If we don't finish 4th, do you want Wenger to leave at the end of the season?

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

If nothing happens over the next couple of weeks then what? In May we will be talking about giving him another summer before judging him in August, and the cycle begins again.

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No - this is it for me. Wenger and Gazidis made it perfectly clear at the end of last season that they had to change their approach and would do so. Another year of the same will make it clear that it is bullshit.

It's all very well talking about getting in the top 4 as a priority because of the money, but if you don't use it, then it is pointless. I'd rather we won the Europa League than just went on and on with no trophy. He needs to make it clear that he is going for something. Just staying in competitions each year is not enough - we have to win some, even if it means not trying for others.

I haven't voted because I think he should step aside now.

He won't be sacked.

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Originally Posted by Joker

Adjective:
(esp. of a position or view) Not able to be maintained or defended against attack or objection: "this argument is clearly untenable".
Synonyms: indefensible

So I don't think I've used the word in the wrong context here, but I bow to your superior wisdom.

And I'm not saying we should get Owen Coyle, that's just another smokescreen created by the pro-Wenger brigade to counter any criticism of the man. Yes, there are better managers out there at the moment, because I wouldn't put Wenger in the top 30 managers in the world at the moment.

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It's not the "pro-Wenger brigade", it's the pro-Arsenal brigade. Big difference.

There's a lot more going on at Arsenal than any of seem to be giving credit for. The whole place reminds me of a crime scene with the main perps having skilfully removed themselves from the frame. I'm not fooled.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

It's not the "pro-Wenger brigade", it's the pro-Arsenal brigade. Big difference.

There's a lot more going on at Arsenal than any of seem to be giving credit for. The whole place reminds me of a crime scene with the main perps having skilfully removed themselves from the frame. I'm not fooled.

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You should change your name to 'Columbo'.

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Originally Posted by GB.

You should change your name to 'Columbo'.

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No, I should change my name to, "Bloke who has worked behind the scenes in many a boardroom and knows exactly the type of shit that goes on and how the perps can and do spin it." You must admit, they are a rather quiet bunch, even though they have been slitting each other's throats for the past couple of years. You can still smell them though. They can never mask the stench.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

No, I should change my name to, "Bloke who has worked behind the scenes in many a boardroom and knows exactly the type of shit that goes on and how the perps can and do spin it." You must admit, they are a rather quiet bunch, even though they have been slitting each other's throats for the past couple of years. You can still smell them though. They can never mask the stench.

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The smell of pork with their snouts in the trough.

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Originally Posted by MaxPeck

The smell of pork with their snouts in the trough.

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They did rather well, did they not? Certainly better than the team or the fans. But is Wenger in on it? I can't decide. He'd be such a fraud and hypocrite if he is.

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Originally Posted by GB.

You should change your name to 'Columbo'.

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Just one more question...

Arsenal have a man called Gazidis working for the club. Could you tell me what he does?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Just one more question...

Arsenal have a man called Gazidis working for the club. Could you tell me what he does?

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Lots of Arselicking I think. Sometimes he acts as the club parrot as well.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Just one more question...

Arsenal have a man called Gazidis working for the club. Could you tell me what he does?

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He's the chief executive.