Was this our most wasted summer transfer window yet?

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I am just stating the things on here that personally aggravate me. It's your forum you can do what you like, my suggestion is don't try and pre-empt people getting offended.

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I'm judging what gets you shafted by The Sun.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Things are hardly ever deleted on here. IMO we've always moderated with a very light touch on here, arguably too light. Back in the day it was very hard to get banned from this place.

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I have had a handful of posts deleted in the last few months, because of off colour remarks and humour

None of which in my view were justified, i don't think anyone on here is what i'd call thin skinned.

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Originally Posted by Letters

:lol: Wow, yeah - I'd forgotten about that!

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It wasn't as good as Ollie's film forum.

Stop all moderation and let the lunatics run the asylum I say.

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Originally Posted by Özim

People hail the man as somekind of magician, guess what a magician doesn't go most of his career at one club consistently failing to succeed, name me 1 other manager who after a period of great success has failed to reproduce for so long and still remained in charge.

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Clough.


And he ended up taking Forest down.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

You are pettifogging, the issue is not whether he's the second coming or something like that....the issue is whether the club has improved and grown bigger as a result of him being the manager than the position it was in in 1996. No-one is stating that he hasn't massively outstayed his welcome or that he hasn't come close to emulating what he did in the first half of his arsenal managerial career, but we are an incredibly well run club and Wenger is part of that even as a football manager he is massively lacking.
I'd like him to move on to give a younger, more ambitious and more innovative man a chance to move the team forward, but there is absolutely no question that this club is a very attractive prospect for any manager and Wenger takes responsibility for that as much as he takes responsibility for our inability to challenge for major honours.

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Maybe the club is an attracitve proposition, but let me remind you we were heavily linked with managers like Bobby Robson and Cruyff top managers back in the day before Wenger even joined.

I don't think we've ever struggled to attract managers, I won't argue the club is bigger and run better, but I don't attribute that to Wenger alone, this could and probably would have happened even without him here, just as it has at other clubs, I personally think Wenger gets too much credit for that, he's done well out of it, very well and with little or no risk to himself, so his efforts weren't selfless.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Stop all moderation and let the lunatics run the asylum I say.

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They've all escaped. The wardens are just having a kickabout by themselves.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Clough.


And he ended up taking Forest down.

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You're spot on and you can see what happened with Forest, a manager being in charge too long loses his edge but still believes his way is the right way to the detriment of the club. That's very rare, but it has happened and we're seeing it again this time at Arsenal.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I have had a handful of posts deleted in the last few months, because of off colour remarks and humour

None of which in my view were justified, i don't think anyone on here is what i'd call thin skinned.

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I did delete a post recently, was that you? It was about the plane crash which killed that football team, I just thought it was a bit soon and tasteless.
And, for balance, I should say I made a joke in the Olympics which was a bit off colour - someone said something about it so I deleted my own post.
I don't think this place should be a free-for-all but I personally think we let a lot go. And as Maccy says, there are occasions where stuff posted online gets people in trouble - the incident he mentioned I believe the police got involved and stuff can end up in the press. This is a very low profile site so I accept that's unlikely but there should still be a line.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

What gets me about this place is the attempt to police things that are said, not even the Wenger discussion as that's completely anodyne anyway

And to be fair on Letters this tends to be more Macca than him, the need to delete things that might be seen as a little edgy

We are all adults on this site and we all know the difference between hyperbole and genuine sentiment.

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There is scum out there that wouldn't think twice about zapping the DNS of a little site like this, just because they can. You have to be very careful what you say these days, in this free country. I sympathise to a degree with anyone trying to run a forum for open debate. No such thing in this country, except in dark corners like times we thought were in the past.

That said, I'll never play along with limited speech. Speech goes with choice. I can't get a megaphone and shout into a letterbox because that's abusive, disturbing the peace and invading privacy. But I should be able to post whatever the fuck I want on a forum that people have a choice to view or not.