Match Reaction Stoke 1-0 Arsenal

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Originally Posted by Özim

Do you mean Welbeck?

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He's exposing himself. 20 goals in 6 years for Man Utd. Shocking. Ox should be playing in that position instead.

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Originally Posted by Penguin

Ramsey cannot play in central midfield until he learns common sense. We can't afford to have him wandering around in a free role and exposing our midfield. Especially when he's playing with Xhaka who doesn't have the legs to cover any ground.

Watch the goal again: http://arsenalist.com/f/2017-18/stok...-1-0-jese.html

Look at the player at the top right at the start of the video - yep the one in front of Lacazette and Welbeck. Yeah that's Ramsey. We end up losing the ball leaving two midfielders on Xhaka, so he dives in to a challenge in desperation because he knows those midfielders will easily pass around him. Our defending was bad too but that whole chance came about because of Ramsey.

That wasn't the first time that happened in the match. I was watching Ramsey and at one point he looked like he completely gave up on midfield to play as a striker. Our defenders couldn't get the ball up the pitch and Ozil had to keep coming deep to pick the ball off of them. It should be the CMs doing that and getting the ball to Ozil in those pockets of space he finds. We're a mess tactically.

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Ramsey, Ozil and Xhaka. It's a terrible trio. You get no defensive cover from either. No control of the midfield either. If we play Liverpool with this same line up and they press us high up the pitch, Xhaka will make the sort of the mistakes we saw yesterday and last week time and time again. Even when playing a team that are happy to surrender possession, they can't create many clear chances and struggle just to get the ball up the pitch.

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Originally Posted by rodders

Frankly I no longer care! Never thought I would ever feel like that.

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I am hoping to reach that stage very soon, I have definitely lost interest and my anger of a couple of seasons ago has nor turned to frustration and apathy. I havent fully switched off though. I am going to geniunely try and make a concerted effort to switch off this season, to stop watching games, it's not worth my time watching this oh so predictable season unravel.

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

Ramsey, Ozil and Xhaka. It's a terrible trio. You get no defensive cover from either. No control of the midfield either. If we play Liverpool with this same line up and they press us high up the pitch, Xhaka will make the sort of the mistakes we saw yesterday and last week time and time again. Even when playing a team that are happy to surrender possession, they can't create many clear chances and struggle just to get the ball up the pitch.

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agree with that, its really hard to understand how/why the coaching staff and manager cant see it when we all can.

havent watched the first two games this season and will probably miss the Liverpool game too. We will probably get thumped by 3 or 4 because we are a mess. There is no pressure on anyone to play well or win, there is no organisation on the pitch and its all about sideways passing.

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Originally Posted by AFC Leveller

agree with that, its really hard to understand how/why the coaching staff and manager cant see it when we all can.

havent watched the first two games this season and will probably miss the Liverpool game too. We will probably get thumped by 3 or 4 because we are a mess. There is no pressure on anyone to play well or win, there is no organisation on the pitch and its all about sideways passing.

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Was just reading Arseblog and I think it’s starting to dawn on people that Wenger is a fruit loop. It’s hard to make sense of the decisions he’s made over the weekend. It’s the sort of shit people wouldn’t even do for their own Fantasy Football team.

Guess the games in which Holding didnt play in?

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

Was just reading Arseblog and I think it’s starting to dawn on people that Wenger is a fruit loop. It’s hard to make sense of the decisions he’s made over the weekend. It’s the sort of shit people wouldn’t even do for their own Fantasy Football team.

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In 10 years, when Wenger's corpse has led us to relegation from the professional leagues, Arseblog might admit that perhaps, maybe, there's a tiny chance, Wenger could be at fault for something very, very minor.

Blasphemer!

Arseblog has been critical of Wenger for quite a long time.

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Originally Posted by selassie

I've gotten to the stage now where I hope we crash and burn if it means Wenger leaving. I'd happily take a mid table finish and the contract rebels amongst others walking out on free transfers if it meant Wenger walking.

Cant take another season of this and I honestly don't think we'll do much anyway this season so I'd rather we fail spectacularly if it meant change.

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I have been preaching this for over 5 years now. Been called out by 'real Arsenal fans' as someone who is a spud or a chav because of this. This club needs to sink lower before it gets better. No point getting top 4 or going on a 10 game unbeaten run.. its pointless. The ONLY way things will change is if things go down south real fast. Frankly anything other than relegation is fine with me. If you guarantee me a 17th place this season, I'll take it and happily take that as the end of the season!