seemed a bit agitated towards the end. The journo rightfully asked him why his players keep letting him down but Wenger went on about "we live in a world of criticism" or some bullshit like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
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seemed a bit agitated towards the end. The journo rightfully asked him why his players keep letting him down but Wenger went on about "we live in a world of criticism" or some bullshit like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
F*ck me that tapping on the keyboard is annoying!Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
He talks about their unquestionable commitment and spirit and says you have to give credit to the effort they put in, he seems to watch something different from everyone else, moreover when he's asked about being let down everytime by a squad that he believes in he deflects the question by saying we live in a world of criticism.
I just don't see any acceptance of the shortcomings anytime he speaks, why does he absolutely refuse to see we're just not up to it, especially after pretty much 9 years of the same thing, it's really puzzling.
It seems to me he feels his achievements in the last 9 years are success and that being genuine contenders until the end or actually winning something by beating the best means little.
Yep I agree with that. Admittedly his job role is a bit more varied than the Managers of our rivals, the bottom line is that I believe he gets cut a lot of slack and for reasons that are not to do with the team's "football performance". If Arsene was judged on a "results" only basis by the board, I do not believe they would cut him half as much slack.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
You just have to look at him to see the pressure he's under, even if it's just from himself.
He's not under the kind of pressure a Chelsea manager is but I wouldn't want him to be.
The word 'Waffling' comes to mind. Same old interview, he talks the talk but cant walk the walk. Excuses excuses!! The spirit and the performance was unquestionable?? Are you haveing a giraffe? Stop protecting the damn players, they have too much protection which is why always under perform and never turn up for the not only the big games but when it really matters, they let themselves and the club down with their sub standard perfomances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
And people wonder why he didn't bother with this after the Chelsea game :lol:
Whatever he says he'd get hammered, if he says nothing he still gets hammered.
I'm gonna get hammered
He doesn't do himself any favours though, nothing he says actually reflects what's happening or makes anyone think he isn't in denial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It’s the basics for one aspect of the game. I wouldn’t want to see such one dimensional play implemented in our youth system, not to mention non-existent defensive training.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
He's not prepared to criticise the players in public. It's really that simple. If he heaps the same criticism on them as the media and the pundits and the rest then he's only cutting his own throat. This is what he said, let everyone else criticise and he'll get on with his job. Surely nobody thinks he says the same things behind the scenes as he does in public? Do you think after the chav game he took them all to one side and told them they have great spirit and that was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
It's even worse when you consider this whole media business is nothing more than an exercise in queuing up the quotes and soundbites that can be used to flog temporary news and sensationalism. There's nothing constructive about any of it, just the hangers on gabbing whatever slice of the game they can while putting zero back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Sad end to the season and possible his tenure at Arsenal. He had the best opportunity by far win the championship this year and get all anti wenger fans behind him. However from being league leaders for 75% of the season we are now scrapping, actually scrapping is too strong; we are now scrambling around working out points and games in hand against Everton or even possiby the Spudz. We should have signed Higuain and Suarez in the summer and the treble was on, I mean League,Uefa CL and FA Cup. But oh no he went on the last 2 hours of the August transfer window and signs an attacking midfielder only becase Real Madrid wated to get rid of him to raise money for the Bale deal. He had all summer to set hi intent and should have made that substantial offer for both Suarez and Higuain. Instead we get offer the buy out clause plus a quid, OMG, then we are led to believe that Higuain is done and dusted only to find out he's in Naples signing for Beneitiz's Napoli? Then 2nd chance came in January and we were league leaders still and again this was his moment to cemnet our 1st place till end of season; Again he fucks around and then last minute decides to sigh an injured defensive midfielder to covr our crocked players?? I cant feel sorry for him or accept his same monotonous dross of sheer bullshit. I have heard it too many times and untl Wenger leaves our club will be happy with 4th place whilist Chelsea, City, Liverpool over take us for the next few seasons. If anyone is happy to go through with thi crap for the next 2 or 3 years please tell me why??
Considering we’ve just seen another flat performance, why is it impossible to assume he doesn’t say similar things to his players? We didn’t play any different to how we played against Chelsea, we just faced a weaker team. Fullbacks were still bombing forward, poor passing in the middle, a suicidal highline, no organisation. I’m beginning to think he told the players to wipe that Chelsea loss from memory without actually dealing with the problem. I think the players are under the illusion that if they stay patient, press the team high up the field, the opposition will tire an opportunity will come. That’s probably why he can’t fault them too much because it’s his philosophy and gameplan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Agree, esp the bit about starting the game exactly like we did the Chelsea game. We played Liverpool a week after our 5-1 thrashing and i remember we started the game exactly the way we did an Anfield and Sturridge missed two huge chances for them and we were lucky not to be behind. That game could have turned into another spanking. Liverpool also missed a hatful of chances and had a blatant pel denied. We dont start games strongly anymore (maybe Bayern being the exemption) and good teams will punish us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I find this odd, other managers do it when it called for, don't see a problem myself, it's not the even the fact he doesn't criticise them it's the fact he goes as far as praising them after such a dire performance, praising them with things that aren't really true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Hard to tell sometimes, our form has been poor recently and the drubbings have really led to a "reaction" from the players, they just let the same thing happen again, had a good win against Spurs but that was backs against the wall stuff against a very average Spurs side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It was the same approach. Highline, fullbacks bomb forward, Arteta and Flaimi push up as far as possible and contain Swansea in their own half, keep the ball moving. That’s Wengerball and what he preaches to the players so what else can he criticise besides individual errors which is something I don’t always agree with unless a player is really asking for it. We have a systematic problem and explains why he’s never out of his seat screaming or making substantial changes. He believes this style of play will eventually lead to goals and in some cases we’re just unlucky or experience the odd ‘accident’. I don’t think he’s ever going to change things.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
Wengerball :rose:
I really hope for his sake that we can win the FA Cup, manage 4th and he walks off. That'd be the best thing he can do for Arsenal Football Club.
Regardless if we win the FA Cup, Wenger should start planning his exit speech.
How does Wenger not find it highly embarrassing to keep on trotting out the same lame excuses. The game against Chelsea was an accident and the Swansea game was the result of a hangover. The game against Man City was also an accident, likewise Liverpool, the opening season loss against Villa was an accident. He blames everything on something else, but never himself. He insults us fans every frigging time he spouts this bullshite.
Why do our players get injured so often, and so severely and why does it take them so long to regain match fitness?
Wigan then Hull or Sheffield, there should be no debate about possibly winning. The cup should be a lock. If he cannot put a winning team out against these teams with the appropriate winning tactics then he has no place in our club.
Wenger out!
Walk away from 8m quid with journalists waiting to hear his wise words twice a week?. For a man obsessed with football and who craves attention. This will not be easy. At every other club he will be held accountable for each debacle. Not like here where, "its okay Arsene as long as we secure CL qualification" is the hardest remonstration he will ever hear. It wont be easy. He wouldnt last 6 months in any other top job. If he retires, the only question he will ever from journalists is "Arsene do you think your CV is complete without a CL trophy?". I doubt he will leave easily. He seems to easily shake these disasters off and move on. It will take a momentous effort from the fanbase or some even more abject tonkings from Mourinho to get him out of here.
Craves attention :lol:
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Originally Posted by Globalgunner
If 8-2, 6-3, 5-1, 6-0 hasnt changed the man, I fear what it'll take for him to realize that he is past it. 10-0 hammering possibly?
Yes, he is an exhibitionist voyeur as you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Pinky and Perky the two little bears right on cue. to save Wengers butt, as alwaysQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
:lol:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Gwg_CUzB4r...g%20myrtle.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
And it's about fucking time that Wenger realized that he is not bigger than the club, never will be.
When he is being picked over by maggots six feet under we will still be THE ARSENAL!
Gooners who go to games at the Emirates need to remind him of this.
His realisation he is not bigger than the club has been at the very heart of the work he has done to transform the club over the past decade. He would have been better off behaving like he was bigger than Arsenal by promptly leaving for Madrid. Then we could have got Owen Coyle in to propel us to the heights of football, or maybe even a couple of bean counters who love Microsoft Excel more than life itself.
Madrid..yeah right,,,,I can only guess how long that would have lastedQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The only option to Wenger is Owen Coyle...of course
Your trying hard but no one else but you and some jittery sods are still convinced that the way forward is Wenger
He'd have never left for Madrid, too much pressure and expectation, fans also expect star signings, plus his philosophy behind the "4th place" being a trophy just wouldn't wash. Madrid was never going to happen, he'd have to be a fool to go there knowing he wouldn't last more than a season.
What's better season after season not having to deliver trophies and earning a lot, or one season earning a bit more and then needing to find a new job?
Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The transformation took place during the first 9 years, for the last decade we have won nothing, that translates into a deteriorating transformation.
What!. Lord Weng, hes a master of the game a maestro of the bench, A Machiavelli of tactics. He rode into Highbury and saved us from seasons of near relegation. Took us to Europe where we've never been before. Rescued us from near bankruptcy and insignificance. Made us a titan of Europe and sadly failed to win both Europa and CL finals he got to.....but we all know they were both freak results and accidents. Clubs all over the world are scrambling for his services.....If only Arsenal would let him go....but no. Hes amassed too many 4th place trophies for them to ever contemplate it. Love Weng we do. Nobody else does it better...............Carly`s song was really about himQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
funny how madrid were interested in him in the early 2000's then, you know that time when he was winning doubles, undefeated league titles etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Just realised I know that Moh guy. Well, know of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sterling Archer
He's from Milton Keynes and his family used to run the local shop by my high school.
#pointlessfact
Let him finish his project, when the injured players come back next year :lol:
Funny how he didn't go? He's not a risk taker, going to Madrid would have been a big risk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
This guy needs to stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sterling Archer
Wenger's had loads of transfer windows that he's fucked up in when he's had the cash.
Nothing on the pitch shows me that Wenger is the right man for the job.
so was agreeing to keep Arsenal in the top four for five years so that the banks would loan us the money to build the emiratesQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I get tired of listening to this guy, he's always got some excuse and a when tomorrow comes speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies