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I'm still waiting for him to replace Lehmann and Gilberto and Sol Campbell who was our last decent CB to leave...never mind a Song or RVP replacement...start from the back and a GK in January with a defensive midfielder should be our priority, no question, as well as holding on to our current top scorer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
still waiting for a Pires and Ljungberg as well tbh. He won't buy, Ivan needs more yachts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
LOL sadly true.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Right now, we just need someone to sort this lot out defensively.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
He's not letting Bould do what he needs to do. What's the point in having a number two of you won't let him do what he's good at.....
Come to think of it, the loony won't let anyone do what they're best at.
Stopwatch triangle passing practice wanker!
was i the only one that was genuinely happy when arteta missed the penalty
Why were you genuinely happy? Most true gooners would take a free three points if they were offered it, regardless that it wasn't even a pen and we are playing like crap at the moment, points are points - the higher we finish the more money we pay to the shareholders remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
I wouldn't say genuinely happy, but it was expected, arteta had possibly his worst game since joining us, his body shape before the pen was all wrong - his run-up predictable and his shot weak....sort of mirrors our last 7 seasons, shape all wrong, predictable play, mentally weak...these are what we turn players into...pampered, sideways passing, no never-say die attitude, and no balls to be the players they could and should be...even the ox looks to have succumbed to the passing instead of running at defenders ...and this early on too.
season over in november. how is this tolerated every year?
we barely kick off and we know we're not winning anything.
how depressing.
Because people are still filling seats - that's why - last game I paid to see was Arsenal v Villa 27/12/09 - Cesc came on to score 2 and then went off injured, think we won 3-0 in the end... and I've been going regularly since 1993, singing my heart out all game but enough is enough now - not only am I pretty much priced out of a ticket, but why should I tolerate paying money to watch the team now? You can call me lesser of a fan, but I don't think so...it's exactly the problem with Arsenal right now - the fans tolerate what's going on. I absolutely hate the thought of Usmanov having anything to do with our club - but something needs to change with its direction somewhere - not usmanov or dein but something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
If we all put our money where our mouths were at the beginning of this season, last season, the season before that, we'd still be depressed.
But at least we'd be rich.
Pretty much, seems like Zimm had a breakdown tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Its down to the manager and the players. I say the manager, because really he should have made the squad stronger then it is. He relys on players like Diaby who are never fit or players like Ramsey and Santos who are not good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I say the players, because loads of players in the world would love to play for Arsenal football club. These players don't seem to want to take their chance and then complain that they don't play enough games or how they don't get to play where they want.
None of our players have been consistent this season.
if you were genuinely happy at that, that makes you a massive ****Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
that rumour comes from robson who has offered nothing substantial to back it up. it makes no sense to allow someone to start work, see it work well, then stop them. not even wenger is that nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
perhaps bould is just a shit defensive coach. sure he done alright with kids but this is with the big boys, different league and expectations. maybe what we saw at the start of the season was just enthusiasm from players and now that has worn off, i don't know.
Same was said about Theo and AOCQuote:
Originally Posted by Joker
Funny he knows he is effective on the right but people on here are crying cause they think he is better up top. So why is he not signing a deal then. He does play on the right for us so it can't be that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
the only thing the board had going for them in previous years was hope. hope that our players would buck up and win something. unfortunately as time passed we sold them all, one by one, and negated our squad to the most average point it has been in years. now they cant fall back on that hope because a load of us have seen light. a lot of friends have stopped going and loads of arsenal fans have given up. ive boycotted home games because a. the atmosphere is rubbish b. for a home game its way too expensive c. the emirates doesnt feel like home. i go to away games because the old army are there and its great to see everyone (plus the fact i love away days) and i personally think the players deserve some sort of support when stepping foot in another territory, after all, its not their fault the board and manager are acting this way. but even that commitment has died down to once every so often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
its a shame but thats the way it is. i dont think the board want dinosaurs at the games anyway. we dont put up with this tosh, unlike the new breed.
Answered your own question there, the poster is not a gooner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Yet we still hope and won't give up till we are out of everything, thats what we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
The CF demand is purely to detract from the money he wants and the fact what he really wants is out, sadly. Can't blame him really...the club is a shambles right now - how he ever got down to his last year in his contract is incredible...and there is no way we'll be offering him CL at the end of this season - so he will refuse to sign and be sold in Jan to ...man u...can't really see any other scenario to be fair. Man u need an extra midfielder - he's played with van persie before, he's finally learnt how to cross and he scores a goal or two...they'll get him for less than we paid for him I'm sure as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Think that was the plan and winning the CC a few years ago, would have been something to shut the fans up. I agree with Bergkampwonderland10 i too don't want the fat russian in charge of this club, but something does need to be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
Not sure why Dein thought it would be a good idea to ever bring Stan to the club.
He'd have to be much much better then he is to go to Utd. You have to be ready when you go there, no messing around and no time for his inconsistant performances. he would have to up his game 110%, funny though loads of utd fans i've asked if they would want him, not one did. Yeah i know it means nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
he done a lot of good things for us but the introduction of stan, with dein's departure ending with a huge pay off selling to russian smells just as dodgy as the bs all our current and former share holders have been up to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
:) Well I know I'm getting on a bit at 32 but not been included in the dinosaur category before!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
I followed Arsenal since '88 when I first started to understand the game really - and it's been a real journey - nayim from the half way line - still hurts like it was yesterday as does our CL league final loss- but it's the last few seasons have really not been enjoyable at all - and it's sad to feel deflated and even indifferent towards something that used to offer such a rollercoaster of emotions- am hoping there's a way out of the rut and Arsenal can become the club I once saw it as, not perfect, but all heart. maybe it's with dinosaur age, you just become a little more cynical, realistic, and accepting that what we had, we will never experience again.
Am calling it a night - far too depressing to think about. :tumbleweed:
Utter wank (other than our first two goals, great link/ perfectly timed runs/ good finishes).Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
yeah that CC defeat was where it all began. we never recovered from that defeat. if we won the carling cup i genuinely believe it would have kickstarted a serious run and belief in our squad. players would have gained some sort of winning mentality and it may have opened the floodgates. instead what happened was that we lost and the team went awol. we hit rock bottom. players stopped believing in wenger and his policies and that was the point we should have departed. what we are seeing now is the dragging out of the inevitable to help the status quo milk their millions for every pound they can. we are nothing but a bunch of peasants aimlessly roaming the streets, compounded by the social elite above us who look down with disgust, sipping their fine wine and feasting on their banquet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
what were you more angry at when you left the stadium - missing the pen, giroud for not taking it or our defence for letting the game slip?Quote:
Originally Posted by Injury Time
1991 i started following the boys. 8 years old with all my mates at school and ever since then i have been in love with this club. I was never your season ticket type, just could not afford one. Like you say we have seen bad times and amazing times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
Even at the Emirates the 1st 4 years were ok, i don't think i was expecting us to win anything big in that time as we were paying of the staduim. But for most of that time we played the best footie in the country. Now we don't even do that.
The days when Gooners use to shout "who cares about the league cup, its a mickey mouse cup". How times change eh. I suppose knowing we will won day win something again soon gets me going.
Pretty much all as bad at the other. Only good thing Dein did was keep AW on the straight and narrow. Though he did stilly things too, like trying to get us to play at wembely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Giroud for not taking the pen for me...sorry I am a fan of his...love his movement, think he's a great addition and now he's scoring ... but...he came here saying 'he didn't expect to play, he thought he'd be a sub' just not the mentality this team needs to have let alone broadcast in public - and today, if he's to become a world beater, a risk-taker - he should have grabbed that ball from Arteta without a moments thought....sadly he is not going to be a world-beater - just a good player with another - 'accepting' personality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
the old school dont put up with this rubbish. they question every decision and demand answers. they understand wenger built much of the standards we now expect but they also expect those standards to be kept, not used as an excuse to blindly defend wenger. we wouldnt be here without wenger but its no excuse to accept defeat and feel sorry for ourselves. for how many years do you pray an old dog learns new tricks? the same dog who had success almost a decade ago? we're sitting here complaining about a poor squad when there's resources to be spent. there are no excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
I know this may sound arrogant, but i really do think had we won that CC we'd have won the league that year too. Like you said players lost faith even if they are C***S. It showed we to Old Trafford got knocked out the fa cup. Not to mention that Cl game, where Cesc thought he was already on Messi's team and that Bendtner miss and RVP getting sent off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
Personally, i hope we win the CC and Wenger resigns, with some diginty at least, then we can rebuild.
I'll never give up hope.
most true gooners would have seen a win as paper cover up the cracks. We didn't deserve to win, the more bad results we get the more ivan and stan will be forced to change their mentality towards our football clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Here's hoping :trophy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Our "midfield" & "defence" for being non existent, unorganised, weak minded bags of such rancid gash that even a GUM clinic would just kill them with fire for stinking so bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Spot on, got to say your a top poster and the fact you go to away games and stay there when were 4-0 down to Reading shows you fucking care. No one can tell me diffrent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
I think its a generational thing, Those that have only Known Wenger as our manager will defend him more, cause they are scared of whats coming next. Those who known the likes of GG etc, Know the unknown to have been good, AKA Wengers early years. You also have the oldies, who saw games in the 70's and had times that were much worse then this, so i guess they keep the faith.
I mean Pool fans in the 70's have been much lucky then Pool fans now.
Yep that's the question to ask and the only answer is the defence. Anyone can miss a pen so it's not Arteta's fault (even though he was pure crap today). You can't blame Giroud when we all know Wenger has pre-determined the penalty takers. Giroud was our best player in both attack and defence. On the few occasions we effectively cleared a set piece it was always Giroud winner the headers out. For all of Merts good reading of games, critical interceptions etc this season the guy is appalling in the air. Kos is just a constant brain fart and Sagna seemed to have the wrong studs on as he spent more time on his arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
We seriously miss Gibbs in both a defensive and attacking sense. We had no go forward down our left flank at all today.
I just finished watching the Everton game, Fellaini is surely a must-get in January
Yeah but we still would have loved the 3 points. Thats as dumb as saying id have loved us to miss a pen in the final of the fa cup because at leat then it will show the board how bad we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
We miss Gibbs and Jenks tbh. Jenks never should have been dropped. We miss Chesney too we really do. I just don't think our defence has faith in Mannoe like it does Ches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaman's Ponytail
Like you say anyone can miss a pen and if he scored it would be a diffrent issue, we'd be saying good win but how the defence we need to improve.
GUM clinics :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Injury Time
giving charlie hope since last friday :bow:
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Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
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Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
He doesnt have any
I wouldnt say i was happy but i expected it so wasnt too upset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
I am a naturally optimistic poster though so i see the best in every situation and him missing means we dont paper over the cracks that a win will surely have done