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Come on, using stooges is the done thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Hope he uses that in the next game, we could do with mobility up top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
http://www.thesportbible.com/article...ot-sign-anyone
I like the "Do stuff" pic :lol:
The failure to sign a quality striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
The risk we're taking on Coquelin.
Playing players out of position.
Running his favourite players into the ground.
Failing to respect the opposition.
Buying shite like Sanogo.
Playing shitty, tippy tappy football against defensive bricks walls.
Failing to even compete for the title.
Failing to do anything significant in the CL.
Making lunatic substitutions.
Which of those are wind-ups, or is it the whole list?
Or did you mean to say WUMgersweb?
Surely W h i n g e rsweb would be more appropriate. If we were allowed to say it that is.
I can see it now: "I was available 24 hours a day to make signings, but no clubs came to offer me their playa"
Letters is doing nothing to throw off his Wenger apologist perceptionQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Irrespective of how crap United, Chelsea and Liverpool have done, we are five points off the pace four games in.
We won all these fixtures last season, and the important takeaway from these games is a need for a better striker.
The idea that somehow our reaction is unreasonable is ridiculous....and it can only be countered by "oh well United haven't improved, Chelsea have been crap etc" who cares if we aren't taking advantage of their foul ups.
There's no excuses if we fail to sign anyone decent now, it's incompetence of the highest order if that's the case, yes some people will try and sugar coat it with some BS but the facts are there in black and white, everyone else has strengthened (all of our rivals) and as we know in football you should never stand still, especially when you're behind, we've done it in the past with far far better teams and paid the price.
We've had all summer to find players, if you can't find anyone in that time then frankly you shouldn't be a manager because there's no hope for you.
Apparently we've been working night and day, not sure doing what because it clearly wasn't transfers.
Sky are using FIFA 2015 style rankings for players. Just ranked Martial against Hernandez and decided the former has more technique, but 1 point.
This is science people.
This is true because it's on Twatter
In Europe's top 5 leagues, only one club haven't signed an outfield player this summer.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN0UkYuWcAApa90.jpg
Just over 4 hours left for Wenger to scrape shit out of the deepest barrel.
There's certainly an element of deadline day, where's our playa? It's all a bit silly.
But we have needed a top quality striker for years now. Still no joy. Can't be done. It's impossible.
Unfortunately people on here are unable to see any shades of grey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I don't think Wenger's a bumbling incompetent ™ ergo I think he's a genius who can do no wrong, apparently. Meh.
Which doesn't really matter, what matters is where we are 38 games in. Anyone who has ever seen a season of football before, let alone as many as most of us have, know that seasons ebb and flow - teams go through good runs and poor ones, a team can be 5 points clear after 4 games and have slipped down after 10.Quote:
Irrespective of how crap United, Chelsea and Liverpool have done, we are five points off the pace four games in.
Wenger lives and dies on results. They've not been great so far but they've not been a disaster either. If we don't sign a striker and the consequence of that is we fail to challenge then yes, he should be sacked.
"Wenger lives & dies on results" - does he?. For the past 10 years of failed results ( competing for major honours as per the promises made ) he only seems to have continued to live in my book. Quite a nice living as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
He didn't sign the striker we needed last season, and we didn't compete. So why have we waited until this season to sack him? Or is the idea that we can do the loop all over again next year? And the next?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Southampton sign Van Dijk - they've done the impossible, credit to them. Wanyama staying put. Ungettable tbf. Would have been impossible.
We all know Wenger won't lose his job whether we challenge or not, 4th place is what's required and even if he missed out his job would still be safe.
We're use to this complacency with him though, time and time again he fails in the transfer market and never learns a thing, there's literally no hoppe for him, he can't and won't learn and prefers to keep the money in the bank where he can. The lines he regurgitates about top top quality and not finding better players than we have is absolute nonsense, there's plenty of better players if we looked around and better still actually made offers for them.
Yes. Although the board's definition of what is acceptable may differ from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
What's your definition of acceptable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
So Letters, if we fail to sign what we need in the next 3.5 hours, and Wenger isn't a bumbling, incompetent old dog, would you then be willing to concede that he is just a c***?
When has he ever died?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Because we've retained the FA Cup which IMO buys him a bit more time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We have the resources to compete for the biggest prizes now, we all know we needed a top striker, if we don't compete (not necessarily win, but we need to be there or thereabouts come May) this season because of his failure to do so then yeah, #WengerOut.
I'll concede he's French. That's my limit :sulk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
So if we win the cup again that buys even more time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
To be absolutely honest, Wenger has no place managing a big club these days, his ways are fine for a small club with limited funds trying to make the most of what little they have, but for a club of our size with our resources his methods are totally outdated.
All he seems interestd in is the youth policy and spending as little as possible whilst gaining the best possible position, winning trophies doesn't seem to play a big part for him and that's not a big club mentality.
Not sure. Winning it 3 years in a row would be pretty impressive. Has anyone ever done that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I think it would depend on how we do in the other competitions. Another last 16 CL exit and limping into the top 4 and probably not though.
Why is the boards definition different to mine. Do they not continue with the stance at every AGM that the intention is for the club to compete in the winning of the P.L. & C.L. - If not, they really should tell us so that those not wanting to pay the highest season ticket prices in Europe can hand their tickets in to sell to those amongst us content with 4th place. If we really are simply a 3rd/4th place team now, think it only fair the season tickets are 3rd/4th priced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
If they do agree that we moved to the Emirates to be a dominant European team then they really do need to ask their French Lovechild what the f--k he is doing. THE ONLY TEAM IN TOP 5 EUROPEAN LEAGUES NOT TO HAVE SIGNED AN OUTFIELD PLAYER - that with glaring weaknesses in the team. Gross negligence from any boss, no excuses.
Letters you know as well as I do that calling Wenger a bumbling incompetent is hyperbole borne out of frustration from him failing to do what's necessary season in season out. I think the anger and incredulity comes from the fact that he isn't stupid but is so stubborn as to believe what worked between 1998 and 2004 will work now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
If the consensus is that a player like Arteta isn't good enough, Wenger will be the one who disagrees with that
If everyone believes we need to sign a holding midfielder and a striker, Wenger will be the dissenting opinion.
Just look at the excuses he throws out left, right and centre now that the board have confirmed what we already know to be true.....money is no longer an issue.
If he doesn't have the confidence in his own ability to improve meaningfully in all areas and make a sustained title challenge he should step down.
Chelsea and Uniteds results have clouded the issue that again we have failed to deal with the pressure of expectation.
How much time does he need to address our obvious deficiencies, surely actually making an effort to do so would help
You're describing pretty much the best case scenario with Wenger as has been shown in the last 10 years, but I bet come the end of the season if he achieves that and we have another one of the short unbeaten runs he'll be forgiven and given another chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Does he seem interested in our youth set up, our academy is chaotically run and produces no one and most of our youth players end up being journeymen with lower league clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
He has for years, I'm not saying it's successful, just that he puts a lot of emphasis on it with the amount of young players he signs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I think the "anger & incredulity" comes when answering Letter's posts. Its good though - its like having Arsene himself on GW, reading Letter's posts give you an insight into the Wenger's World & how he may view things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
So if we could establish ourselves as a cup club then that might just be good enough for a club of this stature? Impressive even?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
And judging on how we have done over the past 10 years, how do you think we'll do this season given we'll be using the same squad and by the look of it the same tactics? On the balance of probability?
All in all, would you say the justification for retaining Wenger is wafer thin, if it exists at all? Or would you say he makes a good case for himself, looking back at the record and his current preparation for this season?
I think Letters is the white Ty
Letters sometimes there is no shades of grey, I was prepared to accept Wenger not signing players on the basis of pre season but the four league games show we are chronically lacking in the two areas we have wanted him to strengthen. Wenger is obsessed with getting a bargain and its part of his rationale to leaving it to deadline day but that argument only holds if the selling club needs the money more than the player.
Are Walcott or Giroud going to suddenly become more clinical in front of goal, is Coquelin going to last the season without injury and suspension.....because if Wenger thinks these are lesser risks than spending money on strengthening than this suggests only that he fears not being able to have a ready excuse if he fails to capture big silverware.
Lack of ruthlessness and ambition, and a stubborn determination that yesterday's successes can be emulated without adhering to today's rules.
Shame no super quality like Park Chu Young is available.
Is he definitely not available? Have we even checked?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Ty is the black LettersQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
When I first saw this I thought it was another NQesque attempt at poetry...but then I realised no of it rhymes??Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Said ages ago that you can't do a job better when you're a pensioner as opposed to when you were in your 40's. There's no shame in it, you simply begin to lose it ( isn't that right Herbie!) - just hope he doesn't wander round Colney tomorrow scratching his head thinking - What was I supposed to do this week - oh yes, buy a striker.