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And yet you 'thoroughly enjoyed' the glorious 92/93 season when we won 15 league games (we've already won 14 so far...) out of 42 scoring a whopping 40 goals (we've already scored 39) and were known throughout the land as "Boring Boring Arsenal".Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
You do talk a lot of crap and endlessly shift goalposts to suit your agenda.
Italian fans are football mad on the whole, there's obviously plenty of reason they stay away however if it's that tribal why don't they choose to go anyway, it's clearly not a logical decision according to what you're saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
As for Wimbledon, they had largely empty stadiums for years when they were in the PL, I can remember them playing at Selhurst Park with barely anyone there, people didn't like their route 1 football and thus they didn't have the same level of fans in the PL. As for Chelsea, I was simply picking up on a comment someone else made on here, it wasn't from me.
The CC is less popular, but if a fan has doesn't make a logical decision then it would be odd they would neglect the opportunity to watch their team in this as well.
I largely agree with the rest of your post, I just feel a lot of the fans now are not the hardcore group you talk about, which is why I don't really understand the waiting list for a club who don't spend on new players, don't win a lot and never change and don't really entertain anymore, perception has gone a long long way for us there's no doubt about it.
Different times, there was none of this marketing spin or BS around, prices weren't astronomical and players actually gave a sh*t on the pitch and earnt their stripes, it was also unpredictable in those days, which it really isn't with us now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It's no shifting goalposts it's called being bored of the same old sh*t with Wenger in charge, he takes all the enjoyment out of watching Arsenal with his stale methods, refusal to spend, constant nonsense and refusal to change a failed formula.
I know you don't like to hear it because to you Wenger is like a saviour and you can't imagine life without him, but it doesn't mean it's not true.
He's making it increasingly obvious where his allegiances lie. He really is a bullshitter these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Pretty much, he's not the good guy he likes to portray himself as, he chooses to support something rather than saying he has nothing to say as he doesn't set the prices, it's one big boys club where the all support each other and really don't care what anyone else thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
People will always say what is he suppose to say to questions like this, there's a simple answer to this and yet he pretty much everytime prefers to stick the oar in.
Yes, I can see how hard they were trying by winning 15 games out of 42.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
If you're bored of it then stop watching. LOL at the irony of you accusing someone else of "constant nonsense" though.
Just because we didn't win it doesn't mean we didn't try hard, we had far less resources and far less talent in those days and yet we still upset the odds and won cups and leagues. You associate what we have now, which are scrappy wins with effort, there's no effort in winning games you should be winning narrowly especially when you have far more resources than the club you're playing, effort is giving your all in a match, not scoring a couple and then congratulating yourself and then limping over the line when the opposition run you close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It's not ironic at all, I don't talk nonsense it's my opinion whereas it's kinda obvious he does, hence the reason make jokes about his interviews.
Two seasons previously we'd been champions, we weren't plucky minnows upsetting the odds, we were always a big club.
I had a season ticket back then. We were bloody awful, they only bothered during the cups.
Wenger does spout a load of balls, I'll give you that. But he's not the only one...
We did upset the odds when we won the league, Liverpool were the major force back then and anyone that overcame them did it as the underdog, not saying we weren't a big club but we certainly weren't the favourites and didn't have the same resources.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
We're bloody awful now to be fair so not much has changed other than the prices and nonsense after the match which we never had to put up with before.
Exactly. It's blatant. We need to put to bed this idea that his hands are being tied by the Board. He's in bed with them from the sound of it and really taking the piss with fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
He can't be serious.Quote:
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