Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

That's right, there are two relationships. With the club and with the fans. Club vs player is business. On the other hand fans vs player is... business. It should have some sort of consideration for the fans but it doesn't. Football isn't like that any more. Which is a very bad thing. Only a few clubs can realistically challenge for the the title, only a few can win the CL. These clubs are buying up all the talent. Of course they are, it makes sense for them. But don't expect any serious competition in the league if this is accepted without complaint. The current arrangement is great for the player, great for the agent, usually okay for the club as they tend to win either way unless they fuck things up. Terrible for the fans, devoid of any sort of payback for their loyalty and personal investment. Players are signing deals with no intention of staying, or letting deals run down so they get maximum financial benefit from a freebie move - we're talking one wheelbarrow of cash in comparison to a larger wheelbarrow of cash, pure greed. And it's the norm. The reality of it can be understood, but there's no point asking fans to accept it without complaint. The reaction of the fans is probably the last barrier between players setting up their own fucking auctions in public. I think it's healthy for the game when the fans give the players a seriously hard time. It preserves that 1% of the old game we are still clinging to. No harm in that.

Basically, speaking as a fan Sterling is a huge cunt as far as I'm concerned.

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Has he signed a lifelong contract with Liverpool? When you come to the end of the agreement you’re free to move on. He might not like living in Liverpool, whatever the reason, he’s free to move on.

We’ve just heard what Sanchez has had to say about our season. He thinks we’ve underachieved this season. Say he feels that way throughout his contract with us and we’ve done little to address our flaws that keep us from achieving more? Does he sign a new contract or choose to move on? He chooses to move on to a Bayern, Real Madrid or another club that can win the league and CL, does that negate his recent comments and we then just resort back to the ‘greedy player’ rhetoric?

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Has he signed a lifelong contract with Liverpool? When you come to the end of the agreement you’re free to move on. He might not like living in Liverpool, whatever the reason, he’s free to move on.

We’ve just heard what Sanchez has had to say about our season. He thinks we’ve underachieved this season. Say he feels that way throughout his contract with us and we’ve done little to address our flaws that keep us from achieving more? Does he sign a new contract or choose to move on? He chooses to move on to a Bayern, Real Madrid or another club that can win the league and CL, does that negate his recent comments and we then just resort back to the ‘greedy player’ rhetoric?

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Sterling is 20, isn't nearly as good as the hype merchants are making out, played shit all season but is still a key player for a club that gave him his big break. As an individual he stinks. You don't hear him talking about Liverpool and pushing on to achieve something with them, which is what Alexis is saying in relation to Arsenal. These two players are poles apart and there's zero comparison to be made.

City have released Micah Richards

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Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm

City have released Micah Richards

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They have Sagna who can fill his role as obscure has-been.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

They have Sagna who can fill his role as obscure has-been.

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Why, were you unavailable?

#SickBurn

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Sterling is 20, isn't nearly as good as the hype merchants are making out, played shit all season but is still a key player for a club that gave him his big break. As an individual he stinks. You don't hear him talking about Liverpool and pushing on to achieve something with them, which is what Alexis is saying in relation to Arsenal. These two players are poles apart and there's zero comparison to be made.

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Yeah, he's 20! Of course he's not as good as what the hype machines pumping out. You know how the media works but I'm surprised by the way people get swept away by the negative press stories sometimes.

Liverpool have just sold their best player, blown the money on poor players, gone all cheap and made more poor decisions like £150k on Milner, no idea what they're paying Ings, but these players won't get them into the CL yet alone win the League. After seeing Gerrard go his whole career without winning the league, why wouldn't a player consider his options when on board the Titanic?

I don't know why you're comparing Sanchez and Sterling's ability. It's not about that. The common factor is that if a player wants to leave when his contract is over, a club shouldn't be able to stop him. It's a contract. The players held up his side of the agreement and so has the club. If new terms can't be agreed then you move on.

I'm not comparing Alexis and Sterling at all, you are. There's no comparison to be made on any level, as footballers or men. Alexis is a winner on every level and does his talking on the pitch. Sterling is becoming one of the biggest losers in the game and in record time, and he's gone missing on the pitch and now does his talking through that sick bastard he calls an agent. They are opposites.

I already said, club to player sure, it's business. But the silly little twat has washed his laundry in public. If the club has disrespected him in some way then sure as hell he's disrespected the fans. Whatever the grubby bastards like Abramovich or the Arabs or Kroenke or Murdoch or Blatter or any of the pigs gorging themselves on football wants the the game to be (100% money focused for sure) football isn't there yet. There is still the fanbase, the tribe, the loyalty, the history. Maybe meaningless to those who view everything in terms of cash, but not meaningless to everyone full stop and not made meaningless just because a minority of pigs have the best seats.

If Sterling wants to leave then he can conduct that business in a meeting room and in private can't he? Where does a TV studio enter into that negotiation? There's a difference between negotiating a move and forcing through a move by any means, this super hyped little twat is doing the latter. He deserves precisely zero respect and zero sympathy.

Alan Davies?!


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In happier news, Marca are saying De Gea to Real is imminent. On the other hand, it is Marca. So he'll probably stay then.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I'm not comparing Alexis and Sterling at all, you are. There's no comparison to be made on any level, as footballers or men. Alexis is a winner on every level and does his talking on the pitch. Sterling is becoming one of the biggest losers in the game and in record time, and he's gone missing on the pitch and now does his talking through that sick bastard he calls an agent. They are opposites.

I already said, club to player sure, it's business. But the silly little twat has washed his laundry in public. If the club has disrespected him in some way then sure as hell he's disrespected the fans. Whatever the grubby bastards like Abramovich or the Arabs or Kroenke or Murdoch or Blatter or any of the pigs gorging themselves on football wants the the game to be (100% money focused for sure) football isn't there yet. There is still the fanbase, the tribe, the loyalty, the history. Maybe meaningless to those who view everything in terms of cash, but not meaningless to everyone full stop and not made meaningless just because a minority of pigs have the best seats.

If Sterling wants to leave then he can conduct that business in a meeting room and in private can't he? Where does a TV studio enter into that negotiation? There's a difference between negotiating a move and forcing through a move by any means, this super hyped little twat is doing the latter. He deserves precisely zero respect and zero sympathy.

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We shall revist this conversation if Sanchez ever grows disallusioned because you were saying the same thing about Theo not so long ago.

For a guy that's so critical of corporate greed and media bias, I don't know why you can't recognise a smear campaign. He's 20 years old and he's going to make mistakes but the club should know better to throw him under a bus.