if we should take a risk on him.

If he has a decent Euros for Spain (he starts for them) I think the decision will be taken out of our hands, he'll either go for big money elsewhere or go back to Real and stay there.

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No, me either - in fact I've not really seen much of him at all beyond a few clips. I guess one of my issues with him is his playing style doesn't come across as looking that explosive or exciting, but that doesn't mean it isn't functional and effective? Enough sports writers and people who have worked with him seem to be suggesting that there's something special there, and there's certainly a crazy amount of (reported) interest in him! I'd prefer other options (especially at that kind of money), but I'm not going to write him off either...

Where's all this talk of a £20m release clause for Vardy suddenly come from? That's got to be a no-brainer if it's genuine, hasn't it?

If it were true he'd be gone already