:gp: Had those 2 not squandered their chances they would have won that game. What lost us the game was not have any game changers on the bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntos Claus
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:gp: Had those 2 not squandered their chances they would have won that game. What lost us the game was not have any game changers on the bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntos Claus
I'm one of those who only posts after a bad result, so in lieu of not posting for about 2 months, congrats to Arsene etc for turning the season around. I was one of those back in September who said he should go and I've been proved wrong - very pleased to say that.
But today.....we lost the game in the first half. Theo is actually bloody useless. Am I allowed to say that? RVP must be tearing his hair out. What reason can he have to stick around if he is surrounded by players like Walcott? If you strip away everything that comes with the Theo package and just look at him as a footballer.....well, he's crap and that's it. What's the point of pretending any more?
That's about it. We had four players, two starters, two subs, who accomplished nothing over 90 minutes. Plus a midfield that looked knackered, a defence held together by sticky tape and a Chesney off-day. We ran out of steam, ran out of ideas, ran headlong into one too many defenders and lost. Sucks. A complete transformation required for the next PL game. If we can't beat Swansea and beat them well then let's call it a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
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welcome back the goal king, we need some serious finishing help :(
Is this the same RVP who has praised Theo time and time again for assisting him time and time again?Quote:
Originally Posted by notwist
If anyone can get the ball to him in the first place. I imagine Henry will break his face if he decides to give Theo a stare after every fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by WengerISaLizard
Like RvP is going to come out and proclaim Theo is shit. Usually that sort of talk is reserved for players who need a confidence boost. So RvP's words and the intervention of a brain surgeon might see Theo hit some form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
And all those assists are made up too i assume?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
:lol:
This Theo bashing is quality. Ridiculous but quality. Not quite as Zimm v Ade level yet but in time who knows
he put up with adebayor, so his experienced with fuck ups, but he is older....Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yep Benzema and Goteze pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
So maybe a string of understanding sighs and the odd chuckle - provided he doesn't get injured laughing.Quote:
Originally Posted by WengerISaLizard
Hasn't that been the case over the past few weeks? Wenger made the wrong subs. He got it tactically wrong. The subs didn't help us and we were actually winning the game before the subs and some how lost. Facts are facts. We were still up until we changed our shape. Take your focus off Theo and ask yourself if it was wise to play an aging slow central midfield player to cover Djourou playing at right back? Then to take off Gervinho and play another slow central player to cover young Coqulin at right back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
No chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
We are a mid level club who happen to be in the CL.
The likes of Arteta and and players at his level are our market these days.
The top players will go elsehwere
Blame the board :NQ:Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
No, not the wisest move but the alternatives were Arshavin, maybe not the most reliable when you are trying to hold a lead, and Chamakh (nothing needs to be said here). I wonder if Wenger even gave permission for Rosicky to fuck off all over the pitch and completely abandon his defensive duties, that would have been a very strange call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
That doesn't make any sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
At all.
Yet Dortdmund are world classQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
It will at the end of the season when we are a mid level club who arent in the CLQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
We're not a mid level club, we just happen to be run like one...
He's not a right winger and i don't think Wenger sent him on to bomb up and down the flanks. He came on to help the middle and get possession back from the middle. It just made things worse. Ramsey or Arteta should have made way if he wanted us to control the midfield. The subs just caused confusion and clutter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
They are Champions in their league. We can't really talk on that front.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Don't watch their league so can't comentate on it, as for seeing them in the cl, they never seemed like a team that would scare the best in europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
There were a few other factors, such as a sending-off, an utterly dodgy ref, general weariness - I posted at the time that Fulham were getting on top and that was before any substitutions. Should never have got to that though, we should have been a couple up by half time but the usual suspects blew it. It's very fair to criticise them for a performance like that, less fair to suggest they were doing anything much to stem the tide. It'll be interesting to rewatch this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Quite simply awful substitutions from Wenger. He lost us the game.
Wally and Gerv are pretty shit but they have pace to burn and keep Fulham on the back foot. Take them off and Fulham can pile forward.
Sometimes football really is that simple.
Summed up 14 pages in that one postQuote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
In hindsight I agree, it was the removal of our two worst players that lost us the points. The sending off, sub-par performances, goalkeeping mistakes, shitty defending and Fulham FC had nothing to do with the result.
Grebbo gotta an angle there.
But We put ourselves in the position by not getting another goal, this has been happening the last few games, at tje moment Im thinking back as far as the Villa game. . .we go one up and that is tje extent of things, the rest of the match is eiither watching ourselves waste chance after chance or the inevitable leveller and last nights game the clincher for Fulham.
We have lost the ability to be ruthless, the team that never gave up against Chelsea is not taking the field with the same frame of mind. . . .it may be fatigue, I dont know but we gave to understand that we more than other teams perhaps rely a lot on momentum and that is somwthing we have lost.
I say more than other teams because 1) our squad isnt strong enough or at least the players coming on arent 2) we dont have the luxury of losing the odd game like Utd or Citeh. Sure I appreciate games will be lost but we need the first 11 to bury games we go ahead in especially against weaker oppo!
I mean whst did Theo contribute to the game except shoot ridiculously over the bar, waste opportunities to cross or take on his man and although I like Gerv, I level the same criticism at him too.
These players should be taking it up a notch putting RvP in positions to score more not fucking things up and the raising their hands in some half arsed apology.
People maty say Utd lost against BLACKBURN etc but they can, we cant lose games we go ahead in. . .Utd have their battle with Citeh, we have ours to get as high up the table as possible.
I imagine will already be over their loss we need to do the same. . .by rhe time of the next game we need to have grown a pair and start winning again. . .lets see what Wenger can do will additions and possible departures in the squad and move on.
I will say again that I think the overall mental of the team is better, last night aside!, we need to bring in people prepated to battle and get rid of those who think that everything should be served on a plate - a few so called fans could take note of that thought too IMO
It's what a lot of us suspected about being over-reliant on RVP, the rest of the attack is being exposed now. RVP hasn't been prolific for the past 5-6 games and the team is now scraping the barrel for goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
[QUOTE=Marc Overmars;80952]It's what a lot of us suspected about being over-reliant on RVP, the rest of the attack is being exposed now. RVP hasn't been prolific for the past 5-6 games and the team is now scraping the barrel for goals.[/QUOTE
Enter the King. . .:Thierry Henry: (talk about go from one kind of reliance to another! ! :gulp:)
Gervinho is far from shit, he's problem is finishing, he consistently gets himself in good positions. We just need him to make good on about 20-30 percent of runs great runs he makes. And that's something that can improve, if he's willing to work at it.
Theo on the other hand rarely gets in those positions that Gerv gets into, cause for most part, he still has below average ball skills, he essentially makes the same run every time he gets the ball on the flanks. He' basically on really good in open space off the ball.
Positives so far from this season, we got a damn player in the young man Coquelin, give him that extension.
There really is one person to blame- AW! What does he tell the team at HT? What goes on in the dressing room? Even in the under 18's, we were told that if we are holding a lead and the opposition is on top, to roll on the ground and slow the game down.. RVP seems like a good captain off the field and a great player but I'd like him go to one or two of those cunts and bitch slap them to give in some extra effort for the last few minutes!
Isnt our team built around the philosophy that we like it when the other team plays open. That falls into our hands... I understand teams like Utd, Barca, Madrid beating us at our own game but FFS this is Fulham!! We looked like relegation fodder who got a fluke goal holding onto dear life. We need some real motivators in the dressing room and the main man- AW is a total failure in that department. Bring on MON!
I literally cant put into words how fucked off I am at this loss
Me too, but do we take solace from the fact that we have come to expect this shit? Or does that make it worse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Good King Wojciechlaslas
All this talk about our attackers....two of them came off and we still couldn't control the game even though they are supposed to be better technical players.
That Rambo and Arteta combo needs to be looked into. Our possession has been shit for a while and it stems from that combo. Fulham were running right through us and we were soon overwhelmed.
I guess there are 2 ways of looking at it as there so often is.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Xs-
1. Aside from a wank referee and some extraordinary goalkeeping we would have won by 3 or 4 clear goals. No need to be downhearted we are tired and now have the best part of 2 weeks off while the transfer window is open to get some full backs who we miss badly in/fit and things we be so much better in our next league game.
2. Its a fucking disgrace when we cant hit a cows arse with a banjo, some players just stand out as shite others have the ability but seemingly no desire. If the players are knackered rotate and start with ones who aren't, why is Arshavin and the Ox not playing on the wings? Why is RvP playing when Chamakh could have started. Why didnt we rush henry's loan though and get him a game in this? Why send Frimpong out on loan when its clear that Songtetamsey are all out on their feet? Why cant we shoot straight? What is the point in per meatpacker? Djorou? and so on
And yet you give him no credit for our good run which has seen us recover from our awful start and get into contention for the top 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
:shrug:
I simply don't take you seriously anymore. I reckon you're attracted to men (there is nothing wrong with that) and you're opinion on players is based on how sexy you find them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
And quite frankly, your taste in men is about as good as your taste in TV and music.
:haha:
Edit: what do you mean 'anymore', you ever did?
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank