Maybe we can bid £92m for him then withdraw the offer 5 minutes later once it's accepted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
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Maybe we can bid £92m for him then withdraw the offer 5 minutes later once it's accepted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
These new "targets" coincided with another piece that confirmed we've dropped the slow motion chase for Lemar because Barca have expressed a passing interest in the player.
As always:
IF no other club of note want the player;
IF we aren't being used by an agent to influence real negotiations elsewhere;
IF the player can be successfully lied to and convinced the club has an ounce of ambition;
IF the player falls for the fake promises of other talent being brought in;
IF the player meets Wenger's bizarre 1990's valuation criteria;
IF no other player in the squad will be put out by the potential new arrival;
IF we don't blow the whole deal by offering a pathetic bid and souring relations with the other club;
IF we don't drag the whole process out with nickel and dime increments to the bid;
IF we can get past the club suddenly claiming we have no money;
IF we can get the deal concluded before the last few seconds of the transfer window.
We still won't sign a decent player because Elneny can also play there as well you know. And Santi is coming back. And Jack is like a new signing.
What's really happening this January window and in the summer is our best players are walking away after another round of glorious fuck-ups by the fraud who claims to be a top, top, top, manager.
By now, after all this time, surely it is safe to assume the absolute worst outcome? The inevitable outcome. The same old outcome. We've been through the cycle twice in the last decade and only the stupidest, stupidest player will fall for round 3.
Wenger said he wouldn't damage the club. But he has. Badly. It will take a long time for Arsenal to regain credibility, mainly because it's going to take a long time for this bastard to leave. And nothing good can happen until he's gone.
Therefore, all these transfer stories are bullshit. It's either the media filling column inches or the club going through the usual motions.
Our transfer policy (if you can call it that) is a joke, it's embarrassing, it's pushing us out of contention long term and it won't be changing any time soon.
Good post. Notice how the likes of city and Chelsea are ruthless when buying players. There was one player city were linked with on a Monday and by Tuesday evening it had been wrapped up, can't remember who it was but that was incredible to see. Compare that to us.. we could have had Lemar at the beginning of the summer but we decided to wait and wait and dither, when the end of the window came Monaco decided they didn't want to sell because half their team had left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
As I've said before, it will be a very interesting summer if both ozil and Sanchez walk away. We'll see how we replace them. If we go out and spend adequately then we could turn back into a top 4 side. If we go cheap or promote youth we'll probably morph into a fully pledged top 6 side.
Transfer dealings (if you call them that) are a joke, there's no plan, no common sense, no urgency and no money (if you believe them). Some people still seem to go into transfer windows with hope, still dreaming of these pipedream signings and convincing themselves deals for top players are in the offing (like Mbappe last summer, what a joke that once, we had more chance of signing Jesus (the original one)).
So yes we can look forward to losing our best players, signing some guy noone ha ever heard of for some ridiculous money because he's super super quality, then dragging out BS deals all summer only for them to fail at the last moment after we've spent all summer doing nothing at all but sitting on our backsides, then at the last moment we'll panic guy some totally unsuitable players and start the season poorly yet again.
The life of an Arsenal fan is about as exciting as watching paint dry, it's actually worse because we have to listen to some utterly nonsensical rubbish coming out from the club as well.
Pound for pound probably the worst value club in the entire world, no money spent, no excitement, no entertainment, no unpredictability, no change, no hope, topped off by finger pointing and belittling.
I can't believe there as still people that can bare this and buy into this rubbish to be honest, to think that there's allegedly people willing to snap up spare tickets is shocking to me, somehow this club has managed to brain wash a load of people we still play good football and are entertainers.
I reckon we'd be good for people with insomnia, watching us might actually get them to sleep properly for the first time in years!
He won't come here, it's mind boggling if we are really chasing him when they don't want to sell him and I doubt he has any interest in coming here...oh wait a minute...this is Arsenal and this is how we try and do business :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Don't fret, we have Gilles Grimandi as one of our chief talent scouts. He's managed to miss securing any of this new golden generation breaking through in France despite being based there. I mean how is this even possible? :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yeah total nonsense, typical of our transfer business, we did the same with Baptista and Benzema, both players said they weren't interested but we carried on with our fruitless chase.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
We can't all be as intelligent as Wenger though!
:lol: I think these people get paid to sit around and do precious little, getting a job at Arsenal is great, pretty much free money, no questions asked, no targets and no repercussions for doing a terrible job.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
All Grimandi has to show for is Sanogo and that Jeff bloke. :haha:
Great work, high fives all round for Grimandi, Wenger and the rest of the technical staff. :rolleyes:
Zim:bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Post of the year tbh
Dw we have gazidis in charge of transfers now who wants less work by taking on more responsibility :haha:
Herbert:doh:
:lol: he spotted sanogo ahead of mbappe. Give him a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
It has been a slow year :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
You didn't answer my question yesterday Letters. When are you doing the honourable thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
:lol: Always bites.
That wasn't a bite and you know it :lol:
I'm just saying you're a moderator on a forum where you're disliked, maybe it's time to re-evaluate :shrug:
I’ve got thirty minutes left at work
I could response to a particularly angry email
I could.....:popcorn:
Shit, I should have done some work today.
I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Me :bow:
On the downside, I still have about a week's worth of the shit to go. Work is the stupidest and most inconvenient thing ever invented.
You should be like a certain former poster and just be a deadbeat freeloader your whole life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I've had a reasonably productive day but have less* days left this week than I really need to get done everything I need to get done
* - Just to make HCZ feel at home.
That doesn’t really narrow it downQuote:
Originally Posted by GP
Precisely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
https://i.imgflip.com/bxov3.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Don't have enough cash to be one of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Wilshere to Betis apparently :lol:
Safe to say that probably won't be happening.
Wilshere will be gone in the summer, no great loss but another player we'll need to find a replacement for. With no money coming in for the 3 players leaving, they'll have to find someone else to sell to make up the numbers.
I know Wenger is allegedly still there because of the profit he makes, but with us losing what is it about 75 million worth of players (players we paid a transfer for) next summer even his profit making won't be an excuse as we'll no doubt make a loss.
Interesting thing about our transfer policy is that ever summer we make a signing before the season ticket renewal deadline, then after the deadline activity is pretty much dead, it's almost as if we're just trying to get people to buy season tickets and dupe them into thinking we're going do a serious summers' business.
In the end last summer we sold a few players and made a profit, but even if we had signed Lemar (for the ridiculous amount of 92 million) we still made sure that Sanchez/Ox/Chesney/Gabriel/Gibbs covered most of the money spent (epsecially when you factor salarries off the wage bill).
I'm amazed match day goes don't feel utterly ripped off.
That's always been the pattern for a while now. We had the debate earlier this summer about having a 'good start' to our summer transfer activity but we always start early and then we're all waiting for deadline day news.
You know rumour mill will be on full blast this summer. In fact, maybe more than ever as big players are likely to leave and fan morale will be very low.
Wenger already has the answer. He spoke yesterday about the "sit down" at the end of the year and explained that's nothing of significance, it happens every year. Supposedly. So he'll be staying. Can't find the article now, but for anyone who does it's worth a read just to see how far Wenger is prepared to go to torture intent, context and language. This bunch have already told us we're over-performing in comparison to our rivals. Wenger has told us we're hot on the heels of the gypos in terms of expected goals. Players running down their contracts is ideal, if you recall. I'm sure they can find a new metric to explain how marvellous we've been in the transfer window. Thee people are exposed but they don't care and they don't need to care.
Expected goals :lol:
Fellaini is a free agent in the summer
:run:
We're in the top three clubs in the world at the 'expected transfers' stat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Barca want ozil in January apparently and think they can get him for less than £20m.
Makes sense tbh
Much cheaper than coutinho.
Suited to Spanish league.
Under a half decent manager would get back to good form.
Eligible for champions league.
The amount of assists he'd have in that team is ridiculous.
If they want to keep Ozil and Alexis, and eventually any player, somebody at this club needs to make a statement on what the plan is. If the plan is to continue building share value and bank reserves, which it's totally fair to assume, then say so and shut the club down. Otherwise, what's the plan? When will this club be challenging for titles again and what steps are being taken to put the challenge on place.
If such a plan exists, it appears to currently consist of:
1. Losing our best players.
2. Retaining a manager that hasn't challenged for a title in a decade.
Which is no plan at all, in fact it's the reverse of what's required.
Who will have the balls, in the last few weeks remaining, to put something on the table and then back it in the January transfer window?
Twice we've seen Ozil, Alexis and Lacazette start in a reasonable sane system and on both occasions we've performed well. If we're going forward with that then somebody better get a move on. If we aren't then somebody needs to find 200 million to repair the damage and get us back to square one.
I suppose we'll just drift on into January and nothing at all will be done.
Ozil and Sanchez are gone, if they wanted to stay they'd have signed by now we have to be realistic, there's nothing stopping them except for the fact they don't want to. There's nothing we can do now to change their minds, I personally think we'll have them till the summer as clubs would be mad to pay for them in Jan when they can have them for free 6 months later, they must be laughing at these mooted swap deals for contracted player with years left on their contracts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The club will try and flaunt them around to grab so cash from somewhere, other clubs will probably laugh in their face and then pick them up for nothing in the summer with a simple thank you very much you bunch of losers.
Silly Bollocks is going back to Schalke for Leon Goretzka. 22. Attacking midfielder. Price is smack in the sweet spot - free. Our perfect replacement for Ozil. No transfer fee, half the wages or less. The gypos and Juve are also interested, so if they don't snap him up we could be in with a shout.
Sleep is evidently not your friendQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Just checked his stats
This season got 4 goals 0 assists so far.
Last season got 8 goals 4 assists.
Ozil last season got 12 goals 12 assists.
But this guy is younger and hasn't hit his peak yet. Would prefer to replace ozil with someone more proven but never seen him play so don't know what he's like tbh.
I like the fact he's 6 ft 2, which along with recent signings like xhaka, elneny and Kolasinac adds some presence to the team.
I do most of my best work at night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Does walking around bollock naked swigging from a bottle of Glenfidich and singing along to brothers in arms by Dire Straits really count as work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn