Wenger Slaughterhouse

Saying 4th place is a trophy and more important than actual trophies is pathetic

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Originally Posted by Ach

Saying 4th place is a trophy and more important than actual trophies is pathetic

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Well that was not his speech.

Never said it was

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Originally Posted by Ach

Saying 4th place is a trophy and more important than actual trophies is pathetic

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Of course it is. But these people are completely out of touch with the fans. Not because thety have made a mistake, but because they don't want to be in touch with the fans. Just their wallets.

These people?

It was Wenger who said it....

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Originally Posted by Ach

These people?

It was Wenger who said it....

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He never said it was not.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I need to keep saying this I suppose. He's an employee. Do you think Ramsey should retire because he is shit? Do you think he should refuse to play if picked? He's fucking us over too isn't he? He's taking the money. But why wouldn't he and it's ludicrous to suggest he should step aside if picked. Same with Wenger. If the board keeps picking him to play then why should he not play? This has nothing to do with buying into anything, there not even trying to sell us anything. They don't have enough regard for us to allow such things to cross their minds.

You talk about "true" managers but they are mostly in and out of clubs like whores on a schedule. You can't single Wenger out for his behaviour when that's how the whole game is these days. In fact he's probably the least compromised when you consider outright crooks like Ferguson and Redknapp. Football has got much, much bigger problems than Arsene Wenger and so has Arsenal Football Club, or what's left of it.

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No he's not "just an employee" at all, he's been at the club for many years and just like a top player doesn't moves on to achieve success if it's not possible at one club I expect a manager to strive for success and not give up in favour of hard cash (as Wenger has). Ramsey given the chance would move on if he were top class and other clubs came in for him and why wouldn't he, staying at a losers club isn't the way the top players want to spend their days and fair play to them..

He accepts this after all, he does what he wants no questions asked gets 7 million for his trouble....not so bad really. You blame players for shipping out for money and yet that doesn't apply to Wenger who has clearly sold out for money.

I can single out Wenger because they guy doesn't really care about success, we know the board don't either of course but they're businessmen and that's what businessmen are interested in....money....managers usually love football and get their pleasure from success rather than money.

You can't even compare Wenger to Ferguson because he's a joke of a manager in comparison....can't motivate, tactically naive, unable to adapt, unable to see what right in front of his eyes and the list goes on.....he's more of a glorified scout these days and not even a particularly great one. You pointed out some of the simplest errors he makes in another thread and you were spot on....it's not good management it's amateurish and embarrassing......I'd be ashamed to do what he does if I was a top manager....noone takes him seriously anymore and it's not hard to see why.

So yes he's sold out, football is now a distant second behind economics and his 7 million a year salary.....

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Originally Posted by Ach

These people?

It was Wenger who said it....

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Yep, once again, Wenger is an employee. He believes he's working miracles grabbing 4th spot and for him that probably is his trophy. His brief, after all, it to make a profit in the transfer window AND produce a team that brings in CL revenue each year. If his brief was to win the title or actually win the CL then obviously he wouldn't consider 4th spot to be a trophy because it wouldn't be acceptable to his bosses on a prolonged basis. Do I think he avoids contradicting his bosses in public? Yes, why not? Every employee does that, apart from the ones who want to be sacked.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

He never said it was not.

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"These people" suggest it was more than just Wenger

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

:doh:

it was anything but.

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It was totally pathetic...but some people feel sorry for the bloke :lol: