Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Plenty has been said about his employers in the past and they were taking heat for years whilst Wenger's failings ignored.

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It's true. Wenger is constantly praised on here and has had barely any criticism at all.




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It's not about whether Wenger deserves criticism or not, in my view the majority of the criticism levelled against him has been legitimate.
The point I'm making is that the board have done nothing to reign in his idiosyncratic flaws and they are in my view just as responsible.

Makes me laugh.....says it's highly unlikely that Cavani would sign in time because of the complexities of signing such a high profile player......
1) so why bother going to Paris in any case
2) and if it is so complex a task then why fu&king wait till the last day of the bloody window

I mean wtf does Dick Law do?

Citeh pick up De Bruye in about 2 hours and UTD suddenly did a handful of deals a day after DeGaal said they wouldn't doing any more biz

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Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over

Makes me laugh.....says it's highly unlikely that Cavani would sign in time because of the complexities of signing such a high profile player......
1) so why bother going to Paris in any case
2) and if it is so complex a task then why fu&king wait till the last day of the bloody window

I mean wtf does Dick Law do?

Citeh pick up De Bruye in about 2 hours and UTD suddenly did a handful of deals a day after DeGaal said they wouldn't doing any more biz

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Wenger going to Paris is a case of people putting two and two together, my understanding is that he has a home there

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

The point I'm making is that the board are happy with Wenger and are happy without putting him under pressure to achieve.
There is a difference between board room meddling which I agree doesn't work and the approach the board takes summed up by Chips Keswick "when Arsene has a plan we back him, when he doesn't we stay quiet"

It's that laisse faire approach that bothers me, they have the ultimate say over Wengers employment and so it's them I ultimately hold accountable for his lack of action.
Their lack of action over his prevaricating and his reversion to type every time it looks like we've turned a corner is an inditement on them. We blame Wenger purely because he isn't accountable

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If you listen to Gazidis and what he did when the new sponsorship deals were announced, he put a lot of public pressure on Wenger to make a huge signing. He made it known that a player like Rooney and the ridiculous wages he was on wasn't an obstacle to us. I don't they're totally happy and the pressure was on for him to deliver silverware. Maybe after these FA Cup wins he feels some sort of vindication and has breathing space. I don't know.

But what are they supposed to do in this situation? They can't really tell him his team isn't good enough. They can't force a signing on him like so many other clubs do. They just have to make sure the support is there if he needs it, step back and let him walk to glory or off a cliff. I don't blame Wenger because he's not accountable. I blame him because he should know better than any exec on our Board and it's a disgrace if someone has to whisper in his ear to tell him this team isn't good enough. I don't want them involved on the playing side. I just hope they set a higher target for him. Something along the lines of 4th isn't good enough anymore. A domestic trophy and a solid, competitive Prem and CL run is the bear minimum. If we're out of the race by Christmas or out by the last 16 again, you're out of a job!

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Originally Posted by Letters

It's true. Wenger is constantly praised on here and has had barely any criticism at all.




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That's in recent seasons. Before the new sponsorship deals Gazidis, Ivan and PHW would get it often. Since the new deals they hardly get a mention because our financial state has been made pretty clear. They can't be accused of holding back funds and no more phantom finance discussions about us going broke. That's all stopped.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Again why aren't the board accountable, Wenger isn't making them pay him an exorbitant sum. They are happy with him because they and our major share holder just want to turn us into a giant cash cow.

And what good would bringing in Klopp do irrespective we can't sign players till January

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The board aren't held accountable because they've made the £200m available to spend but Wenger doesn't want to do it. It's a well known fact that the money is there, and it's just sitting in a Natwest current account doing nothing while inflation devalues it every day. Because that's how billion pound businesses work.

I know this might sound negative but I don't think we are going to sign anymore players.

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Originally Posted by Bumble

I know this might sound negative but I don't think we are going to sign anymore players.

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Bumble I'm guessing that you have an unruly shock of white hair and a thick moustache. Also that your first name is....maybe Albert?.

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Originally Posted by Dein-machine

Wenger & the board are taking the piss out of us & the only reason its been tolerated for so long is due to Wengers earlu success, the pink elephant regarding stadium repayments & recently the 2 cup wins.
Sorry to say it guys, but we need to finish out of the top 4, behind the likes of Liverpool & Utd, who have spent - and then have a mass demonstration. Not aimed at Wenger but aimed at the board. They then need to decide whether they run with a manager who does not understand that nowadays success on the pitch runs parallel with spending heavily on the team or to swap him for someone who actually wants to compete.

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Kroenke the Clown will clear £200m from his association with Arsenal however it pans out - either through the constantly rising share value and a later sale, or the eagerness of the fat Russian and a Nigerian bloke to jump in at the first hint. He can't lose. He's smart but he's no sports fan.

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Originally Posted by Kano

The argument about his salary is nonsense - any amount paid to a manager or player is ridiculously high, so whether it is 1, 2 or £8m, it’s all disproportionate.

Money spent or not, Wenger can’t escape the failings of building such an unbalanced squad. We have no wingers. A novice DM with under a years experience. A good striker, an average one and another piss poor guy. Add to the usual complaints of playing people out of position and not using his squad enough. Those are the things he can’t hide from.

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He's doing a bloody good job of hiding from it. Season after season.

Cavani will be signed by 6pm

You heard it here first, or on Twitter......or the telegraph.

Maybe

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Wenger going to Paris is a case of people putting two and two together, my understanding is that he has a home there

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That's cleared that up then.....probably remembered he had left the bath running or something obvious like that......

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Cavani will be signed by 6pm

You heard it here first, or on Twitter......or the telegraph.

Maybe

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If it's on twatter it must be true.

How are they getting around the fact the European window is closed?

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Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over

That's cleared that up then.....probably remembered he had left the bath running or something obvious like that......

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Left the bath running? :haha:

Wenger uses a measuring jug to fill it at 4am in the morning, when electricity prices are lowest. Covers it all in plastic sheets to catch the condensation.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

If it's on twatter it must be true.

How are they getting around the fact the European window is closed?

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They can still sell I believe, just not buy.

Not that it's going to make a blind bit of difference to us.

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Cavani will be signed by 6pm

You heard it here first, or on Twitter......or the telegraph.

Maybe

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Cavani and Rabiot is the rumour.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Left the bath running? :haha:

Wenger uses a measuring jug to fill it at 4am in the morning, when electricity prices are lowest. Covers it all in plastic sheets to catch the condensation.

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Haha true. Wenger's really cheap.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

They can still sell I believe, just not buy.

Not that it's going to make a blind bit of difference to us.

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How dumb is that? So if PSG can't bring in a replacement then why would they sell?

Perfect time to conduct business for Wenger though, when there's zero chance of getting anything done.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Cavani and Rabiot is the rumour.

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That rumour has been going around for weeks. You have to wonder why, if true, it would be left until the last few hours of the window. The rumour developed into no chance Cavani, Rabiot, maybe. Claude even claimed to be an ITK on this one.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

If you listen to Gazidis and what he did when the new sponsorship deals were announced, he put a lot of public pressure on Wenger to make a huge signing. He made it known that a player like Rooney and the ridiculous wages he was on wasn't an obstacle to us. I don't they're totally happy and the pressure was on for him to deliver silverware. Maybe after these FA Cup wins he feels some sort of vindication and has breathing space. I don't know.

But what are they supposed to do in this situation? They can't really tell him his team isn't good enough. They can't force a signing on him like so many other clubs do. They just have to make sure the support is there if he needs it, step back and let him walk to glory or off a cliff. I don't blame Wenger because he's not accountable. I blame him because he should know better than any exec on our Board and it's a disgrace if someone has to whisper in his ear to tell him this team isn't good enough. I don't want them involved on the playing side. I just hope they set a higher target for him. Something along the lines of 4th isn't good enough anymore. A domestic trophy and a solid, competitive Prem and CL run is the bear minimum. If we're out of the race by Christmas or out by the last 16 again, you're out of a job!

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Well this is it, the proof will be in what we acheive this season and how the board react to this, if as I suspect they still offer Wenger a new contract despite not competing for meaningful silverware than there can be no doubt they are equally culpable.
I agree with you in the sense that Gazidis has tried to use the media to levy pressure on Wenger, but it's the major shareholder that doesn't want anything to change

United have spunked 80 million euros on Martial, including bonuses. Wenger will use this example for why he hasn't signed anyone.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

How dumb is that? So if PSG can't bring in a replacement then why would they sell?

Perfect time to conduct business for Wenger though, when there's zero chance of getting anything done.

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Well said. It's quite obvious Wenger's putting in bids now because there's no chance they'll be accepted. And then he can turn to the fans and say 'I tried'. And the fans will believe him. But not us two because we're smart innit.

Syn drinking during the day again. :bow:

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Originally Posted by Bumble

I know this might sound negative but I don't think we are going to sign anymore players.

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I bet we sign someone.......I am yet to be let down by the club

Posted from the inside of my mother's stomach

Don't know what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Syn

Well said. It's quite obvious Wenger's putting in bids now because there's no chance they'll be accepted. And then he can turn to the fans and say 'I tried'. And the fans will believe him. But not us two because we're smart innit.

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In the end, if he doesn't get something done today (and by "he" I mean him and that team he has that is supposedly working around the clock) what he's shown is he can't get things done in the market while every other club seems able, even Utd who appear to be the north's comedy equivalent.

This is meant to be a top operation striving for a place with the elite. Anyone can be sarcastic about the repetitive failures but the failures remain.

Anyway, you don't need to look past Sanogo. What was that all about? How can a man so misunderstood get things that badly wrong?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

In the end, if he doesn't get something done today (and by "he" I mean him and that team he has that is supposedly working around the clock) what he's shown is he can't get things done in the market while every other club seems able, even Utd who appear to be the north's comedy equivalent.

This is meant to be a top operation striving for a place with the elite. Anyone can be sarcastic about the repetitive failures but the failures remain.

Anyway, you don't need to look past Sanogo. What was that all about? How can a man so misunderstood get things that badly wrong?

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Agreed mate. Makes me so angry to think how much good that £200m could do to the slums in Africa and Luton. Could've adopted Berahino and given him a career. And instead Wenger prefers to keep it under his mattress while its value disappears. I'm fuming.

Same story every summer. Vinegar simple refuses to address key issues so he can prove people wrong.

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Originally Posted by Syn

Agreed mate. Makes me so angry to think how much good that £200m could do to the slums in Africa and Luton. Could've adopted Berahino and given him a career. And instead Wenger prefers to keep it under his mattress while its value disappears. I'm fuming.

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When you've had a couple more PM me, I have a little job for you.

De Gea to remain at Utd after deal collapses :haha:

Daily Bowel Evacuation reckons we're trying to get Aleksandr Kokorin on loan.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Daily Bowel Evacuation reckons we're trying to get Aleksandr Kokorin on loan.

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Another kid. Typical. Classic Wenger.

Aleksandr Kokorin has bagged 47 goals in 196 games for Dynamo Moscow since making his debut back in 2008. He also has netted eight times during 32 appearances for Russia.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

When you've had a couple more PM me, I have a little job for you.

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Why don't you commit your own damn assassinations of corrupt government officials !

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Daily Bowel Evacuation reckons we're trying to get Aleksandr Kokorin on loan.

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Reading the daily mail tends to make me constipated, I think it's nonsense makes my muscles contract

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Daily Bowel Evacuation reckons we're trying to get Aleksandr Kokorin on loan.

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It's about the most believable rumour this summer. Why are we so cheap? Wenger has had all summer to sign a striker and he's scraping around the bargain basement for russian cast offs, honestly it's totally baffling.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Aleksandr Kokorin has bagged 47 goals in 196 games for Dynamo Moscow since making his debut back in 2008. He also has netted eight times during 32 appearances for Russia.

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Clearly as has been pointed out, Wenger knows exactly what he's doing, that's the reason he's been winning left right and center for the last 10 years, how dare we to question such a messiah, he's a God and we are mere dog sh*t on the bottom of his shoe.

This guy will come in score 50 goal in his 1st season, be the darling of the press and be knighted and we'll wonder what all the fuss was about.

Giroud's looking pretty pleased with himself

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Originally Posted by selassie

It's about the most believable rumour this summer. Why are we so cheap? Wenger has had all summer to sign a striker and he's scraping around the bargain basement for russian cast offs, honestly it's totally baffling.

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Apparently because being cheap means you get top, top quality players better than what we have, why would we waste millions on proven finishers when you can pick up someone who has a questionable record for a fraction of the price, it makes no sense.