Mathieu Flamini Thread (official)

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

havnt seen this from anywhere official yet but some rumours appearing that flamini said to wilson after he fouled jack "do it again and i will blind you"


probably bollocks but please be true. that would be fantastic. scoring from set piece goals, threatening their players. well and truly out stoking stoke

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Jesus christ I've just fallen in love with him even more.

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flamini reminds me of lauren. if anyone kicks any of our players, they will jsut hunt them down and kick them back

Just like Paddy! :lol:

Legend!

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Technical ability is one thing but Arteta doesn't hustle for the ball and make space for himself if marked. He stays at one pace and will point for defence to hit it long or out wide if he can't shake his marker. He's not the most agile player and can't play on the half turn. Not saying Flamini is the most technically gifted but I could see from yesterday's game that he'd at least try to relieve pressure from the defence and give them a passing option. You'll just have to watch how he reacts when he's back in the team to see the difference.

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I already know 'the difference' you are talking about, Arteta does tend not to want the ball when in traffic, but the problem was exacerbated by him being the only midfield out ball. Now any one of Wilshere, Ramsey or even Ozil drop deep to pick up the ball.

As I said, no-one has tried marking Flamini, so at present we can't be sure how he would manage that sort of pressure.
The only pointer I can think of was yesterday when Szcez gave him a pass with a couple of orcs around him.
In that instance he did very well to control the ball and come out with possession.

Irrespective of that, relying on your DMs to get out of tight spots is inherently dangerous. Flamini may be well suited to tight games where the opposition press, whereas Arteta may better suit games where possession and controlling tempo is more important, such as in Europe.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

havnt seen this from anywhere official yet but some rumours appearing that flamini said to wilson after he fouled jack "do it again and i will blind you"


probably bollocks but please be true. that would be fantastic. scoring from set piece goals, threatening their players. well and truly out stoking stoke

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Now there's something Arteta probably wouldn't do...

MF Enforcer :bow:

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

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:haha:

"Do it again and I'll blind you"

sounds like something out of Taken :haha:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUxrEu_CAAAaS2E.jpg

Lightyears ahead of Felliani as a central midfielder. Wenger knows.

Aaaargh! Ye Olde Arsenale

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

Having a proper DM gives confidence to players like Jack and Ramsey to go forward knowing someone is there to cover their arse properly. You put someone like Cabaye there and eventually he'll drift forward forgetting his defensive duties, leaving us screwed for the counter. At least with someone like Flamini you minimise that.

You've categorised Flamini with the rest of the players but he's very different from what we have. He's the only real tough tackling player in the whole team. Yesterday he clattered his way around the pitch and although it seemed a nuisance to concede free kicks, it gave our players a vote of confidence knowing their 'backs were covered', as to speak. We don't need players that are good on the ball, we have plenty of them. We need an imposing c*nt like Flamini who just wants to win the ball back.

The sight of him going straight into Diakite in the second half and leaving him squealing on the floor, god that made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. We've missed that over the years.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

It makes a big difference having a DM that's comfortable on the ball. Remember when United stuck Rooney on Arteta and shut us down. We struggled to get the ball out of our half and we'll have the same sort of problem against high pressing teams. Was watching the City game and Yaya was just immense. Was able to collect from deep areas and just turn and shrug players off to help mount attacks. I remember when Vieira left they did an analysis of on his role of the club and why we miss him. It was the simple stuff. Just collecting the ball from deep and passing it off. It's an important part to our game. It's good to see Flamini back in the squad.

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A picture showing average player position on sunday:

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...png?1379955210

Flamini is positioned perfectly.

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

"Do it again and I'll blind you"

sounds like something out of Taken :haha:

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Would even better had he said 'do that again and il find you whilst you're sleeping and cut your throat, rape your wife and burn your children in theyre beds'.

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Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann

I already know 'the difference' you are talking about, Arteta does tend not to want the ball when in traffic, but the problem was exacerbated by him being the only midfield out ball. Now any one of Wilshere, Ramsey or even Ozil drop deep to pick up the ball.

As I said, no-one has tried marking Flamini, so at present we can't be sure how he would manage that sort of pressure.
The only pointer I can think of was yesterday when Szcez gave him a pass with a couple of orcs around him.
In that instance he did very well to control the ball and come out with possession.

Irrespective of that, relying on your DMs to get out of tight spots is inherently dangerous. Flamini may be well suited to tight games where the opposition press, whereas Arteta may better suit games where possession and controlling tempo is more important, such as in Europe.



Now there's something Arteta probably wouldn't do...

MF Enforcer :bow:

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It’s very risky for the DM to have to accept the ball in traffic and tight spots but we’re an attacking team and it’s something I’ve come to expect from a modern day DM. Song was fantastic at dealing with the traffic and it allowed Cesc to roam deeper upfield and stay there. He was confident enough to take on the pressure and pass the ball off safely. At least Arteta is aware of his imitations and isn’t foolish enough to accept the pass under pressure and then get dispossessed. But it also doesn’t help when Ramsey and Wilshere leave massive pockets of space around the field. They core trio don’t play tight enough together. We’re a million miles away from that glorious Old Trafford 1 nil victory. That area needs some fine tuning and we have plenty of options now.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

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:haha: :bow: :haha: :bow:

Finally the kind of player we've lacked, a proper hard man.

So far much better than the 27.5M Fellaini who has looked nowhere near good enough for a top four team. Wenger :bow:

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Originally Posted by Boss

:haha: :bow: :haha: :bow:

Finally the kind of player we've lacked, a proper hard man.

So far much better than the 27.5M Fellaini who has looked nowhere near good enough for a top four team. Wenger :bow:

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Any youtube clips of him walking up to him? Awesome if true :bow:

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Originally Posted by JonasTC

Any youtube clips of him walking up to him? Awesome if true :bow:

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Look, it didnt happen. But that doesnt take was from the fact hes started well.

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Best value for no money ever?

Flamini > Ozil so far tbfh.

Will certain posters finally admit Flamini offers much more than Arteta in pretty much every department? Or shall we keep pretending Arteta is superior?

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

Will certain posters finally admit Flamini offers much more than Arteta in pretty much every department? Or shall we keep pretending Arteta is superior?

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Can't deny it's working very well with Flamini and Ramsey there. Also noticeable that we have adapted our approach so we are not necessarily trying to dominate possession, thus Flamini's shortcomings in this regard are less exposed. I said in another thread that Ramsey's role had changed since last year but in truth it hasn't really. He is a proper all-round CM. So right now the Flamini-Ramsey combination has a good balance and is serving the team very well.

Flams has started the season very well and is growing into his role, love his spirit, real grafter that does the dirty things well.

Flamini's ultra cynical foul to break up a Swansea counter was a thing of beauty. Just took the player out.

He's a warrior amd a fighter and I love it. Another good game from him yesterday

So our best signing this season is a free transfer? :D

I'm genuinely amazed at how well Flamini has been playing, it's like that time at AC Milan never happened.

Credit where its due, i didnt want gim back after the way he walked out on the club but his performances so far have bene first class. Pure passion and works so hard.

Arteta will have to get cosy on that bench by the looks of it.

seen this on twitter, this has to be flamini's chant

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he's french, hes free, he'll break your fucking knee

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvSHDnwZCL8

Wenger :bow:
Flamini :bow:

Fellaini :pal:
Me :doh:

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Originally Posted by AFC Leveller

Credit where its due, i didnt want gim back after the way he walked out on the club but his performances so far have bene first class. Pure passion and works so hard.

Arteta will have to get cosy on that bench by the looks of it.

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Yep me too, didn't want him.

He really has surprised me with his performances TBH, not only does he graft and bark orders, he's actually contributing offensively/technically too.

I love him, what a beast!

Always thought he was a useful player just very underwhelmed by the signing during those dark pre-Özil days. However now it appears to be a very shrewd move from Wenget.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

seen this on twitter, this has to be flamini's chant



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Beautiful :d

He provides the sort of depth we never should have done without really. The line up yesterday was ostensibly a cautious one with both Arteta and Flamini in there and no wingers but the team performed brilliantly. The fluidity in attack is great. Apart form Arteta and Flamini you can't tell where on earth anyone else is supposed to be playing.

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Originally Posted by tpyo

So our best signing this season is a free transfer? :D

I'm genuinely amazed at how well Flamini has been playing, it's like that time at AC Milan never happened.

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i was very sceptical about the signing but he has proved good value for money

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Originally Posted by Bumble

i was very sceptical about the signing but he has proved good value for money

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He was always feisty, a take no shit and prisoners type of player, excellent addition to the team. Merte, Kos and Vermaelen have always been somewhat docile, Flam adds a steely edge.

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Originally Posted by Bumble

i was very sceptical about the signing but he has proved good value for money

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Ouch.

:d Chortle

Squawka is claiming that Flamini had a 100% tackle success rate against Napoli, as well as a 96% pass completion success rate! Don't know if that's completely accurate or not (I can't imagine he went the whole game without fouling anyone, unless fouls count as successful tackles?), but even if they're a few percent out, it's still impressive.

Another interesting stat from Le-grove this morning - apparently we've only lost 1 of the last 34 games we've played with Flamini in the side...

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Originally Posted by I am invisible

Squawka is claiming that Flamini had a 100% tackle success rate against Napoli, as well as a 96% pass completion success rate! Don't know if that's completely accurate or not (I can't imagine he went the whole game without fouling anyone, unless fouls count as successful tackles?), but even if they're a few percent out, it's still impressive.

Another interesting stat from Le-grove this morning - apparently we've only lost 1 of the last 34 games we've played with Flamini in the side...

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What was the game?
Liverpool in the CL? Can't remember us losing many in the league that season.

Yeah that Liverpool game was his last match for us as he went off injured. We only lost 3 league games that season but bombed in the last 3 months. :(

I'm sure he synically chopped someone down against Napoli so that 100% tackle rate is probably not true. It brought about some hearty laughter from the GHELs I was sitting with.

That game was well over 5 years ago. 5 years!

Fuck I'm getting old :crying:

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Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss

That game was well over 5 years ago. 5 years!

Fuck I'm getting old :crying:

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It was never a penalty :(

This season is 10 years since the Invincibles. Now that really makes me feel old.

My mate who's a teacher always tells his kids about how good Arsenal were as they have little recollection of the pre-Emirates era and have grown up thinking we were always shite...

Damn , remember jumping around when Feo done that run for the cunt :(

How the fuck has it gone so fast ? Can't believe we got another world cup round the corner aswell .