Random Arsenal Shit (When it's not worth starting a thread)

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

While this owner remains, we'll still see our best players sold year on year.

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Time for Usmanov to come home?

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Time for Usmanov to come home?

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No.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQEXjVWe6lA

Happier days.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Time for Usmanov to come home?

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He talks the talk but as soon as he gets in, he will just take the menu. He won't give a shit about us like kronke

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

He talks the talk but as soon as he gets in, he will just take the menu. He won't give a shit about us like kronke

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We don't know that.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Way too much delight from several posters at the guy being under intense pressure. We know what's going on on the pitch. We don't know what's happening off it. Arsenal reminds me of the banks. Fucking people over left right and centre with 80% of the victims bending over for it because, you know, you need banks right? Unthinkable the world could ever work without them. So let's not even think about it. That's what the Wenger witch hunt is turning into. Just get the guy out, doesn't matter how, forget about the anything else going on at the club and all the others who have contributed to the downfall. The absent, miser who owns the place, the rats who sold everything so they could sell out, the players who continue to fuck up. Just get Wenger out and all that will magically sort itself out. And banks - they're great, we need them else how would we keep getting fucked over?

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Originally Posted by Joker

We don't know that.

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No we don't. Its bizarre some fans would rather have an American crook owning our club who doesn't spend a dime on it instead of Russia's richest crook who's pledged to spunk his ill-gotten gains on buying some decent players.

Bizarre.

it's more bizarre that any sort of argument can be found for either running the show.

both will do arsenal no good whatsoever but we are forever fucked now because only a select band of people can ever afford to own us, so it is pass the parcel from one **** to the other.

Time for Mark Zuckerberg to come home.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Way too much delight from several posters at the guy being under intense pressure. We know what's going on on the pitch. We don't know what's happening off it. Arsenal reminds me of the banks. Fucking people over left right and centre with 80% of the victims bending over for it because, you know, you need banks right? Unthinkable the world could ever work without them. So let's not even think about it. That's what the Wenger witch hunt is turning into. Just get the guy out, doesn't matter how, forget about the anything else going on at the club and all the others who have contributed to the downfall. The absent, miser who owns the place, the rats who sold everything so they could sell out, the players who continue to fuck up. Just get Wenger out and all that will magically sort itself out. And banks - they're great, we need them else how would we keep getting fucked over?

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We have some slimey bastards at the top level that have a lot to answer for. They have sold out in a big way and we should remember all the talk about this club being properly run, English owned and keeping with tradition. That has all gone out the window with the current regime. But that doesn't excuse Arsene Wenger in the slightest. I'll tell you why I'm really pissed off with him, it's because he should know better than everyone else at that level because he's a man about football and keeping it pure. It the club has been raped from the inside, how has it been allowed to happen on his watch? Why has stood by and said nothing? What's worse, he's flying the banner for this current model and defends it against anyone that suggests otherwise with us much venom as we saw last night when he was defending his reputation and his team. He has put himself right in the firing line.

How can he come out and talk about this 'socialist' wage structure we have as if it's a fantastic idea if it means we do everything on the cheap while charging the higest ticket prices in the land? How can he even come out and defend the ticket price hike in the first place as he did a season or two ago? That has to be explained? Can you explain it if you think he's being screwed over by the Board? Stan is hardly in the country and his knowledge of football is limited. He has no idea how a football club in this country and the only bit of advice he could probably give is on sponsorship and expanding the brand because that's huge in the US. I can't imagine him telling Wenger how to run this club. That's not to say he's not here with an agenda but I figure the ball was already rolling before he arrived and he signed up after seeing the projections. Or we courted him so he can push the original agenda even further. That's all speculation but I really doubt we're seeing his influence right now. Not yet anyway. If this is the work of Stan, then why has Wenger stood by and waved the banner for this shit? I don't accept the PR talk and you do what you're told as a employee because it shows he's bloody spineless and has no integrity. That's bad enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdd2TUeOZyc

Lol when the big dude said Wenger out randomly

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Originally Posted by PGFC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQEXjVWe6lA

Happier days.

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Damn, I remember that as if it were only decades ago. I remember racing up the stairs cheering when the winner went in, and then falling back down them. Still, not as painful as throwing myself under buses which is what I do now.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

We have some slimey bastards at the top level that have a lot to answer for. They have sold out in a big way and we should remember all the talk about this club being properly run, English owned and keeping with tradition. That has all gone out the window with the current regime. But that doesn't excuse Arsene Wenger in the slightest. I'll tell you why I'm really pissed off with him, it's because he should know better than everyone else at that level because he's a man about football and keeping it pure. It the club has been raped from the inside, how has it been allowed to happen on his watch? Why has stood by and said nothing? What's worse, he's flying the banner for this current model and defends it against anyone that suggests otherwise with us much venom as we saw last night when he was defending his reputation and his team. He has put himself right in the firing line.

How can he come out and talk about this 'socialist' wage structure we have as if it's a fantastic idea if it means we do everything on the cheap while charging the higest ticket prices in the land? How can he even come out and defend the ticket price hike in the first place as he did a season or two ago? That has to be explained? Can you explain it if you think he's being screwed over by the Board? Stan is hardly in the country and his knowledge of football is limited. He has no idea how a football club in this country and the only bit of advice he could probably give is on sponsorship and expanding the brand because that's huge in the US. I can't imagine him telling Wenger how to run this club. That's not to say he's not here with an agenda but I figure the ball was already rolling before he arrived and he signed up after seeing the projections. Or we courted him so he can push the original agenda even further. That's all speculation but I really doubt we're seeing his influence right now. Not yet anyway. If this is the work of Stan, then why has Wenger stood by and waved the banner for this shit? I don't accept the PR talk and you do what you're told as a employee because it shows he's bloody spineless and has no integrity. That's bad enough.

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I didn't say Wenger is being screwed over by the board. I'm saying he's taking all the flak. It's right he takes his fair share but not the bastard board's too. They've all presided over this shambles. I particularly loathe Kroenke because he's just a vulture picking at the carcass left by the rats. I doubt he has any direct input other that to instruct his minions to do whatever is necessary to secure his return on investment.

They all need to be gone along with 90% of the squad. So many of them on the take and giving fuck all back.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I didn't say Wenger is being screwed over by the board. I'm saying he's taking all the flak. It's right he takes his fair share but not the bastard board's too. They've all presided over this shambles. I particularly loathe Kroenke because he's just a vulture picking at the carcass left by the rats. I doubt he has any direct input other that to instruct his minions to do whatever is necessary to secure his return on investment.

They all need to be gone along with 90% of the squad. So many of them on the take and giving fuck all back.

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If you could stop thinking as an Arsenal fan and become neutral, who would you say is a bigger c*nt- Glazer or Kroenke?

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

If you could stop thinking as an Arsenal fan and become neutral, who would you say is a bigger c*nt- Glazer or Kroenke?

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Hard to say. Kroenke is literally anonymous. No sound from him, sure as hell no money. He has zero interest in the club. The Glaziers at least stuffed some cash in, even though they lumbered the club with debt to do it. Several titles later and with all the cash and merchandising that brings, the Glaziers must be well ahead of Kroenke in terms of success at the bank and it's a no-contest in terms of success on the pitch. Neither **** is good for football and nor is that Abromovich tosser or those thieving Arabs. And the dirtiest pig of all is linked up behind Kroenke to ooze his way into our place. It's a ****fest, hard to know which is the most rotten.

Bottom line is that there are no Saintly Billionaires(Warren Buffet excepting) are few less that are fans of the club they choose to invest in. Like I posted previously, SK has invested about 500m GBP buying the 70% he owns in the club. Up till now he has not taken a penny out. He has also not invested in the playing side of things. Maybe out of choice or maybe because Wenger told him it wasnt needed. Remember we have a stockpile of cash in the bank. He might even have been consulted and sanctioned the sale of RVP, but for all we know, he may not even know RVP from the next player in the squad especially when told by the Prof that we can do without him. So lets leave SK out of this... Somewhere down the line the man is going to cash in whenever the value of the club seems highest. However his track record for selling his assets is pretty scanty so its hard to know where his thoughts lie long term. Nothing that SK has done has brought us into decline. We have the revenue, stadium and resources to stock this team with the next to top tier players on the market i.e within the 20-30m bracket. That we do not do that is down to Wenger and his parsimonious approach. He prefers to shop at the 3rd tier of 10-15m where he can find malleable characters who have bought in to his myth of greatness and will follow without question. This dose not last for long as said players if talented get antsy after 3-4 years of zero progress and the stagnation that pervades Wengers approach. A manager can manage for 30-40 years but a player has a top shelf life of 10-12 years

Wengers greatest mistake is thinking all people and players are all ready and willing to be pawns in his insular universe where he is king of all he surveys. Problem is he is not even half of the genius he likes to think he is. Now all that is left for him is hubris, fits of pique, and as seen recently, outbursts bordering on mania. I used to think Fat Sam had an over inflated opinion of himself but now i see Wenger takes the prize cake.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Bottom line is that there are no Saintly Billionaires(Warren Buffet excepting) are few less that are fans of the club they choose to invest in. Like I posted previously, SK has invested about 500m GBP buying the 70% he owns in the club. Up till now he has not taken a penny out. He has also not invested in the playing side of things. Maybe out of choice or maybe because Wenger told him it wasnt needed. Remember we have a stockpile of cash in the bank. He might even have been consulted and sanctioned the sale of RVP, but for all we know, he may not even know RVP from the next player in the squad especially when told by the Prof that we can do without him. So lets leave SK out of this... Somewhere down the line the man is going to cash in whenever the value of the club seems highest. However his track record for selling his assets is pretty scanty so its hard to know where his thoughts lie long term. Nothing that SK has done has brought us into decline. We have the revenue, stadium and resources to stock this team with the next to top tier players on the market i.e within the 20-30m bracket. That we do not do that is down to Wenger and his parsimonious approach. He prefers to shop at the 3rd tier of 10-15m where he can find malleable characters who have bought in to his myth of greatness and will follow without question. This dose not last for long as said players if talented get antsy after 3-4 years of zero progress and the stagnation that pervades Wengers approach. A manager can manage for 30-40 years but a player has a top shelf life of 10-12 years

Wengers greatest mistake is thinking all people and players are all ready and willing to be pawns in his insular universe where he is king of all he surveys. Problem is he is not even half of the genius he likes to think he is. Now all that is left for him is hubris, fits of pique, and as seen recently, outbursts bordering on mania. I used to think Fat Sam had an over inflated opinion of himself but now i see Wenger takes the prize cake.

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Bottom line is stop posting on here Stan and spend some fucking money.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Bottom line is that there are no Saintly Billionaires(Warren Buffet excepting) are few less that are fans of the club they choose to invest in. Like I posted previously, SK has invested about 500m GBP buying the 70% he owns in the club. Up till now he has not taken a penny out. He has also not invested in the playing side of things. Maybe out of choice or maybe because Wenger told him it wasnt needed. Remember we have a stockpile of cash in the bank. He might even have been consulted and sanctioned the sale of RVP, but for all we know, he may not even know RVP from the next player in the squad especially when told by the Prof that we can do without him. So lets leave SK out of this... Somewhere down the line the man is going to cash in whenever the value of the club seems highest. However his track record for selling his assets is pretty scanty so its hard to know where his thoughts lie long term. Nothing that SK has done has brought us into decline. We have the revenue, stadium and resources to stock this team with the next to top tier players on the market i.e within the 20-30m bracket. That we do not do that is down to Wenger and his parsimonious approach. He prefers to shop at the 3rd tier of 10-15m where he can find malleable characters who have bought in to his myth of greatness and will follow without question. This dose not last for long as said players if talented get antsy after 3-4 years of zero progress and the stagnation that pervades Wengers approach. A manager can manage for 30-40 years but a player has a top shelf life of 10-12 years

Wengers greatest mistake is thinking all people and players are all ready and willing to be pawns in his insular universe where he is king of all he surveys. Problem is he is not even half of the genius he likes to think he is. Now all that is left for him is hubris, fits of pique, and as seen recently, outbursts bordering on mania. I used to think Fat Sam had an over inflated opinion of himself but now i see Wenger takes the prize cake.

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And kroenkes fundamental error is allowing his floor manager to have so much say in too many things. Imagine you invest 500million into a company, would you just leave all the cogs and wheels to one man down below or ensure there are others around him that he answers to? That can push him on matters in and out of his area of expertise? You would overlook that if you had other objectives and goals to achieve and if this man could target the bare minimum for you, without having to invest even more whilst building up the value of the investment you already have under your wing.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

And kroenkes fundamental error is allowing his floor manager to have so much say in too many things. Imagine you invest 500million into a company, would you just leave all the cogs and wheels to one man down below or ensure there are others around him that he answers to? That can push him on matters in and out of his area of expertise? You would overlook that if you had other objectives and goals to achieve and if this man could target the bare minimum for you, without having to invest even more whilst building up the value of the investment you already have under your wing.

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...with that initial investment having been made using similar grey tactics with other sporting operations that have since turned into bland, non-competitive investment vehicles. The boring, anti-sporting **** knows one way and granted it works.

The Tuesday Club have returned from their winter hibernation.

http://thetuesdayclub.libsyn.com/


Given recent events this will be an interesting one to listen to.

Moyes is is then :d

http://arseblog.com/wp-content/uploa.../bobwilson.mp3

Bob :bow:

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Originally Posted by PGFC

Moyes is is then :d

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what do they say about him?

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Originally Posted by Munchies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdd2TUeOZyc

Lol when the big dude said Wenger out randomly

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ILT :bow:

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Originally Posted by PGFC

Moyes is is then :d

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

what do they say about him?

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Nah, that'd be cheating, you'll have to listen to it all :good:

wanker.

im at work.

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

wanker.

im at work.

<_<

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:haha: Thanks that's made my day,

it's the long short list if Arsene leaves in the summer, Moyes gets the vote, though it's worth listening if you get the chance, even Maradona's in with a shout.

Fuck me, Sczencnynny is minted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9FoWMBrlI8

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Originally Posted by milla

ILT :bow:

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Your fat face is a joke, as is wearing a cross as bling!....can't even pronounce the manager's name properly you stupid troglodyte

I laughed when the fat guy said 'He's oldschool ... He's useless'

I laughed at everything he said because he's clearly a moron.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

I laughed at everything he said because he's clearly a moron.

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Disagree. Delivery was comical, but essentially I can't see much wrong with his points.

Because like most people he shows no understanding of the finances of the modern game, he reads these media reports about how much money we have to spend. Failing to understand just how much we as a club spend on players through the wage bill which is far more relevant than transfer fees, we have the third highest wage bill in the league and I don't think we are in a position to spend until we get the dross off the wage bill which is nigh on impossible. Now I don't know if Wenger is responsible for wage negotiations (no other manager in the league is) but he cannot spend money on wages that the club doesn't have to spend on new players. The blame on Wenger is spending unwisely rather than not spending, that plus the failure of Ivan Gazidis to bring in revenue through marketing

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Because like most people he shows no understanding of the finances of the modern game, he reads these media reports about how much money we have to spend. Failing to understand just how much we as a club spend on players through the wage bill which is far more relevant than transfer fees, we have the third highest wage bill in the league and I don't think we are in a position to spend until we get the dross off the wage bill which is nigh on impossible. Now I don't know if Wenger is responsible for wage negotiations (no other manager in the league is) but he cannot spend money on wages that the club doesn't have to spend on new players. The blame on Wenger is spending unwisely rather than not spending, that plus the failure of Ivan Gazidis to bring in revenue through marketing

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he doesn't have to rely on newspaper reports, just listen to our ceo whilst he sits next to the manager at our AGM's.

you are right about wages, as people rarely bundle in the cost along with the transfer fee which takes away from whatever grand total is available. dick law does all the transfer dealings from texas (unbelieveable i know).

spending won't turn around our fortunes under wenger - he will find a way to mismanage the squad over the course a season now, because he is too set in his ways and those methods are behind the times now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX5vpIok0j0

All the goals ... :cloud9: . Man wish we still had him :(

wearethenorthbank ‏@northbanklower
Wenger has banned The Sun from London Colney.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

wearethenorthbank ‏@northbanklower
Wenger has banned The Sun from London Colney.

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Fucking brilliant.

Wenger :bow:

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

wearethenorthbank ‏@northbanklower
Wenger has banned The Sun from London Colney.

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Fantastic if true.

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Originally Posted by Munchies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX5vpIok0j0

All the goals ... :cloud9: . Man wish we still had him :(

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:crying:

Good player