Scored 15 goals from what I can see, seems a lot of money for a guy who's really only emerged this season, but who knows in the crazy world of football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
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Scored 15 goals from what I can see, seems a lot of money for a guy who's really only emerged this season, but who knows in the crazy world of football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
Hmm that's what I thought. I honestly don't know much about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Hardly record breaking stuff tbh, and in the French league. Giroud was top scorer there the season before we bought him......
Of course he's not. He's a kid that has shown potential, like many that went before him. Circumstances will dictate whether he comes good. The wrong decision now, like going to Madrid, and he's fucked. Rodriguez, the last great whizzkid wonderkid next Pele, is about to be offloaded after a modest shift at that level. They signed some other youngster too a while back, some Scandinavian kid, wasn't it, for a ridiculous amount. Can't recall hearing his name in an age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
Look at Martial, another next big thing. Exploded on the scene. Silly money and now Maureen wants to shift him on. So 87mill is a ludicrous amount, but that's what football is all about, lunacy. It has become one big factory for shifting huge amounts of money from huge amounts of people and into the pockets of mostly mediocre men who have found themselves in the right place at the right time.
If Mbappe does make it and becomes the next Henry it won't be because he's had one good season in France, it'll be because he grafts for the next 5 years under the tutelage of a manager who knows his stuff. And most importantly of all, he needs to get game time.
In gypoland he'll be up against Aguero and Jesus. In chavland he might land the starting spot if Costa fucks off. In Madrid he'd be on the bench half the time and in a poisonous ego-hell, with us he'd likely start, but I bet on the wing. I bet.
Conte, starting for the chavs, PL champs, CL footie, big wages - that would be his best option I think. It's roulette at Madrid. Depends ifthe kid is in this for football or if he has already been corrupted by his agent.
Wouldn't we be better spunking large amounts of money on experience and class though?
Oh, hang on, we've all been here before.
The Arsenal transfer carousel
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Arsene Wenger's side have long-standing interest in the France international but are now set to lose out.
Reports in France suggest the Gunners have made an £87million bid for Mbappe, but with Real Madrid circling and Arsenal unable to offer Champions League football it is unlikely they will get their man.
Wenger dithered for years, signed Sanogo instead.
Wenger fucked it by not even managing to retain his coveted 4th place trophy so he could con serious footballers into a contract.
Wenger hurts Arsenal every morning he walks through the door.
He looks the real deal to me. He scored a lot of goals in CL too against decent opposition like Citeh, Dortmund & Juve. Whoever gets him will have a future worldie on their hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
The fee is crazy I agree, but the market is nuts right now.
I reckon any bid like that from us would be riddled with clauses and structured over a long period.
He's not coming here anyway, way too much heat on him. He'll end up at Real IMO.
Vidal still pisses me off because it was such an obvious signing. But we still need a player like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
Draxler was another horrible miss.
Both players went cheap in this silly market, we didn't even compete because Wenger was there telling us the players we already had were good enough. What a fool.
It's really hard to identify a single significant target now we have started to drop down the league. Multiple opportunities stared Wenger in the face and he let them all pass.
Hard to know what we could offer to persuade a serious striker to come here. Would have to be Chinese level wages I guess. And we can't do that with Alexis and Ozil demanding huge wages too, not without selling them off. Wenger has created a right mess. He's turned us into a second tier club and we are starting to experience what it's like to be chasing that gap between the elite clubs and the rest. This could be a long period in the wilderness.
Yeah it's happened numerous times, top players reasonably priced and we've passed up the opportunity when we were crying out for players like that and let someone else get them for next to nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
To be honest you'd have to be a fool to come here now with the club as it is, there's no hope of picking up medals for the big prizes or even competing in them, few top class players to play alongside, tactics that are nonsense (as a striker you'll probably end up at full back) and money wise we're not going to compete with the big boys and if we did why would you choose a club on a downward spiral with a guy whose idea of successful management is a positive balance sheet, because realistically even if we were hypothetically going to offer higher wages, it would probably be £1 more.
A tin pot record breaking one though!:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
So Wenger has gone in big for a player he couldn't bring in for free last year for a fee he always said he'd give back to the giver if ever offered.....
Hmmm...you sure Mr Olley?
Nevertheless, Mbappe is the real deal...make no mistake. Considerably more talented than Aubameyang IMO.
He doesn't look too convinced by his own words. But I hope he's being truthful, this time. And I agree. These players are contracted so they need to play to the best of their abilities next season if that's what the club demands of them. After that, if Wenger has done his job properly and brought in credible reinforcements, and if we have mounted a serious challenge for the title and bagged a Euro trophy, well we'll see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Keeping Ozil and Alexis, even if it means losing them on a free next season, might be the only way out of this mess.
Yep, I couldn't give a flying fuck if we lose out financially by forcing them to stay another year so I'd love us to take hard line on this. However history suggests that we will let them go if they don't sign on, Wenger's words are totally hollow. Although I actually think Ozil will stay, he's just going to squeeze as for as much money as possible.
Apparently Wenger has confirmed interest in Mahrez.
World's 6th Most Valuable Club @ £1.7 Billion
World's 7th Richest Club On Revenue @ £350.4 Million
World's 7th Highest Wage Bill @ £234 Million
.....& World's Most Expensive Season Ticket
No League Title Or Challenge For 13 Years
Nowhere Near A European Title
Wenger said: "Have we made a bid for him? No. Not yet. No, we have not. When I say 'not yet' it means it could happen. It might not happen."Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
He's even confusing himself now! :lol:
Very poor trade if we lose Alexis and sign Mahrez. If some fans can't stand Ozil "going missing" then wait until they get a load of Mahrez in "action". He's not good enough for Arsenal, but he may be good enough for Wenger and the Wengerites.
Sooo over Mahrez.
I'd have him here because I think we lack players with a bit of trickery but I wouldn't say he's anywhere near being an essential signing.
I'll take Mahrez, but let's be honest his stock has fallen hugely (no wonder we're interested), could end up being a one season wonder. Wouldn't me my choice of a signing but I'll take it.
I'd take Mahrez but like MO said he's not an Essential signing. I'd also worry that we would misuse Mahrez and that he would stagnate further. He's a good player but blows hot and cold too much for my liking.
Beyond the CF...what's the priority?
A replacement for Santi Cazorla.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Being linked with Arda Turan, quality player but at 30 hardly one who's going to be around long.
Yeah he's a very good player but a short term solution. Could be a Santi replacement, he was playing at a high level for Atletico prior to his move to Barca.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Few sources claiming we will officially announce kolasinac soon. Gibbs rumoured to be off to Newcastle for 15mil.
Also Sanogo has confirmed he is leaving =( I was looking forward to seeing his immense talent in Sydney next month.
Comment from Sanogo made me laugh:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4573034/Arsenal-striker-Yaya-Sanogo-confirms-Gunners-exit.htmlQuote:
'The injuries stunted my progress, there were moments where I was good. I remember the summer of 2014 when, during the Emirates Cup, I scored a quadruple against Benfica.
Sorry pal but you were never any good, a few goals in a friendly match doesn't count for anything :lol:
Glad we finally got rid, took us 4 years though!
You'd have to be nuts to pay 15 million for Gibbs, firstly he can't defend and secondly he's almost always injured, nice to see we're making a nice tidy profit by picking up Kolasinac though (does anyone know anything about this guy?)!
So Liverpool bring in 2 quality players. City bring in 2 quality players and what is arsene doing? Bidding 95 mil for a player who doesn't want to join us
Your mumQuote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
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We're signing Tape Cassette say BEIN sports.
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Is that a genuine complaint?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
Sczeney is apparently signing for juventus after impressing at Roma.
He hasn't been any good since the 80s :sulk:Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Really is season ticket sales times isn't it, look at this nonsense apparently we've sanctioned a £120 million pound bid for Mbappe.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/06/arsena...bappe-6687895/
Sounds like the Arsenal hype machine is at it again, like it is every year at this time, isn't strange how every year around this time and in the summer we always get linked to pipe dream players and apparently make pipe dream bids for players, almost as if someone is trying to keep fans happy with rumours...
This would be the quickest and cheapest way to get the majority of fans back onside, if that's something that interests the board and the manager. Plus it will partially insulate against the backlash if Alexis leaves, especially if he goes to the gypos as is looking increasingly likely. This could also be one of the conditions of Wenger's new contract, that he has to start paying some attention to the football team.
Bellerin - ‘I do not know anything at the moment. I’m an Arsenal player, but we’ll see what happens.’
Sounds like he's contracted Barca DNA. Slap an 80mill price tag on him and move on. If the second biggest cheats in football want him then get them to pay through the nose.
If he goes they'll get him on the cheap like they did with Cesc, Barca DNA and the fact Wenger will feel sorry for him and want the best for him, also he had a poor season last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Could be, but more likely it's the usual rubbish we hear at this time of the season. Benzema anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...o-join-arsenal
That's one in the bag.
Cheap and cheerful.