I guess we should slag off Mancini now, for spending money on unknowns. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
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I guess we should slag off Mancini now, for spending money on unknowns. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Sunday Mirror saying we are going to make a £20m bid for Downing :lol:
NOTW says we are after Craig Gordon :doh:
L'Equipe says if Nasri goes, we are looking at Valbuena as a replacement
If we buy Downing, I will change my name to Cripps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Doubt we'll go for Downing. Thats only cos we wont pay £20m for anyone. Downing is certainly shit enough to be a first teamer for us.
However its the Gordon link that worries me. I can see that happening. Wenger is the only fucktard in the history of football who would go for a worse keeper than all 3 of our current clowns
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/...16_224x366.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Well you think Parker and Enrique would improve us, so it seems Fucktard Towers has another vacancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Parker is better than Song. Enrique is better than Clichy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Normal logic would suggest that buying players better than the ones we have already should improve us.
I know they dont score 43905834095834098 goals a match so in your opinion they are shit but they do their job rather well and are must gets
No and no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
But neither are better.Quote:
Normal logic would suggest that buying players better than the ones we have already should improve us.
:lol: What? Do Clichy and Song score loads of goals? What has this to do with anything? Since when did I judge players, especially left-backs and defensive midfielders, on goals scored?Quote:
I know they dont score 43905834095834098 goals a match so in your opinion they are shit but they do their job rather well and are must gets
Yes they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Yes they are.
No idea. Im trying to work out why you dont want better players here and other than the lack of scoring, cant see why you wouldnt want them here seeing as they piss on our 2 players comfortably and im Songs biggest fan on here.
Parker was immense last season and won the award last season to prove it. To do that in a Shite Ass West Ham team surrounded by Shite Ass players is no mean feat. Our players arent as shite as the West Ham ones so maybe he'll do even better with us. Must Get.
Enrique is better defensively and attacking wise than Clichy. I can understand the loyalty you have to our players. Youre also one of the few who remain loyal to Wenger which pretty much puts your opinions in to perspective :lol:
You seem to be making things up. I've never spoken about loyalty to the players or manager. Just because I don't abuse them, it doesn't mean I condone all their actions either. It is possible for people to have a reasonable attitude and sense of perspective without being overly emotional when it comes to football. I understand this is probably alien to you though. I'm giving a balanced opinion on these players. Who cares about those pointless awards? If you're using that back up your opinion, it shows your judgement is worthless anyway. Is Bale the best player in the League?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
:lol:
Thats your arguement?
Who cares about awards? :lol:
Oh dear.
I use fact and you use the who cares get out clause which ultimately didnt get you out of it
In spirit of Wimbledon season, game, set and match to me i reckon.
Oh and balanced opinion? Really? Go back and read all the shite you've spouted about Parker. Balance my ass. Seems like im not the only one making things up. :rolleyes:
All i want is 2 players who are better than what we've got. You dont for whatever reason. Maybe you like the mediocrity. It goes well with your posts. Who knows?
Song is vastly overrated on here, he's never been that good. Had a decentish season the season before last but other than that not great. Last season was pretty awful to be fair. On that basis I'd choose the more reliable Parker.
Clichy has been a bit of a liability for a while, defensively prone to lapses and can't cross at all. Don't know much about Enrique so can't compare there.
Yes, I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Well done to you, you are now officially the biggest idiot of the Summer 2011 Transfer News, Rumours and Bollocks Thread.
But they are Arsenal players and therefore irreplaceableQuote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
:MS:
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
:console:
Says the guy who doesnt want better players at our club
Anyway back on topic
Galatasaray after Arshavin for £13.5m
Worth selling?
Play him in the right position and he'd be the best player in the league
It is quite impressive how obnoxious you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Ach is having a shocker ITT.
I wish i knew what that meant :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
MS leave it. As they say, never debate an imbecile, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
itt?Quote:
Originally Posted by akbapologist
wtf? MS comes out with some ridiculous reason on why Parker is shit. I call him up on it and im the imbecile?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirjackofwilshere
:doh:
Free role in 4-4-2, and you will see his true talent. But the problem is, we have to many of 2nd striker in our set up. In long term, Nasri and RVP will make a better no 10, they are younger and stronger. Take the £13.5m and buy a proper winger instead. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
The issue isn't whether he's worth selling but how many players we're going to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
If we lose Cesc and Nasri we can't lose Arshavin as well, it would be hard to replace all three, even if we did have a manager who knew what he was doing in the transfer market.
RVP can play as a front man with Arshavin in behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
Nasris gone so no need to worry about him.
We do need a proper winger though. Downing anyone?
It's ok to have a laugh. But when a civilised debate is brought down by wilful stupidity, there's no point anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirjackofwilshere
Tbh i dont give a fuck who leaves. Not one player in our squad i can see that i would say i would be upset if they left.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
As usual, its the case of "Will Wenger bring quality players in to replace them?"
Isn't Ach the WUM king though? Hard to know when he really believes what he says.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
In our system, Parker is better than Song (technically Song is better). But we are in dire need of a very mobile DM (CM), something that we lack since Gilberto and Flamini left the club two years ago. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Who were you on the old GW?Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Youre an imbecileQuote:
Originally Posted by milla
:SJOW:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...as-samir-nasriQuote:
Arsenal expect Cesc Fábregas and Samir Nasri back – but not for long
• Fábregas likely to rejoin Barcelona soon for £35m
• Nasri unlikely to sign Arsenal's £90,000-per-week deal
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Cesc Fábregas is privately expecting to leave Arsenal for his former club Barcelona soon. Photograph: Achmad Ibrahim/AP
Arsenal expect Cesc Fábregas and Samir Nasri to return for pre-season training at London Colney this week despite the likelihood that neither will be at the club by the time the Premier League season starts next month.
Fábregas, who has been on holiday in Spain, will return with the bulk of the senior squad on Tuesday, with Barcelona still attempting to complete what they hope will be a £35m transfer back to the club. A bid of around £27m was rejected earlier in the summer but having received an improved offer last week, there is an acceptance at Arsenal that the long-running saga of their captain's future is nearing a conclusion.
The player himself was quoted last week as being "calm and optimistic" about his future. While the 24-year-old privately anticipates that he will be granted his wish to join the Catalan club where he started his career, he is not expected to risk his reputation at Arsenal by refusing to report back for training and will instead hope resolution is reached in negotiations before the Gunners depart for a mini-tour of Malaysia and China a week today.
Nasri's situation is arguably more complicated, with Arsenal yet to receive a concrete offer for the France international who has entered the final 12 months of his contract and has indicated he will not sign a new five-year deal worth around £90,000 a week.
The 24-year-old is aware that Manchester United are expected to formalise their interest in him, while both Manchester City and Chelsea are monitoring the situation in the event that their pursuits of priority targets do not come to fruition.
Nasri, a £15.8m signing from Marseille in 2008, is not due to return to London Colney until Thursday having been granted a few extra days' holiday, as have those other Arsenal players who were involved in international duty at the start of the summer. The midfielder, who has not won anything since moving to the club, was quoted over the weekend claiming his motivation is far from financial and, instead, centres upon a desire to win things.
"I don't want to sign for a club where I wouldn't be playing the football that I like, where I wouldn't feel happy, just for the money," he said. "We already earn huge wages. The priority is to make a big career and to win titles. This is more important than everything else."
That has merely served to fuel suggestions that Nasri is keen to move to pastures new. His compatriot Gaël Clichy, another to have entered the final year of his contract at Arsenal, should complete a £7m move to Manchester City early this week.
Yet Arsène Wenger will hope to counter the apparent exodus of senior players from his first-team squad by completing the protracted £11m transfer of Lille's Ivory Coast forward Gervinho in the next 48 hours. Gervinho had been the subject of interest from several Premier League clubs after scoring 15 goals for the French champions last season, but has opted for a move to the Emirates.
"I chose Arsenal because it's a young group within which I will be able to integrate easily," Gervinho told France Football magazine. "I could develop more over there.
"[Is it] a risk? Not at all. I'm going to Arsenal to play. The best risk to take is to look to score goals and to play a lot. In football you have to take risks if you want to win. I'm going to Arsenal to win. I'm going there to play, not to be on the bench. Arsenal love the game and I love teams that love the game. The Premier League is a notch above."
The attacker may yet be followed to Arsenal by the highly rated Velez Sarsfield midfielder Ricky Alvarez, despite Internazionale having emerged as rivals for the 23-year-old Argentine's signature.
Nah.. Cesc is more likely to leave (bigger transfer fee), Nasri will get a new contract and his much covert attacking midfield role.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
I like Downing, but knowing Wenger, he will use Downing as a wing back instead of a winger.
:coffee:
Downing was pretty good for Villa last season admittedly. Better than Young but whats the point in wingers when we have no fuckers in the box?
Play RVP and Chamakh up front (or Chamakh and a new striker when RVP is out for his usual 5 months), Nasri in behind, 2 wingers out wide and Parker holding.
It is interesting that people quite happily laugh and crow at the (apparent) lack of interest in Arsenal players like Bendtner and Denilson, yet a player like Parker is praised as being necessary for Arsenal without there being many reports of other teams after him.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
One of the reasons why we must get him and not wait til "end of July" as Wenger said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner
We must get him because no other team thinks he is good enough to even bid for? Mmmm, interesting transfer policy.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
I would be seriously worried if we're forced to start the season with Chamakh as a first choice striker. The guy is a very limited footballer, as we saw last season.
LOL What I was trying to say is Song is superior on technical level but Parker is better for our set up. Song is a good sitting CM but not mobile enough to cover midfield and both side of the flanks. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach