Adams hasn't really told us anything we didn't already know. Wenger has always surrounded himself with yes men. He's too stubborn to accept anyone else's opinion.
Not sure there'd be any manager who'd want Tony as his assistant though!
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Adams hasn't really told us anything we didn't already know. Wenger has always surrounded himself with yes men. He's too stubborn to accept anyone else's opinion.
Not sure there'd be any manager who'd want Tony as his assistant though!
Yep, Wenger is a control freak, he has total control of the Technical side at the moment and is in no rush to let go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
He doesn't want players or coaches confronting him or questioning him, those that do he moves on.
It's bizarre it's all tied in with his refusal to get into confrontation
So it seems he wants to avoid confrontation with those who might question his methods
He asked Pat Rice and Steve Bould as a player in the past not to shout at players
Adams said he had to speak to Ian Wright about his timekeeping because Wenger wouldn't do it and instead changed the training sessions to fit around Wrights tardiness.
Considering he spent his entire career at Arsenal and the latter years under Wenger where he should have been making the transition from player to coach, it reflects badly on us too. Maybe Tony could have learned a few things from Arsene and vice versa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Just like the kids that have been developed badly at Arsenal, we’re looking at the other side of the spectrum in terms of former players not learning from Wenger when it comes to coaching.
Don't see how it's Wenger's role to develop players into future coaches or managers.
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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
I think we know that Wenger is not a good coach. However I'm not sure id blame him for Adams lack of development as a coach. Adams may have a lot of knowledge of how to make a side well drilled through his experience as a defender and working under George Graham, but the guy is by his own admission damaged psychologically from his alcoholism and especially somewhere like Granada it's going to be very hard for someone like Adams to relay his wishes and feelings to his players.
I know people that knew Adams personally and that he was very changeable now that was partly as a result of the drink but even after getting on the wagon, he could become very withdrawn and sullen (honestly not trying to get at Adams, but even after 20 years the guy still has a lot of demons).
For what it's worth, I think Adams observations are mostly if not entirely correct and tally in with what other people have said about Wenger, but at the same time it was Wenger who stabilised Adams after he kicked the booze and was in a negative spiral and extended his career (Adams himself acknowledged this).
I don't think Tony Adams is blaming Wenger for his own shortcomings as a coach either, I think he's saying that it wouldn't work because Adams would speak his mind if he saw something wrong.
That's a shortsighted way to look it. It's why we're in the position we're in now. Knowledge should be passed on in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It's not why we're in the position we are now. We're in this position because our manager has stayed too long and has too much power at the club.
If it's true than plenty of managers are guilty of itQuote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Alex Ferguson especially. None of his guys Keane, Bruce, Giggs, Neville have made it that sucessfully as managers.
Again, very short-sighted. The debates we’ve had here about the culture of the club, the lack of leadership we see on the pitch and around the club stems from the club being filled with non-confrontational yes man. Wenger has always been Wenger, but once the big characters left the club, he was left exposed and I believe we should have retained some of those players and not have been so quick to shove them out the door with 1 year contracts once their bodies started to slow down. They still had something to offer this club and we had plenty of former players willing to take that on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Once Wenger goes, it looks like that footballing knowledge goes with him. Is that called a knowledge vacuum? This is why people are so uneasy with Kroenke being left in charge. The football culture has slowly been drained away from the club. If we were looking to Ajax, Bayern and Barca as model examples when starting this Emirates project, we’ve gone about it in the wrong way. Former players have a strong presence at those clubs. What will Wenger leave behind? It’s not just the lack of silverware that has people bitter about the legacy he leaves.