Good Bye RVP!

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Originally Posted by gooners

No,you will be the moron to assume one has to be born a fan. I wasn't born an arsenal fan -- who gives a shit? You? Who cares? And you will be a bigger moron to assume they are pumping money into the club to make profit. That much is obvious. They are footie fans who bought the club they could and are pumping money into the club to make it their dram club AS FANS.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

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Sorry, do you work for Reuters? I havent heard any transfer of Modirc yet? Do elaborate?

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

it was 40m last year and now its 23 million. yeah well done levy

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Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72

Sorry, do you work for Reuters? I havent heard any transfer of Modirc yet? Do elaborate?

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spurs have accepted a 23 million pound bid :good:

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Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72

Our board members would sell their own kids for a profit. You only have to look down the road at the stance taken by Levy with Modric - the price is 40M, until then.....FUCK OFF! We sell to a direct rival at a reduced rate, the same team that fucked us in the ass 8-2... what do we do???? We make them even stronger! Fucking muppets running this club.

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That's right, we can hold out for £xm until utd, the only club willing to buy rvp, decide that they aren't paying that price. Then the window closes and we're stuck with a want away player who ends up poisoning the team for another year, who then joins utd - for free.

Instead we've rid ourselves of the potential cancer for £24m.

Truly, muppets :coffee:

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Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72

Sorry, do you work for Reuters? I havent heard any transfer of Modirc yet? Do elaborate?

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Modric has gone to Madrid to seal the move. It's 26m plus add ons. Not 40m.

Link?

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

spurs have accepted a 23 million pound bid :good:

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My apologies, I had no idea Gazidis was freelancing

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Modric has gone to Madrid to seal the move. It's 26m plus add ons. Not 40m.

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Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72

Our board members would sell their own kids for a profit. You only have to look down the road at the stance taken by Levy with Modric - the price is 40M, until then.....FUCK OFF! We sell to a direct rival at a reduced rate, the same team that fucked us in the ass 8-2... what do we do???? We make them even stronger! Fucking muppets running this club.

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Originally Posted by gooners

No,you will be the moron to assume one has to be born a fan. I wasn't born an arsenal fan -- who gives a shit? You? Who cares? And you will be a bigger moron to assume they are pumping all that money into the club to make profit. That much is obvious. They are footie fans who bought the club they could and are pumping money into the club to make it their dream club AS FANS. I don't begrudge them that.

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ive spent the last five minutes trying to argue with that, but htat post is so idiotic and moronic the only repsonse is to laugh

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

ive spent the last five minutes trying to argue with that, but htat post is so idiotic and moronic the only repsonse is to laugh

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Of course it is. I find your posts to be just the same :yawn:

Not sure how I feel about this.

On one hand it's shocking that we've sold our best player to the club directly above us, given how phenomenal he was last season. I think this also shows that Giroud/Podolski (at least one of them) was bought to replace RVP instead of play alongside him.

On the other hand 24M is good business, RVP can only decline from now on - not saying he'll be a flop but doubt he'll reach the same levels he reached for us. A Rooney-RVP partnership is quite scary.

All depends on what we do next. At the moment our net transfer spending is around 7M, with three decent players in (you could perhaps count Cazorla as world class but I haven't seen enough of him to put him in that category) and one world class player out. If Song leaves and we do not make any more signings then this will be a mediocre transfer window with a positive net transfer income as usual.

If Song stays and we get in another couple of players (Sahin for one, not sure about the others but I do think we need a defender or two) then this is still a decent transfer window and we can push for trophies.

Only thing I want to know more about is whether Wenger was interested in Berbatov, it's public knowledge that they wanted to sell him for around 5M and given their desire for RVP we could have done a player + cash swap. Would have been a very good deal IMO.

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Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72

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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/m...161213304.html

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Originally Posted by gooners

Of course it is. I find your posts to be just the same :yawn:

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you clearly need to stop playing football manger if you think rich arabs just throwing money at a football club and winning is a dream club for fans.

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Originally Posted by Boss

it's public knowledge that they wanted to sell him for around 5M and given their desire for RVP we could have done a player + cash swap. Would have been a very good deal IMO.

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United are not stupid enough to do that.

They will willingly sell us the likes of silvestre though :lol:

Look, yea it's not a nice thought selling to Man U, but Ive been debating with my man u mate and it's got me thinking...They could potentially invest 64million in OSW if he gets the pay packet of Rooney and a 4 year deal (as it's been reported) thats an obscene amount of money for an injury prone player like RvP. If he gets injured (which he will) then we can put things into perspective. Trust me once I began going through his injury history to my mate he became very quiet (I could see the doubt creeping in to his veins LOL - it affected his face LOL).

Im happy with the players we have brought in, however we do still have doubts over Song and Walcott. Now I think Song is gone and Theo will stay, but I stiull think Wenger needs to buy an additional striker becasue he came out and said that giroud and Podolski were purchased to play ALONG side RvP, not to replace him, if this is the case then Wenger felt we needed a certain number of strikers for the squad and that has now decreased by one. He will hopefully buy, but either way...OSW isnt the guy I thought he was and we're better off without that kind of cancer in the squad.

Wenger seems to me to be starting from scratch, but this time he has a support system in Bould and Banfield that actually reflects this. We also need to have players 100% commited. The second half against Cologne was telling for me. It was built up of either uncommited players, players coming off long injury and you could see the lack of drive from certain players barring Gervinho and Kos.

Fuck Van Persie, he's gone, i'm looking forward to Podolski and I have a sneaky feeling Giroud is gonna be a handful and do well in the prem. AOC will be better, as will Arteta. Cazorla will bring the creativity we need and Wenger will bring in Sahin.

It's not panic stations yet, we have to just play to our maximim, a strong DM and Striker or Winger and it's enough to challenge this season.

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Originally Posted by Newguy

Look, yea it's not a nice thought selling to Man U, but Ive been debating with my man u mate and it's got me thinking...They could potentially invest 64million in OSW if he gets the pay packet of Rooney and a 4 year deal (as it's been reported) thats an obscene amount of money for an injury prone player like RvP. If he gets injured (which he will) then we can put things into perspective. Trust me once I began going through his injury history to my mate he became very quiet (I could see the doubt creeping in to his veins LOL - it affected his face LOL).

Im happy with the players we have brought in, however we do still have doubts over Song and Walcott. Now I think Song is gone and Theo will stay, but I stiull think Wenger needs to buy an additional striker becasue he came out and said that giroud and Podolski were purchased to play ALONG side RvP, not to replace him, if this is the case then Wenger felt we needed a certain number of strikers for the squad and that has now decreased by one. He will hopefully buy, but either way...OSW isnt the guy I thought he was and we're better off without that kind of cancer in the squad.

Wenger seems to me to be starting from scratch, but this time he has a support system in Bould and Banfield that actually reflects this. We also need to have players 100% commited. The second half against Cologne was telling for me. It was built up of either uncommited players, players coming off long injury and you could see the lack of drive from certain players barring Gervinho and Kos.

Fuck Van Persie, he's gone, i'm looking forward to Podolski and I have a sneaky feeling Giroud is gonna be a handful and do well in the prem. AOC will be better, as will Arteta. Cazorla will bring the creativity we need and Wenger will bring in Sahin.

It's not panic stations yet, we have to just play to our maximim, a strong DM and Striker or Winger and it's enough to challenge this season.

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I agree entirely

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

you clearly need to stop playing football manger if you think rich arabs just throwing money at a football club and winning is a dream club for fans.

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hey buddy, if a footie fan is rich enough to buy a club and pump their money into it to indulge their love of the game --- it is their choice. FOOTBALL IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST MONEY FOR SOME --- something which seems to be lost on you,AW (these days) and the likes of PHW. If Abramovich, City's owners etc want to pump money into their clubs -- as long as this was within the laws of the game --- they can do whatever the fuck they want! Deal with it.

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Originally Posted by gooners

hey buddy, if a footie fan is rich enough to buy a club and pump their money into it to indulge their love of the game --- it is their choice. FOOTBALL IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST MONEY FOR SOME --- something which seems to be lost on you,AW (these days) and the likes of PHW. If Abramovich, City's owners etc want to pump money into their clubs -- as long as this was within the laws of the game --- they can do whatever the fuck they want! Deal with it.

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if a footie fan loves football, he doesnt buy a club and spend bilions just to win trophies. tahts not football, buying every player on the planet just becuase he is good and putting him in one team is not football. but it is for idiots, hence why you enjoy it

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

if a footie fan loves football, he doesnt buy a club and spend bilions just to win trophies. tahts not football, buying every player on the planet just becuase he is good and putting him in one team is not football. but it is for idiots, hence why you enjoy it

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Spot on.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

if a footie fan loves football, he doesnt buy a club and spend bilions just to win trophies. tahts not football, buying every player on the planet just becuase he is good and putting him in one team is not football. but it is for idiots, hence why you enjoy it

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Last time i respond to any of your inane self-righteous shit. I tend to forget GW has morons of your calibre running loose. So long

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Originally Posted by gooners

Last time i respond to any of your inane self-righteous shit. I tend to forget GW has morons of your calibre running loose. So long

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Pot and kettle spring to mind.

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Originally Posted by gooners

Last time i respond to any of your inane self-righteous shit. I tend to forget GW has morons of your calibre running loose. So long

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if you think that citys way of being a football club is proper football and Arsenals way isnt then there is only one moron here, and its not me

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Pot and kettle spring to mind.

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Spot on

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

if you think that citys way of being a football club is proper football and Arsenals way isnt then there is only one moron here, and its not me

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Spot on

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Pot and kettle spring to mind.

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Pot-on.

Sorry.

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

Pot-on.

Sorry.

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Pol Pot

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Pot and kettle spring to mind.

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as it should :yawn:

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

Pot-on.

Sorry.

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Pol Pot

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http://sanaakosirickylee.files.wordp.../potpourri.jpg

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

if a footie fan loves football, he doesnt buy a club and spend bilions just to win trophies. tahts not football, buying every player on the planet just becuase he is good and putting him in one team is not football. but it is for idiots, hence why you enjoy it

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So, if you had billions to spend and owned Arsenal....what would you do and who would you buy? Or would you continue on with this self sustaining model after years of failure?

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Originally Posted by gooners

Last time i respond to any of your inane self-righteous shit. I tend to forget GW has morons of your calibre running loose. So long

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Have to say I rarely agree with ollie but I can't argue with what he's saying here.
Do you really think that football should be about who has the richest owner, who can throw the most money around?
I think Arsenal have been far too cautious in the transfer market over the last few years but I wouldn't want Arsenal to achieve success by spending stupid amounts of money from some billionaire benefactor.
City are only where they are because of the money. Money they don't have. As Ollie said above, they spent 117% of their income on wages last year. 117%. Just on wages. Forget the transfer fees and other running costs.
Any normal club would have gone bankrupt.
It's obscene that a club is allowed to operate this way, I can't believe someone above said billionaire owners are a good thing in the game. :doh:
EVERYTHING that is wrong in the game is, at root, because of the obscene amounts of money and the massively uneven distribution of it throughout the game.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

So, if you had billions to spend and owned Arsenal....what would you do and who would you buy? Or would you continue on with this self sustaining model after years of failure?

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i would provide funds but operate sensibly. would i sanction 150 million pounds of spending on three players no.

but there is no way i would do what man city or chelsea are doing right now

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Have to say I rarely agree with ollie but I can't argue with what he's saying here.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

So, if you had billions to spend and owned Arsenal....what would you do and who would you buy? Or would you continue on with this self sustaining model after years of failure?

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You know what's actually funny, Man U have still managed to win and compete with the likes of City & Chelsea ok. In fact, the league is now tougher to compete in than it was when it was just a two-horse race from the outset.

according to orstein on the bbc, van persie last week was coming round to the idea of staying this year, contract or not, but wenger told him he was not in his plans and that he was selling him before the game on sunday.

good

wenger :bow:

Fucked off that we have sold to utd, but have a feeling Wenger had this planned all along to prevent vp having a proper pre-season with utd

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Originally Posted by gooners

You know what's actually funny, Man U have still managed to win and compete with the likes of City & Chelsea ok.

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They have, but they have pretty much the best manager of all time.
Wenger's not the bumbling idiot some people on here make out but he's not as good as Fergie.

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Originally Posted by gooners

You know what's actually funny, Man U have still managed to win and compete with the likes of City & Chelsea ok. In fact, the league is now tougher to compete in than it was when it was just a two-horse race from the outset.

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weve competed with chelsea, in fact we finished above them last year :good: