No chance, Partey even playing shit is more reliable than a player who for all his stature seems to have no physical strength, no ability on the ball, easily dispossessed etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Should have been sold in the summer
No chance, Partey even playing shit is more reliable than a player who for all his stature seems to have no physical strength, no ability on the ball, easily dispossessed etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Should have been sold in the summer
all completely incorrect, I think you're thinking of SambiQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
No I’m thinking of myriad away games where he’s started and we’ve been pressed to death and couldn’t even get out of our own defensive third. We all blame Xhaka but this has happened in games where Elneny has played and Xhaka hasn’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Honestly he’s the worst player on the ball at the club, any pressing from another team and he goes to pieces quicker than you after a 2-2 draw at Anfield
Ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
You need to take a break, man.
Step away from the keyboard and lie down, ffs.
I know what i've seen, Elneny has been constantly underrated - not every good player is a flashy showy player - i guess you've all forgotten what a good job he did at the end of last season, which is why we kept him btwQuote:
Originally Posted by mandela8
Elneny is a 3rd choice DCM. He is an experienced player who has to be content with sitting on the bench and filling in when injuries or circumstances require it. His wages are low. He is unspectaculer but generally solid and dependable; he seems to be able to play from 'cold' in terms of match time, and he never loses his head. Given these parameters, as you say I am really struggling to think what 'upgrade' would be content with his role, or why getting rid of him is of particular benefit to our team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Oh I remember what he did alright. Especially in the games like Spurs and Newcastle away where we had zero control in the middle of the park.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
In a way I do understand that he’s a player that can be brought on to sit in front of the defence and break things up….but when you need some level of control of the ball in the middle of the park when a game is at 0-0 away from home…yeah not so good
This from Lewis Ambrose's Tactics column on Arseblog:
If Partey didn’t push to press, City found gaps to play through Arsenal all the same. These players are fluent in Guardiola’s language in a way that Arsenal aren’t in Arteta’s yet. They can make these tweaks because they know exactly what to do and how it will play out. You can see from his constant barking of orders on the touchline that Arteta does not believe his players yet know how to adapt.
Guardiola saw Arsenal’s high press coming from a mile off and Arteta did not adjust. We should remember he is still a young manager and Guardiola is (in)famous for making errors in big games even now. Maybe in time Arteta will get there when it comes to tweaking. And even with a better gameplan on Wednesday, it’s hard to see how an Arsenal side that couldn’t string passes together or compete physically would have stood a chance. Maybe there was a golden bullet solution Arteta couldn’t see. Maybe this result was inevitable anyway.
Food for thought...
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Originally Posted by IBK
Speaking for myself a 1-0 defeat where we’ve put everything into it, is no real different to me than a 4-1 defeat where City were able to win ridiculously easy. And ultimately I think the issue against City is the issue I’ve constantly raised about our central midfield.
You say that Xhaka is a lightning Rod, but ultimately how can he not be when we know that even when by his standards he’s had a decent season he’s not good enough for us to go toe to toe with City/Liverpool …Partey for all his flaws in the last few weeks probably is but without a midfield partner at his level it’s all for nought.
I think Guardiola as this master tactician is massively overstated, he has always been at clubs where he’s able to afford top oven ready professionals rather than polish rough diamonds. Odegaard has been in my opinion our most improved player this season yet he still doesn’t look quite at the level where we can go away to city or Liverpool and do what he does in other games…he retreats and becomes anonymous. He’s only 24, maybe he will become that player I don’t know.
But ultimately this comes down to central midfield being the main area of focus for squad reinforcement in the summer
When we blew 4th place??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Look, Elneny is fuckin shite. The most basic of water carriers/ball movers. This is one of the absolutes in fitba. I won't even dignify this further, tbh.