What now for Walcott?

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25-09-2012, 01:02 PM
McNamara That Ghost...

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Originally Posted by Ach

National managers play players for the most part where they are played for their club.

If Theo played upfront for us then he'd play upfront for England.

Do not forget, Rooney is undroppable regardless of how shits hes been for England and they only play one upfront and its bound to be him

I don't think that's true really. For instance I don't believe Capello is that much of a patsy he would blindly follow what Wenger had been doing. I'd say Rooney's game for England is still to drop deep a lot of the time whereas for Man Utd he has essentially morphed in to a predator in the box.
25-09-2012, 01:03 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Ach

I dont see an attitude. I see a young man standing up for himself to get what he wants. Hes not asking for a move away or for more money. Hes asking for Wenger to keep his word. Especially when you consider the crap we have played upfront this season already and in years gone by

Can Wenger keep it? We shall see

His body langauge on the pitch says diffrent. This is not the Theo who had that good game vs Barca, eho was alll happy, you can see the lad is not really happy and is considering things.

Do you think 100% he is not thinking about leaving?
25-09-2012, 01:05 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Ach

I dont see an attitude. I see a young man standing up for himself to get what he wants. Hes not asking for a move away or for more money. Hes asking for Wenger to keep his word. Especially when you consider the crap we have played upfront this season already and in years gone by

Can Wenger keep it? We shall see

I don't think Walcott is being massively unreasonable saying that he wants to play up front.
I don't think Wenger's being massively unreasonable if he thinks Walcott isn't right for that role.
If that means he leaves the club due to 'artistic differences' then so be it.
25-09-2012, 01:06 PM
Bergkampwonderland10

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

What do you think he's been doing since signing? He's been playing out of position for the boss for years and it hasn't helped his reputation at all. Sweeping statements about his ability are all too common these days. It's as if his first goal for Arsenal has been wiped from history with the stuff he's done recently. He's had games where he's torn through Liverpool's defence, shell shocked Barca, got one over Ashely Cole and caused problems for Chelsea, problems against City and turned the spurs game on it's head last season. He's still a work in progress but he's had too many games where he's shown class to write him off in such a way.

The Owen comparison is funny because he had that Liverpool assist where he ran through there defence to assist Ade and that was compared to Owen's World cup 98 goal. What would be the story if Owen was played out on the wing just because of that run and his pace?

Funny he was never played as a striker at southampton either. He scored his goals cutting in from the wings. Players at 17 don't always have a position. And how has he been playing out of a position for years!!! Ridiculous...he should be proud to wear the shirt wherever he is on the pitch. Van Persie wasn't played as a central striker til last season.
I didn't write him off, merely labelled his weaknesses that he has shown i.e.. holding up the ball to bring others into the attack, beating his man CONSISTENTLY! and that my friend is the key. Owen could always beat his man, make himself a yard and scoop that ball in the net. Even Walcott himself said - he wasn't 'bothered' about scoring goals. Seriously, the kid needs the help and support of a manager like Wenger...but his impatience will just turn him into the next Bentley...lost in limbo, a squad player and I don;t even know who he plays for now...somewhere in Israel.
25-09-2012, 01:07 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

His body langauge on the pitch says diffrent. This is not the Theo who had that good game vs Barca, eho was alll happy, you can see the lad is not really happy and is considering things.

Do you think 100% he is not thinking about leaving?

Body language seemed fine to me when Kos scored v City. He was as happy as anyone else.

I dont know what hes thinking. I dont know the dude but i would be surprised if he isnt thinking of it. His contract is ending next summer and he needs to do what he thinks is best for his career. Atm as he says, he thinks its staying at Arsenal and becoming a legend as we all hope he will become but does Wenger?

The ball is in Wengers court
25-09-2012, 01:07 PM
Master Splinter

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Originally Posted by Letters

Making up a conversation which never happened doesn't really add anything to this discussion.

Disgusting how Clint is treated around here.
25-09-2012, 01:10 PM
Cripps_orig

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Originally Posted by Letters

I don't think Walcott is being massively unreasonable saying that he wants to play up front.
I don't think Wenger's being massively unreasonable if he thinks Walcott isn't right for that role.
If that means he leaves the club due to 'artistic differences' then so be it.

That would be fair enough if Wenger hadnt played Gervinho upfront and Theo is better than him so why play Gerv and not Theo?

Giroud has flopped as well so not someone we can rely on

We dpnt have many options. Id rather keep Podolski on the left. Theo might be our last hope. Unless we want to bring in Chamakh?? Or how about we try Arshavin upfront again as we did couple of seasons back?

All these players got their turn upfront, Theo hasnt and he'd arguably be better than them all
25-09-2012, 01:10 PM
Özim

He's got a year left, if moves on then good luck to him, he'll be out of contract and fully entitled to.

I just don't think he's got much of a future with us, he's been with us since 2006 and really hasn't been played as striker much by Wenger...that's 6 years, that in itself must tell you everything you need to, he doesn't want to play Walcott up front.

He hasn't in his 6 years with us ever put together and string of performances that made you think he's finally arrived, likewise for England most of the time he's failed to perform, I don't know many players who get as long as he has had and still have been unable to convince people they're the real deal.

If he moves to a smaller club where he gets more games then he might carve out a decent career as a good player scoring a few goals in the process, if he moves ot a top club don't think he'll do anything, he won't get the game time because he's just not playing at a high enough or consistent enough level.
25-09-2012, 01:12 PM
Bergkampwonderland10

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Originally Posted by Ach

That would be fair enough if Wenger hadnt played Gervinho upfront and Theo is better than him so why play Gerv and not Theo?

Giroud has flopped as well so not someone we can rely on

We dpnt have many options. Id rather keep Podolski on the left. Theo might be our last hope. Unless we want to bring in Chamakh?? Or how about we try Arshavin upfront again as we did couple of seasons back?

All these players got their turn upfront, Theo hasnt and he'd arguably be better than them all

Well he needs to sign a contract extension for a couple of seasons and insert a little clause in there which says...I will only play for you if I play upfront though ;)
25-09-2012, 01:13 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Ach

That would be fair enough if Wenger hadnt played Gervinho upfront and Theo is better than him so why play Gerv and not Theo?

Giroud has flopped as well so not someone we can rely on

Theo isn't better than Gervinho IMO.
You're being a WUM about Giroud. We're 4 games in. :rolleyes:

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