Wenget has confirmed Diaby is out for 3 weeks.
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Wenget has confirmed Diaby is out for 3 weeks.
Dear lord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I'm less concerned by that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
If this team allows itself to be bullied, then no single 'enforcer' can alter that. Nor would 1 player significantly alter opposition tactics if those tactics have proven to work. Combatting physical tactics requires the whole team to compete, a more physical player helps in that regard, but isn't in himself a fix.
Neither Sahin or Cabaye are what I would call enforcers, but would have added depth. The 3 midfielder formation we use seems to contain increasingly specialised roles, and it requires either a large pool of midfielders or a few super quality versatile ones. Arteta is pivotal in the pivote, Cazorla critical in the CAM.
Our inability to compensate for Arteta's occasional absence last season, or Fabregas permanent one suggests to me that just because a player can play in a position, doesn't mean they'll be adequate there.
Incompetence of the highest order. This team has Diaby, Rosicky on its roster, players who cant play a month of football w.o requiring 3 months off it. Yet he keeps making them part of his core plans. Wenger man will win nothing in the time left on his current deal. If this man is given a new contract, I swear I will do harm to someone. Ach.LDG..u have been warned.
I don't disagree with anything you just said IBK (except for the Arshavin bit - Cazorla's workrate and his care with the ball is light years ahead of the Russian).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
The issue of keeping top players on the bench is a problem, but at least having top players in reserve allows you to rotate without losing too much quality, nor should they require much game time to get up to speed.
What we have now is a situation where if Arteta and Cazorla are fit then they play, COC and dead Euro rubbers excepted, because our backups are a significant drop in class. We played Wilshire to death because his backup was Denilson.
Players in general aren't happy if they don't play, even guys like Coq who was making noises during the InterBreak, so I don't have a solution.
I agree with Wenger to the extent that, no you can't buy just to cover an injury. But when you think about it, Wilshere and Frimpong are coming off lengthy injuries, Rosicky and Diaby have long and storied injury histories. Which is why a loan was considered I think.
Cabaye is a player I like, and there was talk of being back in for him in Jan, however the real stretch period was the first 3 months of the season. If Jack comes back fit, I think Wenget will be tempted to leave it.
Wenger said in an interview yesterday that he decided to take a gamble on diaby's fitness by not replacing Song.
That is just down right incompetence. I wouldnt expect any top flight manager to take such a risk if they had the finances and opportunity to buy a replacement - which we had.
This season isnt the time for more patience, it is the time for action.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19802166
I think its more to do with Diaby being a bit shit physically and being injury prone than him playing for France
Wenger will blame anyone and everyone for his incompetence- Les Blues, Chelsea, Man City, 2%, neighbors dog etc. Bottom line is that he took a gamble on a player to carry us the entire season when he could barely put together a total of 90 mins last season. Sometimes I wonder how the cow got his MBA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Yeah, Wenget can fuck off on that one. How come Alex Ferguson never gets into this situation? He tell his players to play dead during the International break and there's nothing anyone can do. If Wenger tells Diaby "Turn down the call-up, say you're little bit knock on right ankle swollen up globally, or else I'll freeze you out worse than Theodore" then Diaby won't go anywhere. I have it on good authority the conversation actually went:
Wenget: Turn down the call-up?
Diaby: Nah....
Wenget: Go on, please...?
Diaby: Nah....
Wenget: Ok. Want a new contract?
Diaby: Go on then.
Wenget: Now turn down the call-up?
Diaby: Nah...
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
Wenget :rose:
one french journalist matt spiro said this morning that there was a suspcion in the press conference and in france that wenger said three weeks becuase it meant he missed the next international break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
who knows though, but i hope diaby is back soon
No actually, France can fuck off on this one.
Deschamps is spot onQuote:
France manager Didier Deschamps has criticised Arsene Wenger after the Arsenal manager sparked a club v country row over Abou Diaby's recent selection for the national side.
Full story: Daily Telegraph
about being the man to pick the team.
but his timing was a fuck up. for us and their national team.
If you want international quality players you have to be prepared to let them play for their national teams. That's why we have a squad, we should have the players to fill in if someone gets injured.
No use complaining about it when someone goes and picks up a knock every year.
No, you have to look at the player in question and his fitness record.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Is it me or ever since Diaby got injured we have been playing absolutely shit. Is he the player that makes it all come together?
It seems to me we're missing his height and physical presence in the middle. He's also the only player capable of making driving runs forward. Too often we try and pass our way into attacking positions, however if a team just sits back and defends and plays on the break against us we can't create anything because everyone is marked. We miss Diaby driving past people and pulling players out of position with his runs, which then frees up other players. If we can't rely on Diaby to be fit we need to find someone who can do what he does.
With Wilshere, Arteta and Cazorla its so easy to play against, sit deep and hold your position. Every team has found this out and we're getting stiffled against even the shittest of teams.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by server too busy!
It was a great decision to rely on Diaby. I mean, nobody could have forseen him getting injured.
He is a fantastic player, but I just don't see the logic in hoping he would stay injury free.
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Hope I get one for xmas
Completely forgot about this dude. When did he get injured again? Was it when he kicked the ball and injured himself? Is it still that injury?
He's the magical 2-3 weeks away. Every week.
The weird thing is, it doesn't seem to be working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
it would seem like that as it's a picture.
Don't worry its only 2-3 weeks away from working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
what hapened to suddenly cure rvc of his injuries? it was a gamble last year to rely on him given his record, yet he never missed a game through injury and i dont think he has for united either so what happened to him for it to work and could it work on diaby? both have muscle problems that cause injuries.
RvP told our staff to fuck off and went to his own specialist afaikQuote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Shame, see you in 9 months Abou
He should just retire, poor bloke.
he needs putting down tbh
He's not poor. He's on 80K a week isn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
I blame that Sunderland ****
:Ollie:
Yeah I blame Ollie too.
8-9 months?
Fucking hell.
How long is left on his contract? He needs to be moved on.
Corrected your typo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
ACL? 8-9 months? shoot him now.
In all seriousness, this is absurd. The faith shown in this guy has been incredible but he's never, ever been able to prove his fitness. Wenget just needs to let go now, I'm pretty sure he sees Diaby as one of the first names on the team sheet when fit, maybe the reason he hasn't significantly invested in the centre of midfield for years.
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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
End of next season I believe. Knowing us though, he'll return in December, have a couple of world class games and we offer him a new contract worth 100 K. He then gets another year long injury after he signs.
Nearly all true apart from the world class games bitQuote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico