I see we're pretty serious about keeping RvP then. Is it in the rules the captain has to keep a straight face when the manager is making a complete cock of himself?
All in all a great day, only good can come of this.
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Aresene? ESPN. :lol: What a ramshackle operation.
50,000 subs in 30 years?
Someone's bad at math...
I wonder if we can destabilise Ox and shift him out the door before the 31st of the month?
If arry does get the england job, i think wenger would be awesome as manager of tottenham.
Might watch MOTD 2 to see what Lee Dixon has to say.
Seriously though, has Ox never played 90 minutes? Wenger talks as if a 90 minute run out is going to kill the kid. He wasn't playing him anyway so what's the big deal if he ended up a bit puffed out? He'll have another 3 months to recover I suppose.
This, even if we were 4-1 up and he took ox off he still would have got booed it was the principle of the thing and wenger is not getting it. how ever some persepsepetive, we never lost the game because of th sub we lost the game because our team was shite as usual.
too many journey men today thats what the reporter should have asked. Once again the team is being allowed to escape how awlful they were because of this sub thing.
Sorry if someone posted this already, cba checking
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http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/englan...hamberlain-forQuote:
Arsene Wenger has admitted he made a mistake with his crucial second-half substitution in Arsenal’s 2-1 defeat to Manchester United but explained that he had good reason to replace rookie Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain with Andrey Arshavin.
The Gunners manager’s decision to withdraw the excellent Oxlade-Chamberlain in the 74th minute shortly after the teenager had set-up Robin van Persie’s goal was greeted with jeers at the Emirates Stadium.
Wenger said: “When it was 1-1 it looked like we would win but in the end one tactical mistake lost us the game.
“I do not want to dwell too much on that now but one second of inattention can cost you.
“I can understand that the fans are upset and frustrated about the decision, especially when it doesn’t work. That means that you made the right decision at the start of the game.
“He [Oxlade-Chamberlain] had started to fatigue and stretch his calf. He was sick during the week. Arshavin is the captain of the Russia national team and he is replacing a guy of 17 or 18 who is starting his first or second [Premier League] game.
“People pay for their tickets and are free to express their emotions. It doesn't mean they are right always.
“I have to stand up for the substitutions I make. I don't have to explain every single decision. I’m 30 years in the job, I have made 50,000 substitutions. I do not have to explain myself to you.”
The Arsenal boss said he did not blame Arshavin for being knocked off the ball so easily by Antonio Valencia in the build-up to United’s winner - eventually smashed home by Danny Welbeck after good work from the Ecuador winger.
“If you expect me to blame one player, it will not happen,” he said. “We win together and lose together. If I make a mistake I am sorry.
“It [the mistake by Arshavin] could have happened as well if he [Oxlade-Chamberlain] had stayed on. Manchester United are very dangerous on the flanks.”
Arsenal supporters urged Wenger to spend some of the £50 million transfer kitty at his disposal at the final whistle but the Frenchman said: “Spending money is not the target.
“Buying good players is the target. We need our own players back. People are not conscious that we miss 10 players.”
Wenger was disappointed by his team’s first league defeat at home since August, which leaves Arsenal five points behind fourth-placed Chelsea.
“I am really disappointed. We were nervous in the first half, but we came back well with a fantastic fighting spirit,” he continued.
“United are a bit more mature than us. To battle like we did and come out with nothing is tough to take.
“It leaves us in a difficult position, because we couldn't afford to lose. But there are a lot of positives, too.”
To battle like we did and come out with nothing is tough to take, what game was he watching had we battled we may have won the game. Also as for there being postives mr wenger you took him off you pleb
tbh I thought the booing of him was out of order. I understand booing the substitution but the boo when Arshavin's name was given out...well that's just stupid and unhelpful. Of course I understand people's frustrations but there's no sense in the crowd booing a player who has just come on when everyone knows he's desperately lacking confidence to begin with.
It was the decision I think people were booing. I don't think it was aimed at Arshavin. Shame he had to come on to that, but if it was Ramsey or Theo coming off for him the crowd wouldn't have reacted like that.
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-ne...senal-strongerQuote:
Arsenal winger Alex Oxlade-chamberlain believes they can come back a stronger side if they learn from the mistakes they made in their 2-1 defeat to Manchester United.
In his first Premier League start for the Gunners the 18-year-old showed maturity beyond his years with an impressive performance, which included an assist for Robin Van Persie’s 71st minute strike.
And speaking after the defeat he reckons that if the squad pull together, with the quality they have at their disposal, they can challenge for a place in the top four.
Oxlade-Chamberlain said: “We go out to win every game so when we don’t it’s obviously a blow to the team but all we can do is keep coming back and try and push on from disappointing results like this. I think it can only make us stronger.
“We’ve got to learn some lessons from the mistakes that we make but that’s all part of making a good team.
“There is always confidence. This is Arsenal football club. We’ve got some absolutely top quality players who are capable of all sorts of things.
“I think we just need to stick together as a team now and come out of this sticky patch and come out of it better.”
Meanwhile many Arsenal fans were disappointed to see the summer signing from Southampton substituted in the 74th minute.
But the England Under-21 international respects his manager’s decision to take him off, insisting they have to trust the Frenchman’s instinct.
“It’s the boss’ decision at the end of the day,” added Oxlade-Chamberlain. “He is the boss and he’s a top quality manager, you’ve seen how many years he’s been at Arsenal and all the great decisions he’s made, so whatever the decision is I will respect him.
“It’s always nice when the fans are on your side, you’ve just got to keep going out there each week and try to please them and do as well as you can for the team and the manager.”
Agree with the posters above.
Doubt it was Arshavin being booed. It was the decision to take AOC off that was booed and rightly so.
Also what do we do with Djourou?
Surely the end is here for him as well. Hauled off at half time and Yennaris looking better there than Djo ever has. In fact looked better than Jenkinson as well which admittedly isnt hard.
Yennaris 2nd choice RB behind Sagna then?